Dilemma (by AL [NC]) Feb 4, 2026 11:47 AM
Dilemma (by Jason [VA]) Feb 4, 2026 11:53 AM
Dilemma (by GKARL [PA]) Feb 4, 2026 12:09 PM
Dilemma (by NE [PA]) Feb 4, 2026 12:43 PM
Dilemma (by Busy [WI]) Feb 4, 2026 12:46 PM
Dilemma (by AL [NC]) Feb 4, 2026 1:08 PM
Dilemma (by AL [NC]) Feb 4, 2026 1:08 PM
Dilemma (by Busy [WI]) Feb 4, 2026 2:33 PM
Dilemma (by plenty [MO]) Feb 4, 2026 2:36 PM
Dilemma (by Dodge [PA]) Feb 4, 2026 5:34 PM
Dilemma (by AL [NC]) Feb 4, 2026 6:09 PM
Dilemma (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Feb 4, 2026 6:51 PM
Dilemma (by 6x6 [TN]) Feb 4, 2026 6:57 PM
Dilemma (by Tim [CA]) Feb 4, 2026 9:36 PM
Dilemma (by MikeA [TX]) Feb 4, 2026 9:43 PM
Dilemma (by AL [NC]) Feb 4, 2026 11:09 PM
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Dilemma (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 5, 2026 7:00 AM
Dilemma (by zero [IN]) Feb 5, 2026 9:36 AM
Dilemma (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Feb 5, 2026 10:06 AM
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Dilemma (by AL [NC]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 11:47 AM Message:
Hello! In my STR, I negotiated a reduction in price with the guest because she said she drove a truck that only got 15 mpg and the unit is further than she wanted. I agreed to the reduction and completed the lease with the negotiated amount for 3 mo. stay. We spoke today and she said she traded in the truck for a sedan/hybrid two weeks ago and gets better mileage. I feel now she should pay the original rent since the reason for the deduction is gone. My expenses remain the same. She moves in tomorrow.
My plan is to ask for the increase. If she doesn't agree, refund her all her money.
What say you? Thanks --65.191.xx.xxx |
Dilemma (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 11:53 AM Message:
What they drive is their problem, not yours. They’ve already manipulated you and will continue to do so. Let them know the rent is your original price --172.56.x.xx |
Dilemma (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 12:09 PM Message:
Her choice of vehicle has nothing to do with the rent. I wouldn't have agreed with a reduction in the first place. How is it that your discussion with her would even revolve around her car? That's a problem in and of itself.
Since you agreed to the reduction, I'd stick with it but alter your stance going forward.
--23.28.xx.xx |
Dilemma (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 12:43 PM Message:
If she didn’t move in yet, yes original amount. Don’t do this again. Come back in a few months for eviction advice. --174.249.xx.xxx |
Dilemma (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 12:46 PM Message:
Did it take a long time to find a tenant? Is it hard to keep tenants because of the long drive? If so, maybe the lowered price is a better price point for a property with a bit of a trek to jobs and the grocery store. Tenant bought a better vehicle for the trek, but of course, tenant had to lay out cash for that. Tenant clearly likes this place, that they’d upgrade vehicle to accommodate the drive. But, that upgrade came at a cost to tenant too, and tenant likely figured that reduction in rent when calculating if they could upgrade.
You gave your word, I would not be inclined to go back on that. To my way of thinking, tenant got a rent reduction based on the distance to conveniences, necessities. If gobs of good potential tenants are waiting to rent from you, increase more next year. If there aren’t a slew of good prospective tenants about, recognize you have someone who makes good choices. That is valuable too. I , personally, like long term tenants who take care of the place and don’t cause trouble with neighbors. I could see my best tenants doing as this tenant did. --172.59.xx.xxx |
Dilemma (by AL [NC]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 1:08 PM Message:
Busy, it is a short term rental (STR). She hasn’t moved in. No increase; no move in. This is not in a rural area. We have amenities close by. I can rent quite easily. If it were not for the change in vehicles, I would have no issues. She has a better mileage vehicle, hence, the reduction is null/void. I gave my word per a circumstance only. Thanks, keep the advice coming. --174.216.x.xx |
Dilemma (by AL [NC]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 1:08 PM Message:
Busy, it is a short term rental (STR). She hasn’t moved in. No increase; no move in. This is not in a rural area. We have amenities close by. I can rent quite easily. If it were not for the change in vehicles, I would have no issues. She has a better mileage vehicle, hence, the reduction is null/void. I gave my word per a circumstance only. Thanks, keep the advice coming. --174.216.x.xx |
Dilemma (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 2:33 PM Message:
There’s your answer! Well, except if all those things are in place, ya probably want to ask yourself why you budged on the price in the first place. I know, I know, I’ve given in on things when I maybe should have held steady. Getting better at that. Recently declined a couple of tenant/applicant requests. Glad I did too.
--172.59.xx.xxx |
Dilemma (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 2:36 PM Message:
Agree. Why did she say anything? She is trying to pull a fast one. No truck no discount. I'm guessing she has both a car abd a truck. --172.59.xxx.xxx |
Dilemma (by Dodge [PA]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 5:34 PM Message:
I'm wondering if she ever had a truck? Interesting negotiations. What's the lease say?
