Your Income Expense ratio (by Bonanza [NC]) Nov 25, 2025 8:53 PM
Your Income Expense ratio (by Robert J [CA]) Nov 25, 2025 9:38 PM
Your Income Expense ratio (by GKARL [PA]) Nov 25, 2025 11:32 PM
Your Income Expense ratio (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Nov 26, 2025 7:41 AM
Your Income Expense ratio (by plenty [MO]) Nov 26, 2025 8:03 AM
Your Income Expense ratio (by 6x6 [TN]) Nov 26, 2025 8:12 AM
Your Income Expense ratio (by Robin [WI]) Nov 26, 2025 8:52 AM
Your Income Expense ratio (by WMH [NC]) Nov 26, 2025 9:18 AM
Your Income Expense ratio (by plenty [MO]) Nov 26, 2025 12:40 PM
Your Income Expense ratio (by Robert J [CA]) Nov 26, 2025 5:52 PM
Your Income Expense ratio (by Bonanza [NC]) Nov 26, 2025 5:59 PM
Your Income Expense ratio (by zero [IN]) Nov 27, 2025 9:34 AM
Your Income Expense ratio (by Bonanza [NC]) Nov 27, 2025 9:58 AM
Your Income Expense ratio (by zero [IN]) Nov 27, 2025 11:13 AM
Your Income Expense ratio (by zero [IN]) Nov 29, 2025 7:42 AM
Your Income Expense ratio (by Ned [AL]) Nov 29, 2025 5:49 PM
Your Income Expense ratio (by Jim [OH]) Nov 30, 2025 10:51 AM
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Your Income Expense ratio (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2025 8:53 PM Message:
If you are using Quickbooks or something similar, run a profit / loss or an income / expense report and tell us what your over head is.
I just ran one to see how things were looking for the year.
42% expenses
58% income
--65.188.xxx.xxx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2025 9:38 PM Message:
I'm in Los Angeles, not allowed to make money. Have to support City big wigs mistresses, 3rd car and their children's college fund. Since February 01, 2020 thru today, around 80% of the time I was NOT ALLOWED TO EVICT ANYONE FOR NON-PAYMENT OF RENT. Rich, poor or Millionaire, it's all the same.
Expenses 60%
Income 40%
Running at a 20% loss. And this is with all of my mortgage paid off! --47.143.xx.xx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2025 11:32 PM Message:
I about the same as Bonanza. Robert, I would get out of California. --23.28.xx.xx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2025 7:41 AM Message:
Un single families that is right.
On Multis, it depends if the units are metered separately or not. I have a duplex where they are not and expenses are a whopping 61%, but I bought it with owner financing at less than $30,000 a unit.
On multis with their own meters, I have some at 32%, but those same units are about $80,000-120,000 a unit.
a good rule of thumb on commercial is about 40% expenses --174.131.xxx.xx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2025 8:03 AM Message:
Quickbooks. . Well that's my sin. I enter information but I stopped tracking the loans cause that seemed like double work. Anyways I'll run the report and see what it says. --172.59.xxx.xx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2025 8:12 AM Message:
Your Income Expense ratio (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2025 8:52 AM Message:
My numbers are similar: 40% expenses, 60% profit.
Except this year, where we had
--three roof replacements
--a termite-riddled garage
--a rotted-out bathroom floor
--five flooded basements
--two collapsed basement walls.
Think we could sell a house before Dec. 31st to offset the losses?? --104.230.xxx.xxx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2025 9:18 AM Message:
My reports are set up as Schedule Es per property so it would take a while to figure overall. --72.82.xx.xx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2025 12:40 PM Message:
Wow. Mine are almost exactly like yours Bonanza. Finding that interesting. --172.59.xxx.xxx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2025 5:52 PM Message:
I want out of California. My 20 unit was up for sale. The buyer sent me a Document that needed to be opened. If I opened it up on line, he could put a lien on the property and I could not sell it to anyone else. So after discussion he refused to send my his written offer. Just a gangster.
Then another agent said he had an investor that sold some property and would make me a cash offer. I asked for PROOF OF FUNDS. My building was over $2M. He could not provide me with that. Then it changed it was going to be a loan.
Then the third buyer sent housing to stiff me with many violations. I had just passed a Code Enforcement inspection. So he was playing tricks. Wanted me lower the price.
So I paid my 20 tenants off, instead of evictions, fixing the place up and re-renting for market. All of a sudden a 3.6M property was worth 7M. A previous person who made crazy offer then offered me 5M. I turned him down and sold it with seller financing. Good income now... --47.143.xx.xx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2025 5:59 PM Message:
Yes I just did it for the LLC so all properties are together. Some cashflow better than others, some are free and clear, etc. I just wanted to see a rough idea of how things were looking and then I wanted to know ya'lls numbers to see if I was in the ball park for things.
Obviously if you have major repairs - roof or HVAC it will skew the numbers. And if you have 5 doors vs 50 doors the numbers could be skewed by major things.
I guess it doesn't really mean anything but I was curious so I asked. i appreciate ya'll sharing.
--65.188.xxx.xxx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2025 9:34 AM Message:
Well I have all my stuff tied together which includes things like my truck payment, cell phone, internet, etc. I also buy a lot of stuff that I keep in inventory for future work.
That being said my income shows as 42%. This is down from what I had before and also includes a couple expensive rehabs.
So I guess I show at:
58% expenses
42% income
I will go in and see about moving some of the things that skew the numbers but these are probably the final results, which kind of stink. Also it does not include all of my November rents yet either.
Interesting and eye opening for sure. --71.46.xxx.xx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2025 9:58 AM Message:
I think that is a good thing. It means you are maximizing your tax advantages. --65.188.xxx.xxx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2025 11:13 AM Message:
Explain it that way to my wife next time we see you. --71.46.xxx.xx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Nov 29, 2025 7:42 AM Message:
Well I backed out the vehicle costs and the general purchases that I made for items I keep as back ups. Then I added the small amount I have gotten from collections.
I also noticed that I was gathering all of the expenses for my PR, rather than just the amount for the office area. It is broken down for the tax guy but I grabbed it all which isn't correct either.
Didn't make as big of a hit as I had expected but now my expenses and income are at:
52.05% income
47.95% expenses
Even putting the vehicle and general expenses back in, which I mean probably should stay in there, my totals now are at:
45.42% income
54.58% expenses
Remember that I am doing all of this on a spreadsheet so I need to tweak how I am gathering the info. Thanks for bringing this up. It has been an eye opener for sure. --71.46.xxx.xx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by Ned [AL]) Posted on: Nov 29, 2025 5:49 PM Message:
I've always used a rule of thumb for my 2br 1ba little houses... If no mortgage, I can plan to keep about 50% on average. --199.36.xxx.xxx |
Your Income Expense ratio (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Nov 30, 2025 10:51 AM Message:
What I experience and what can be reported may perhaps be "slightly" different. I ain't sayin. --184.57.xxx.xxx |
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