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Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Aug 20, 2025 4:25 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by RR78 [VA]) Aug 20, 2025 4:41 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Aug 20, 2025 5:15 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by T [IN]) Aug 20, 2025 5:32 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by Steve [MA]) Aug 20, 2025 5:36 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by Tony [NJ]) Aug 20, 2025 5:49 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by MikeA [TX]) Aug 20, 2025 7:28 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Aug 20, 2025 8:13 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Aug 20, 2025 8:26 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Aug 21, 2025 6:45 AM
       Vote for Toilets (by plenty [MO]) Aug 21, 2025 7:20 AM
       Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Aug 21, 2025 11:45 AM
       Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Aug 21, 2025 11:56 AM
       Vote for Toilets (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Aug 21, 2025 11:59 AM
       Vote for Toilets (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Aug 21, 2025 12:46 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Aug 21, 2025 3:52 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Aug 21, 2025 3:52 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Aug 21, 2025 5:01 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by zero [IN]) Aug 22, 2025 7:30 AM
       Vote for Toilets (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Aug 22, 2025 11:12 AM
       Vote for Toilets (by zero [IN]) Aug 22, 2025 5:35 PM
       Vote for Toilets (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 25, 2025 12:54 AM
       Vote for Toilets (by JS [CA]) Aug 28, 2025 10:07 AM


Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2025 4:25 PM
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I always come here to get input before making certain purchases. And now we need to replace another toilet.

Based on recommendations on this forum, we've selected and replaced three toilets between about 2017 and 2019 at different properties with the AquaSource Henshaw toilet (elongated chair height). They're all still operating perfectly, but those toilets are no longer being produced.

So among the other ones that have been recommended on this site, I'm looking at: Kohler Cimarron, American Standard Cadet, and American Standard Champion (all in elongated chair height).

Does anyone have pro's or con's about any of the above models? (Once we settle on a model again, we'll probably stick with it everywhere.)

Lowe's currently has $50 off on American Standard Champion ($199) HD has $30 off on Kohler Cimarron ($239). HD also has two different American Standard Cadet models at regular prices of $199 and $249. These are all elongated chair height toilets. (I see that several other Kohler Cimarron models have varying prices that go as high as the $400's.)

There are also a few other elongated chair height American Standard & Kohler models with prices just a little higher or a little lower, but I am currently looking at the models that were recommended on this forum.

I am putting a little extra thought into this so we can end up with just one toilet model to always use from now on. What toilets do you prefer? How would you choose from above? Thanks. --71.246.xxx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2025 4:41 PM
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Years with the Cadet 3 or Cadet Pro and never any problems. This was the one we picked years ago for all rentals.

A strong flush and never a reason to even try the Champion. And easier to find 3" flappers.

Sometimes we need a 10" or once a 14" rough-in toilet. The bowl is the same as with the Cadet 3; the tank is the only thing that is different in size. --73.251.xx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2025 5:15 PM
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Having a toilet with no flapper where bucket tilts then water goes down where with tenants has to idiot proof. Niagara flapper less used in apartment buildings where had a few repairs which required adjustment. Each province or state has a distributor. A lot of large apartment complexes here may buy a hundred toilets where over time they get the money back as lower water and sewage charges are reduced. Not the most stylist toilet where functions. You Tube has reviews on toilets where look which is best. --216.110.xxx.xxx




Vote for Toilets (by T [IN]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2025 5:32 PM
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Niagara flapperless toilet. 1.2 gal/flush, not the newer .8 model.... Since I have started to switch over, lower water bills and no calls for flapper issues --170.203.xxx.xxx




Vote for Toilets (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2025 5:36 PM
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I've been very satisfied with the American Standard Cadet 3 or Cadet Pro with the elongated bowl & higher seat height.

--71.174.xx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2025 5:49 PM
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Kohler wentworth is my absolute favorite. Recommended to me by more than 1 plumber --76.117.xxx.xxx




Vote for Toilets (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2025 7:28 PM
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American Standard is the brand.

I bought the Lowes house brand, Aqua Source elongated chair height, two weeks ago for one I'm selling. While the ceramics were good, they were thinner than what I'm used so they will break easier if mishandled. The main problem though, was the tank bolts and flange bolts. Those were a joke, pot metal bolts with brass plate over it. I'm betting those will have to be replaced in 3-4 years when they corrode. Based on this, I wouldn't recommend Aqua Source. --209.205.xxx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2025 8:13 PM
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Thanks for that tip, Mike. We'll watch for those issues with the three which were installed a few years ago. --71.246.xxx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2025 8:26 PM
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I'm leaning toward the American Standard Cadet 3 or Cadet Pro.

