18 Year Cycle (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 4, 2026 7:17 AM
18 Year Cycle (by zero [IN]) Feb 4, 2026 7:54 AM
18 Year Cycle (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 4, 2026 8:03 AM
18 Year Cycle (by Ken [NY]) Feb 4, 2026 8:42 AM
18 Year Cycle (by 6x6 [TN]) Feb 4, 2026 7:00 PM
18 Year Cycle (by Ken [NY]) Feb 4, 2026 8:49 PM
18 Year Cycle (by 6x6 [TN]) Feb 4, 2026 9:13 PM
18 Year Cycle (by DnP [PA]) Feb 4, 2026 9:27 PM
18 Year Cycle (by Ken [NY]) Feb 4, 2026 9:41 PM
18 Year Cycle (by DnP [PA]) Feb 4, 2026 10:05 PM
18 Year Cycle (by Bonanza [NC]) Feb 5, 2026 6:15 AM
18 Year Cycle (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 5, 2026 6:52 AM
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18 Year Cycle (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 7:17 AM Message:
For those of you who know and follow the 18-year real estate cycle, we are at year 18. What does that mean? Why does it matter.
Last week I asked what is your game plan in 2026. For many if not most of those who responded, they are waiting for the market to correct itself so they can buy right. I sure wish I could take my stopwatch out and do exact market timing.
18 years ago it was 2008. It was a rough ride but we did 16 transactions that year. Indeed, it wasn't pleasant at all. No one was sure how low things would go and if all the money would suddenly dry up. Would it have been foolish for me to wait until the prices dropped to the 1990 levels that I first learned when I started out in 1989? I would not have picked up a single place at all. Looking back at those 2008 purchases, they were solid buys with lots of value add opportunities.
So let fast forward to 2026. If you are simply waiting the market out instead of using your tools to make money in, you are content being a one trick pony. That isn't to say tools like BRRRR aren't valid, but they only work at certain times and better in certain markets. You can wait or you can use another tool take works best in downward markets - like master leasing or options. This will require you to invest in yourself first. A master lease requires little money and even less risk making it ideal for a downward facing market (You know the one you have been waiting on to act)
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Do I have faith that everyone will invest in themselves. There will be those out there who will refuse to adopt to change and wait for the good ol' day's prices to come back. Sorry inflation happened and I can't turn back the clock.
There will be others who will claim that there is an unfair technology advantage.......and indeed there is. Some of you will elect not to use other tools like AI. Truth is you will not have to; you will only need to connivence all your competitors looking for your deal not to use it. That way the playing field is level. The reality is it doesn't matter how much experience you have if you don't have the tools. In my rural area of the US there are 9th graders building battle bots. I don't remember seeing that in that 1970's show.
So what are you to do other than bulk up on transaction tools? Well dollar cost averaging the marketplace allows you to make money in any market anywhere in the real estate cycle. This does however require discipline in finding off market sellers. This is code for bulk up your marketing and ensuring your plenty of capital available.
Ray really didn't make any of these rules. Ray didn't create any of these tools, and Ray can't force anyone to do anything that they don't want to. You can complain about the way things are, or you can make a plan to act on the way things are. Things like the progressive wave that is slowly moving across the map isn't going to suddenly stop.
Seize today!
--173.188.xx.xxx |
18 Year Cycle (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 7:54 AM Message:
Never knew or followed an 18 year cycle, but it makes sense.
I have only tried a couple of times to buy from someone with seller financing or an option. The seller was not interested.
As a matter of fact the last one I tried came down on price, which was still way over the top, and it has now been sitting idle on the MLS.
Maybe I should contact her again and see if she has any renewed interest in seller financing? --47.227.xx.xxx |
18 Year Cycle (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 8:03 AM Message:
Real estate is not just a price game at all. When prices are thru the roof, you will make an equal amount of money with terms and terms are less threatening. You don't come off as stealing from anyone.
Go ahead and offer them, $1,000,000 for the place, with $100/month payments. Does that cash flow? That is an ideal owner finance situation that will probably get approved. But a master lease would be an easy compromise for a property that isn't moving on the MLS. Why though wait for a property to go on the MLS? Use AI to give you a list of folks who moved out of the area. ReLos are awesome targets for master leasing
--173.188.xx.xxx |
18 Year Cycle (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 8:42 AM Message:
I will keep doing flips, if the market drops it will be fine with me. i do ok flipping in downturns as i am the only guy buying and when i sell buyers prefer a vacant rehabbed place so my places go fast. --38.248.xx.xxx |
18 Year Cycle (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 7:00 PM Message:
Ken, I didn't think you did full rehabs for most of them? --73.19.xxx.xx |
18 Year Cycle (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 8:49 PM Message:
6x6 my favorite is buy mow lawn and clean it out and list on MLS in 7 days and clear about 15k. I dont do full gut jobs but have done fairly regularly full kitchens, full bathrooms, 3 bedrooms and a living romm full of sheetrock etc.problem is the houses i do sell around 150k and simply cant do everything and make a buck. go to realtor.com rotterdam ny and look up1332 Floral ave,that should close soon,we did everything on interior except 2 bedrooms of sheetrock and we are installing a new septic tank and system. it is only about 750 sq ft but a nice neighborhood. look at that and that is basically what we do. --159.89.xx.xxx |
18 Year Cycle (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 9:13 PM Message:
Thank you, Ken. That looks really nice and looks fully rehabbed. --73.19.xxx.xx |
18 Year Cycle (by DnP [PA]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 9:27 PM Message:
Nice work Ken. How much does a typical renovation like that cost? --172.56.xxx.xxx |
18 Year Cycle (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 9:41 PM Message:
DnP- I havent run the numbers but about $40000, keep in mind i do none of the work, my main guy who actually works for my business partner and i get to take him when my partner doesnt need him is totally on the books and cost me $38 an hour which i consider a bargain.In this case we gutted the interior,did not have to replace windows but did repair a few,new electric and plumbing,new walls,trim,kitchen and bath but again only 750 sq ft.I did not have to replace,breaker box,furnace or water main to street,siding or roof.In addition a septic is costing me just under $12000.I bought it for 45k and got 176k so i have room to make a buck on it.couple days mowing lawn and 2 dumpsters of trash cleaning up lawn,large tree stump cost $500 to remove.building permit was $880 and electric permit was $200 --159.89.xx.xxx |
18 Year Cycle (by DnP [PA]) Posted on: Feb 4, 2026 10:05 PM Message:
Thanks for the info.
Good job ! Nice house too. --172.56.xxx.xxx |
18 Year Cycle (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2026 6:15 AM Message:
That looks great Ken! Nice job! --65.188.xxx.xxx |
18 Year Cycle (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2026 6:52 AM Message:
There are charts out there that allow you plot future steps to make depending on what year you are at within the long-range path. All you need to do is to pick your tool of choice. --173.188.xx.xxx |
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