cash vs equity (by sam [TX]) Aug 11, 2025 4:50 PM
cash vs equity (by LisaFL [FL]) Aug 11, 2025 5:33 PM
cash vs equity (by RB [TN]) Aug 11, 2025 6:19 PM
cash vs equity (by Richard [MI]) Aug 11, 2025 6:52 PM
cash vs equity (by Robert J [CA]) Aug 11, 2025 8:55 PM
cash vs equity (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 11, 2025 9:01 PM
cash vs equity (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 11, 2025 9:05 PM
cash vs equity (by MikeA [TX]) Aug 11, 2025 10:47 PM
cash vs equity (by Joel Miller [PA]) Aug 11, 2025 11:04 PM
cash vs equity (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Aug 12, 2025 6:30 AM
cash vs equity (by zero [IN]) Aug 12, 2025 8:31 AM
cash vs equity (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Aug 12, 2025 11:01 AM
cash vs equity (by Rick [IN]) Aug 12, 2025 11:52 AM
cash vs equity (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 12, 2025 4:55 PM
cash vs equity (by JS [CA]) Aug 13, 2025 11:11 AM
cash vs equity (by sam [TX]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2025 4:50 PM Message:
I understand cash makes you rich but equity makes you wealthy. My question is how much cash do you keep in the bank for emergencies. I have about 2 months reserves compared to 3 or 4 I normally have so I am kinda concerned. I had 2 vacancies recently and had to get those properties ready to rent so I'm kinda low on cash. I still have the ability to get cash in case I am really in a bind but at this point I am I still have some for emergencies. I have never really been in this situation so I don't know if I am over reacting or maybe need to adjust my comfort level as far as my cash in reserves. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you --35.146.xx.xxx |
cash vs equity (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2025 5:33 PM Message:
Everyone has their own risk tolerance level. I keep way more cash reserves but I’m likely in a different place in life than you are. But I don’t think I ever would have been 100% comfortable with less than six months the minimum. So I get where you’re coming from. --75.89.xxx.xxx |
cash vs equity (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2025 6:19 PM Message:
Reminds me of a well written book that's hard to find.
Titled - "Were you ready when", ( fill in the blank )
Cross the bridge when ya get there.
--204.10.xxx.xx |
cash vs equity (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2025 6:52 PM Message:
Good question.
Since we are all a little bit different I think it depends on your total situation. A couple months cash is good, especially if you have the ability to quickly get more if needed. We can go to the big box stores like HD or Lowes and get pretty easy credit for materials and maybe even the labor if you use their people. Also, our regular credit cards can often handle problems with a month or more float to pay without interest. We can usually get more credit if needed.
That takes care of rental repairs and some/most rehab.
Then there is our personal lives. Health can usually be paid for in payments or maybe on the credit card. Same with cars/trucks.
If we keep expenses pretty much under control a couple months reserves is probably enough as long as we can access more if needed.
Considering the real rate of inflation, having a large amount in money market accounts or low paying interest is losing money as it becomes less valuable every day. That money needs to be carefully invested in assets that increase in value. The question is which assets and where? Fixer uppers? Flips? Stock futures trading? Crypto?
What do we do with hundreds of thousands or millions sitting around in 4 percent or less accounts when real estate prices are high? Buy nice toys? Vacation - go when I want to (like the song - thanks Bangles),set up a foundation to help others?
Decisions, decisions. --97.85.x.xx |
cash vs equity (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2025 8:55 PM Message:
You "cash" reserves are very low! Here in Los Angeles, this Crazy Sanctuary City allowed tenants not to pay rent up to 4 years. From 2/1/2020 thru 3/1/2024, a tenant could NOT be evicted for NON-Payment of their rent.
So I had to continue provide service for those choosing not to pay rent for that 4 year period. My tenants owned me from that period $630,000.
Then after the January fires. the tenants effected by fire need not pay rent from 1/10/2025 thru 7/21/2025. Another $100,000 down the drain.
Then if I charged a new tenant more than 10% over the old tenants rent, I'd be hit with a $10,000 fine, not raised to $50,000.
So I had between lawyers and fines over $1,000,000 cash outlay. And I was ordered to make unnecessary repairs. like replacing all of my roof's, another $400K.
So during the past 4-5 years, I had coming out of my pocket around $1.5M. So your formula of a few months back up would have bankrupted me.
Here Judges are corrupt, the Los Angeles City Counsel (70%) are corrupt, Housing General Manager, Mayor, Supervisors, Inspectors and other like the City Attorney are all money hungry Bas.... If not the fact I have a license to carry and carry a back belt in karate, and I' not afraid to defend myself -- I would have been crushed, smashed like a bug and died years ago.
