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Robert in Ontario (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 29, 2026 9:11 PM
       Robert in Ontario (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 30, 2026 2:32 AM
       Robert in Ontario (by zero [IN]) Jul 30, 2026 7:23 AM
       Robert in Ontario (by WMH [NC]) Jul 30, 2026 8:21 AM
       Robert in Ontario (by plenty [MO]) Jul 30, 2026 9:11 AM
       Robert in Ontario (by zero [IN]) Jul 30, 2026 9:23 AM
       Robert in Ontario (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 30, 2026 6:48 PM
       Robert in Ontario (by zero [IN]) Jul 31, 2026 7:44 AM
       Robert in Ontario (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Aug 8, 2026 9:55 PM

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Robert in Ontario (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 29, 2026 9:11 PM
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Hello Robert in Ontario Canada.

I remember you mentioning something about doing spray foam insulation in your attic, is that right?

I was just reading on a few things about it from other people. They were saying that insurance companies will not insure homes if they are spray foamed in the attic. The thought is that it creates moisture problems and rots the wood, plus it can deteriorate any shingles much faster.

Is that true where you are?

Have you heard anything about this?

Thank you for your time. --73.19.xxx.xx




Robert in Ontario (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2026 2:32 AM
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I will skip over the positives and concentrate on the negatives of spray foam. If the contractor doing the install is the tradesman, not a new member on his crew, and he can trace back to chemicals from the manufacturer and mixes them himself: Then you stand a 85% things will turn out okay.

Otherwise the smell and toxic fumes are a killer.... the remediation cost more that rebuilding the house. --47.156.xxx.xx




Robert in Ontario (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2026 7:23 AM
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If you are planning to encapsulate the entire attic you need to remove any venting to the outside. You also need to add a vent from your HVAC unit as well as a return register.

In essence you are making the attic area climate controlled like the rest of the house.

There should be no moisture problems unless there is a leak from the outside. Because there is no heat build up there will not be damage to the shingles that happens when the attic is not vented and builds up massive heat.

Most attics that I have seen (online) with spray foam have just sprayed the attic floor, leaving good ventilation from the eave to the top of the roof.

Back in the 90's we hired a company to spray vaulted ceilings. Once the electric was all in place there were no problems or concerns.

It wasn't cost effective to do the entire house back then. I doubt it would be now either, even though spray foam does work better than fiberglass overall.

I would consider it for a new build. Renovating an old place for a rental I do not see the benefits outweighing the costs. --47.227.xx.xxx




Robert in Ontario (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2026 8:21 AM
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We had the exterior floors of our studios spray-foamed with closed-cell foam. Where we had previously multiple hunks of insulation and plywood now one relatively thin layer was there, and it also helped stabilize the entire unit.

Tenants saw an effect in that lowered draftiness.

No idea if the guy did it right. It's held up to the elements. --73.216.xxx.xxx




Robert in Ontario (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2026 9:11 AM
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Don't do that. Im old houses it's a bad idea. People do it of course. But i won't want an inspector to put that on a report for a buyer to read. Blow on insulation. --172.59.xxx.xxx




Robert in Ontario (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2026 9:23 AM
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plenty- curious as to what you mean about it being a bad idea? --47.227.xx.xxx




Robert in Ontario (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2026 6:48 PM
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Zero, I agree with Plenty. Old houses are built to breathe. The Amish actually build air boxes in their attics because they don't use HVAC. And I don't understand the idea of encapsulating the attic just to then run HVAC duct work for the same air circulation you would get for a properly vented attic, only now you are paying to heat and cool unused space. That makes no sense. The air box or cupola makes perfect sense. Older houses have high ceilings and large windows for the same reason. --73.19.xxx.xx




Robert in Ontario (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2026 7:44 AM
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Simply explaining the science around encapsulating an attic.

With a completely sealed attic you are not using much more from your HVAC as the insulation keeps the outside temperatures at bay. Mostly you just want air movement.

High ceilings helped the heat to get above the people. Another win for transoms. But then in the winter it takes more to keep the heat down where the people live. Trade off because they had mechanical ways to heat, but not cool.

I believe that large windows were more for light than temperature controls. Maybe a little one upmanship as glass was harder to get and maintain. Doing better than the Jones's and all that.

Also I do not think that old houses were built to breathe. I believe it just happened to be a bonus. A completely sealed house now can cause issues with air quality. A little make up air is for the best.

Of course this is my opinion based on blah, blah, blah. --47.227.xx.xxx




Robert in Ontario (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 8, 2026 9:55 PM
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Basically spray foamed ceiling which the stud is 3 1/4 “ thick then will vents on rafters then later install a thin layer of plywood where the attic will be isolated from attic. Spray foam had smell for about a week then went away. So the attic is isolated where the roof is breathing as from soft fits up to ridge vent. Going to monitor humidity level where if high will install vents on both sides of attic. Another option is to remove all the fiberglass insulation where often is moldy then install Roxul batt insulation in ceiling then install plywood on top then install ridgid board insulation on top then tape up all joints where 1” to 3” is available. Roxul batt is not organic where is more expensive than fiber glass insulation where fire proof and not any mold problems ever. Or keep installing Roxul in multiple layers where try for R40 or higher as attic is the greatest heat loss or heat gain. So far with spray foam never had a mold problem where spray foam is air tight. Had very good experience with Roxul batt insulation where put behind gas boilers to keep more heat into heating system. A metal roof was installed in 2005 where has ridge vent on top from the entire roof. If concerned about heat gain then order in lighter colour. Shingles absorb heat where metal roofs absorb a lot less. If concerned about resale then Roxul and ridgid board insulation is a better option. --216.110.xxx.xxx



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