The Niagara sounds very interesting but the models I can see have the a flush mechanism button on top of the tank, which I definitely don't want for tenants, or even for my own family - just more crevices to try to clean. There may also be fewer options for finding parts if they are ever needed. But flapperless is intriguing.

So Ace Hardware lists a "Cadet 3" for 199.99. When I enter the # from Ace at Home Depot, it lists it only as Cadet, and not as Cadet 3. It also seems that there are several "Cadet 3" models with a wide variety of prices. I'll check into this more tomorrow.

Thanks for all the info. --71.246.xxx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2025 6:45 AM
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You are doing it right by picking one and sticking with it. Build up a small amount f replacement parts on that one choice. You are well on your way of implementing "systems" --98.17.xx.xxx




Vote for Toilets (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2025 7:20 AM
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Most of our toilet have been Cimarron or Cadet installed years ago, still going strong. --172.59.xxx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2025 11:45 AM
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Thanks, Ray-N-Pa! I thought I was doing that with the AquaSource Henshaw until they discontinued it. I hope it works this time! --71.246.xxx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2025 11:56 AM
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Plenty, I'm glad to hear that both of these models have been dependable for you!

If you need to replace another one, would you choose the Cimarron or the Cadet? Or would you just roll the dice?

Also, there are a few different models of the "Cimarron" at different price points, of the "Cadet" (with no #3 behind it) at different price points, and of the "Cadet 3" at different price points - a bit of a conundrum... --71.246.xxx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2025 11:59 AM
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Niagara flapper less toilets can buy parts on Amazon where buy a couple water valves which never had one fail. The bucket never wears out Simple design unless a tenant breaks. Can buy a spare bucket assembly. Can buy one where try out to see how it works. The toilet was designed in Canada where making here is too expensive. As the bucket does not contact walls no tanks sweats. Had all 39 rental units where never had the problems with flappers.. Only problem is a tenant blocked toilet were bought a Ridgid plumbers grade toilet snake at HD. In rentals used one brand of faucets where keep spare parts then if one broke was able to fix. Used ceramic disk single faucets and single disk for bathtubs where it was rare to fix. One time took out cartridge where cleaned then put back together. Running rentals is to eliminate calls on weekends. Used Grade 1 and Grade 2 deadbolt locks where a passage lock where no one was ever locked out. --216.110.xxx.xxx




Vote for Toilets (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2025 12:46 PM
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Gerber Viper series --64.246.xxx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2025 3:52 PM
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Thank you, mapleaf18. There are several different models of the Gerber Viper at different price points. Which is the one you like?

(Niagara also sounds good - except for the flush mechanism button on the top of the toilet tank. That's a deal breaker for me.) --71.246.xxx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Chris [VA]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2025 3:52 PM
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Thank you, mapleaf18. There are several different models of the Gerber Viper at different price points. Which is the one you like?

(Niagara also sounds good - except for the flush mechanism button on the top of the toilet tank. That's a deal breaker for me.) --71.246.xxx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2025 5:01 PM
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Niagara flapper less makes a model with ultra low flush with buttons on top where the model with bucket has handle that can mounted on both sides where check on You Tube where you see how it works and flush mechanism in tank. --216.110.xxx.xxx




Vote for Toilets (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2025 7:30 AM
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A few years ago I looked into the Niagara toilets.

From what I read the newer versions are not as reliable. The buckets give out to the chemicals in city water.

Never used one myself, just going by what I read at the time.

Apartment I am in right now had a Project Source (Lowes generic) stool with a 3" flapper installed before last tenant moved in. Over 8 years ago and all is fine.

Well the seat needs replaced but that is from the heavy smoking and never cleaning anything. --107.147.xx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2025 11:12 AM
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Minimum is 1000g per flush where with any ultra low flush toilet that has to be pressure flush. Noisy flush which works. Have used pressure flush toilets where filled warranty then received notice that pressure flush tank could explode where company sent me a new tank. For apartment buildings a upfront cost where over time have reduce every cubic meter of water consumption along sewage costs. For house tenant is paying water. Those low priced toilets have poor performance where not worthwhile. --216.110.xxx.xxx




Vote for Toilets (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2025 5:35 PM
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8 years on city water and not a bit of problem. Still the same flapper as well.

Maybe I have just been lucky with my generic toilets?

I had one in my house as well, because I had good luck with them. --107.147.xx.xx




Vote for Toilets (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 25, 2025 12:54 AM
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Chris, Prospects really notice and like the 2 button flushers we install - to save the planet!

BRAD --68.45.xxx.xxx




Vote for Toilets (by JS [CA]) Posted on: Aug 28, 2025 10:07 AM
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I have many AS Cadets

I am still buying these for every new remodel --162.204.xxx.xxx





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