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Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Aug 3, 2025 11:39 AM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by NE [PA]) