eBike and lithium batts (by jonny [NY]) Apr 26, 2026 11:30 AM
eBike and lithium batts (by Richard [MI]) Apr 26, 2026 11:50 AM
eBike and lithium batts (by NE [PA]) Apr 26, 2026 12:16 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by WMH [NC]) Apr 26, 2026 12:29 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by Jason [VA]) Apr 26, 2026 12:36 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by JS [CA]) Apr 26, 2026 4:19 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by DJ [VA]) Apr 26, 2026 4:36 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 26, 2026 7:37 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by An observer [CA]) Apr 26, 2026 8:26 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by Small potatoes [NY]) Apr 27, 2026 12:40 AM
eBike and lithium batts (by jonny [NY]) Apr 27, 2026 12:36 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by jonny [NY]) Apr 27, 2026 12:37 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by zero [IN]) Apr 27, 2026 1:07 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by jonny [NY]) Apr 27, 2026 1:41 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by zero [IN]) Apr 27, 2026 5:08 PM
eBike and lithium batts (by Robert J [CA]) Apr 30, 2026 5:53 PM
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eBike and lithium batts (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2026 11:30 AM Message:
Does anyone have any clauses in their leases about eBikes and lithium batteries (storage of, charging, etc) to not be either on the premises at all or in their apartment, hallways, basements, etc?
I'm updating my lease to include this and I just said "not allowed" but I don't know if anyone has any special wording they use or any further thoughts of them?
--47.231.xx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2026 11:50 AM Message:
Do you really think owners of these are going to keep them off your property? More likely they will put them in their living rooms no matter what you say. They will say they are worried someone will take it if they leave it outside or that the weather will damage it. Any excuse to do as they please and too bad for you. If you enforce it, you might need to check every day to see if they comply. It's likely a losing effort.
So how do you/we protect our places from the damage these could cause? I'm NOT going to go to the expense of building covered secure parking for them and even if I did, they would likely just put the thing in their living room anyway. --24.180.xx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2026 12:16 PM Message:
I don’t care about this at all. --24.152.xxx.xx |
eBike and lithium batts (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2026 12:29 PM Message:
I have an ebike. Not thrilled about the press these generate when one fails because I am a paranoid worrywort, but there are millions and millions of ebikes and scooters out there. All over the world. Yes, when a battery fails it's super scary but c'mon.
If you won't allow these, you must expect some percentage of people - growing percentage - to be unable to rent from you. --73.216.xxx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2026 12:36 PM Message:
Just keep your premiums up to date --129.222.x.xx |
eBike and lithium batts (by JS [CA]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2026 4:19 PM Message:
I don’t make an issue of it as trying to enforce something that I can’t possibly see or verify is futile. There is a section in my lease that goes often lithium ion battery safety. --162.204.xxx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2026 4:36 PM Message:
I agree with WMH - you'd be limiting your tenant pool.
The closest thing I have is:
Storage. No goods or materials of any kind or description, which would increase fire risk, shall be stored on the premises.
Then at least if something goes wrong, you can say "I told you so".
--72.218.xx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2026 7:37 PM Message:
As a requirement of tenancy, each tenant must maintain a "Renters" insurance policy, naming me as the "landlord" that is covered if anyone gets hurt of in case of damage.
--47.155.xx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by An observer [CA]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2026 8:26 PM Message:
A complete ban on lithium or Li-ion batteries would be silly, since it would also prohibit wristwatches, car keys, mobile phones, notebook PCs, and many other everyday items that use them.
I think it's also unrealistic to prohibit anything that "would increase fire risk." Tenants will have more than the proverbial "pig iron ingots stored underwater," the defining example of low hazard contents in the NFPA Life Safety Code Handbook; they'll invariably bring in furniture, clothing, small appliances, portable lamps, and other items that are combustible, potential sources of ignition, or both, but are also generally accepted as safe in homes.
Indeed, I'd consider it a poor practice to include any provision in a lease that conscientious, reasonable tenants wouldn't follow. Those who actually read your proposed lease and take their responsibilities seriously will walk away, leaving you with the ones who either didn't read it or don't care what it says.
Consult a lawyer to be sure, but rather than writing specific rules--which might actually put you in a worse position, if it turns out your rules weren't adequate to prevent an incident--it might be better simply to require tenants to comply with all applicable laws, so you could treat violations as breaches of the lease without depending on official enforcement. Most communities have extensive building, fire, and electrical codes, addressing just about every hazard a fire department might care about.