The cost of an attorney is average $650 an hour. do the math.... --47.155.xx.xxx |
cash vs equity (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2025 9:01 PM Message:
Note to self to look up the book RB recommended. --73.19.xxx.xx |
cash vs equity (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2025 9:05 PM Message:
Need more details, RB. I can't find it on the internet search.
Year? Aurther? Number? --73.19.xxx.xx |
cash vs equity (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2025 10:47 PM Message:
Read Robin's Catastrophe post a few down and you will get a flavor of what can happen. With a major event like that though, I'm not sure you can ever have enough cash just sitting around.
I keep enough cash for one major emergency (roof, HVAC, sewer line, etc) which I figure at about $8K per event on each 5-7 houses. I should say that I pretty much self insure the small to medium stuff with the very high deductible I carry so I tend to keep extra instead of paying premiums.
I also have a good relationship with my banker so I could get a very large chunk of cash out in just a few days in an emergency. I also have some securities I could sell if I needed to. As a last resort I have a couple of credit cards with $20K limits if it really got tough. That would probably be used more for emergency materials to get repairs started. --209.205.xxx.xx |
cash vs equity (by Joel Miller [PA]) Posted on: Aug 11, 2025 11:04 PM Message:
You don't need to keep cash around if you have ready ACCESS to it via credit lines secured by the equity in your property.
Yes, cash makes you rich. But equity does not make you wealthy. Equity eventually becomes cash. Wealth comes from something other than cash, although cash may be part of the equation.
I have a whole discussion about the difference between riches and wealth in my best-selling book (which is available on the Mr. Landlord site) called "Build Real Estate Wealthy: Enjoy the Journey of Rental Property Investment." Check out Chapter Eleven "The Impact of Wealth." --184.56.xx.xxx |
cash vs equity (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2025 6:30 AM Message:
Under capitalization is the second most common reason why businesses fail. The only reason that washes out more businesses, is not having a cash flow plan.
You are correct to be worried about these two intertwined concepts. There is no one size fits all rules. some general guidance is available.
I would be much more worried about wondering if I had a profitable business model in use than if I had cash on hand. That info can be found at bizstats dot com. As Joel stated access to capital is what is important --67.140.xx.xxx |
cash vs equity (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2025 8:31 AM Message:
I need to look into getting a couple HELOC's again.
We try to keep cash on hand, more than enough for emergencies (except maybe in Robin's case).
But then I will go buy a place and rehab it. The money is gone and the tensions rise because we do not have that cushion.
Still have the biz AMEX, our personal CC and another visa from our credit union that we use once per year to keep it all flowing. --107.147.xx.xx |
cash vs equity (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2025 11:01 AM Message:
At the rate that I currently spend money, I could live for over two and a half years on what is in my money market account. It is not enough money to even buy a building lot where I am located so it is hard to keep it in real estate.
I bought a house I didn't want when the covid inflation started. I got tired of watching the value of my money plummet, so I bought a house. The house has kept up with inflation, but it is extra work I didn't want. I had been getting rid of houses and had reached a nice comfortable point so not all that happy with the new house, although it has doubled in value... which is misleading, When I bought it, it was worth the value of a three bedroom house and now, even though the dollar price is higher, it is still only worth the value of a three bedroom house. If I had left that cash in the bank, it would not buy me a 1979 mobile home ina park. --76.178.xxx.xxx |
cash vs equity (by Rick [IN]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2025 11:52 AM Message:
Hhmmm... Interesting topic and answers. After a couple of decades of being a landlord, for what it is worth, my position is:
1. One year gross income in a 1yr C.C., 1 month in checking.
2. An agreement with my contractor that I can make payments.
3. I am debt free and have been for a while. Proverbs 22:7.
4. Very good credit score with easy access to credit.
5. All of my rentals and home are repair free at this time.
6. Probably most important, I have all the rentals I need to live my retirement on. --76.35.xxx.xx |
cash vs equity (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2025 4:55 PM Message:
equity only makes you wealthy if you sell more than what you bought for. --104.28.xx.xxx |
cash vs equity (by JS [CA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2025 11:11 AM Message:
This is more about your personal comfort level than anything else. I know that money is coming in every month so I could probably keep a couple of months and be okay but that’s not my comfort level. If you mean cash like in a bank I only keep as much as you. If you mean money that I can easily access then much more. I don’t work it out on a per month basis.
My risk however is greater. We have more lawsuits. A roof costs 2-3x what I see people say they are paying in other parts of the country. My labor costs are relatively high. My deductibles are high because insurance has gone crazy. So based on all that I probably keep a few years of available funds. --162.204.xxx.xxx |
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