--174.220.xx.xxx |
Dilemma (by AL [NC]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 6:09 PM Message:
The lease is based on the negotiated amount. No mention of it being due to her truck. However, the texts prior include her request and my acknowledgement due to the large truck/18 mpg. --65.191.xx.xxx |
Dilemma (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 6:51 PM Message:
Pick up trucks have increase in size and weight where a larger frontal area is less aerodynamic. Pickup trucks are exempt from fuel efficiency standards where other vehicles must meet those standards. Today when went shopping seen a pick up with wheels sticking out from fenders where that increases fuel consumption at highway speeds. In the midsize there is limit on fuel efficiency where the best was a Tacoma. Outside of North America Toyota makes a Hilux with a diesel engine where revs less along will use 7 liters of fuel for every 100km. At best use 9 liters per 100 km. When the price of gasoline increases those fuel inefficient vehicles can be bought for a low price. In EU countries a full size Us pick up truck is very rare along parking spaces a smaller. If had the funds would buy a EV where would use as a daily driver then only use pick up truck when required. At lease with house and apartment buildings was able to reduce natural gas consumption by adding more insulation along with high efficiency gas boilers and a indirect hot water tank. I did spend money where must get back every day of the year. Spray foaming the entire attic can see the improvement. Unlike vehicles a well insulated building the HVAC equipment will last longer as less wear and tear. --216.110.xxx.xxx |
Dilemma (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 6:57 PM Message:
You got suckered. --73.19.xxx.xx |
Dilemma (by Tim [CA]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 9:36 PM Message:
I agree; you got suckered. Their stupidity is their problem - don't make it your problem. --98.255.xx.xx |
Dilemma (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 9:43 PM Message:
"I agreed to the reduction and completed the lease with the negotiated amount for 3 mo"
So, are you a man of your word or not?
Even if you do not uphold your words, you signed a lease. That is a legally binding document with the terms spelled out. You cannot just back out of those terms until the lease term (3 months) is up without risk of a legal dispute. You will lose if you go in front of a judge. If that happens you will not only lose the disputed amount, but you will likely have to pay damages for not letting her move in and legal fees to the aggrieved party. --99.64.xx.xx |
Dilemma (by AL [NC]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 11:09 PM Message:
Mike, I also believed the info about the negotiation was a condition that led the final lease amount. Yes, I am a man of my word. Up until it was disclosed that the truck was traded in for a hybrid that gave better mileage, then the condition for the reduction was no longer needed. What about their word( I relied on their word and entered into said contract. They did not hold up to their part. Contracts and conditions are not unilateral. The but for rule applies. --174.216.x.xxx |
Dilemma (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2026 12:39 AM Message:
As my mama used to say, if your friend jumped off a bridge would you do the same? Just because someone else does something doesn't make it right, safe, or good. But deep down you know that.
If you weren't happy with the original reduction, you should have simply said no. Once you said yes through the execution of the contract it is done plain and simple. Doesn't matter if you want to increase your profit after the legal agreement was reached (this is exactly the brush the opposing lawyer will use as he's calling you a greedy landlord in front of the judge), you have a legal contact you must follow or face the consequences.
The bottom line the contract is all that matters at this point. It didn't stipulate that the rate would revert to the original amount quoted if they got a better mileage vehicle.
I would write this one off as a relatively cheap lesson in negotiations and manipulation you will face as a landlord. Don't ever let an applicant or tenant drama affect a good sound business decision. It needs to be an unemotional, logic based, decision based on your side of the equation. If it works for you, great. If it doesn't, NO can be a full response and you don't proceed to the legal contract. Let your yes be yes and your no be no and don't flip flop based on their drama, or it becomes your drama. That's how you maintain your integrity in this business. --99.64.xx.xx |
Dilemma (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2026 6:10 AM Message:
I would stick to what I agreed to but I would be a little butt hurt about it. --65.188.xxx.xxx |
Dilemma (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2026 7:00 AM Message:
Dilemma (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2026 7:00 AM Message:
What I am hearing you say in between words, that your STR is being used more like an MTR. Your tenant might be showing you a second lesson, the first lesson has been already discussed in detail. --173.188.xx.xxx |
Dilemma (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2026 9:36 AM Message:
In three months the rent goes back to where you started.
Unless your lease allows them to continue on with the same price point.
You helped someone get a newer vehicle.
I have rented places out and at signing the new tenant explained that I was so much cheaper than the other places they looked at.
Ouch.
But a deal is a deal. --47.227.xx.xxx |
Dilemma (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2026 10:06 AM Message:
[[[[[[[...... What about their word( I relied on their word and entered into said contract. .....]]]]]
Well, there is your problem right there. All you are losing (so far) is a little bit of rent reduction for three months, A very cheap lesson to learn.
Never, never, not ever, should you ever believe anything an applicant tells you until after you have verified it independently. Learn this lesson if you want to survive: all tenants lie. In 35 years of landlording I have had exactly one (one!) tenant who never lied to me about anything.
When people are trying to get something expensive and valuable from you, they are at their most charming and they lie to hide any of their own shortcomings and they lie in order to get a better deal. Be suspicious of anything an applicant tells you, no matter how charming they are. --76.178.xxx.xxx |
Dilemma (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2026 10:22 AM Message:
This was a good lesson and worth the price of admission.
In observation between animals and humans you learn which one tells the truth. --73.19.xxx.xx |
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