I also agree with the advice to have good fire insurance and require (or at least strongly encourage) renters to have liability and personal property coverage. --76.81.xxx.xx |
eBike and lithium batts (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Apr 27, 2026 12:40 AM Message:
Jonny, search batteries in 2024 and find may 1st. I asked this Q then because a friend in fdny said ebike battery a common cause of fires in the city and they occur regularly. At one point it was laptops on planes and hover boards. I have not had tenants w ebikes and such. I do require renters insurance. --172.59.xxx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Apr 27, 2026 12:36 PM Message:
There was a fire at a high-rise in the city (12th floor) over the weekend and it was due to this exact reason. That's why I'm asking. There was a "comment" about it stating that it is against local code (or something) to have them INSIDE the apartment or building.
I'm not banning them - I'm simply looking to have some clause that indicates we are advising them that they are not to store them in their apartment or hallways, etc. I get it. I do understand that we can't control them because we do not live in their apartment, etc.
Just like the fact that a few weeks ago we had a fire inspection (mandated) at a building and as I was in one of the apartments last week doing something (unrelated) I look down and the CO detector is off the wall, sitting on the tv stand with the battery door open. I asked the tenant why that was and he said "oh, that started chirping so I took it down. It probably just needs a new battery".
Missing batteries in smoke alarms or they take them down because "when Momma cooks it goes off too much so we shoved it in a drawer" ... you can't make this stuff up.
small ... I'll look it up. I was trying to but I probably didn't go back "far" enough. Thanks --47.231.xx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Apr 27, 2026 12:37 PM Message:
There was a fire at a high-rise in the city (12th floor) over the weekend and it was due to this exact reason. That's why I'm asking. There was a "comment" about it stating that it is against local code (or something) to have them INSIDE the apartment or building.
I'm not banning them - I'm simply looking to have some clause that indicates we are advising them that they are not to store them in their apartment or hallways, etc. I get it. I do understand that we can't control them because we do not live in their apartment, etc.
Just like the fact that a few weeks ago we had a fire inspection (mandated) at a building and as I was in one of the apartments last week doing something (unrelated) I look down and the CO detector is off the wall, sitting on the tv stand with the battery door open. I asked the tenant why that was and he said "oh, that started chirping so I took it down. It probably just needs a new battery".
Missing batteries in smoke alarms or they take them down because "when Momma cooks it goes off too much so we shoved it in a drawer" ... you can't make this stuff up.
small ... I'll look it up. I was trying to but I probably didn't go back "far" enough. Thanks --47.231.xx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Apr 27, 2026 1:07 PM Message:
Walked into an apartment and saw the smoke detector was not hanging up any longer.
I asked about it and the tenant said it goes off every time I cook and the new baby gets scared.
That was my can't make this stuff up moment. --47.227.xx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Apr 27, 2026 1:41 PM Message:
OK ... I found and read that post. I know cell phones and cameras, etc may also have these batteries ... that's not necessarily what I was talking about on the "lithium batteries" - it was more about the eBike and charging them in the building.
Like I said, we can't cover everything and yes, I do have a "not storage of flammable objects, etc" clause but somehow we have to educate the tenants about it. Just like the "what not to pour down a drain or flush down a toilet" list... I mean - to most of the people it makes sense and I do understand that when you see a product (in person or on tv as an ad) and it says "safe for septic" or "safe to flush" we all cringe. The plumbers... I'm sure are grinning.
These things go on sale and we all end up with a call or text "hey... toilet won't flush any longer" and bam... here are the wipes that are on sale this past month.
I was just looking to see if anyone has anything in their lease as a clause that seems to work other than just saying "no - these are not allowed".
I do understand that people tend to steal them if they are on a porch or wherever not tied down somewhere but at the same time... why would you store it inside your house? I've even seen the small motor bikes (yes, gas operated) in a hallway or an apartment and I'm like WTH ... get that outside! --47.231.xx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Apr 27, 2026 5:08 PM Message:
Years ago I saw a guy put a 2x10 on the porch as a ramp and drive his moped up there and into the apartment.
I approached him and said that was not allowed. He actually said to me that he had too much money tied up in the bike to leave it sit outside.
I mentioned something about having more money tied up in the property. Then told him the lease clearly stated no gasoline allowed inside the apartment. He said he wasn't aware of that to which I reminded him he was not on the lease.
They were asked to leave shortly thereafter by court order. --47.227.xx.xxx |
eBike and lithium batts (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Apr 30, 2026 5:53 PM Message:
As a requirement of tenancy, each tenant must maintain a "Renters" insurance policy, naming me as the "landlord" that is covered if anyone gets hurt of in case of damage. --47.155.xx.xxx |
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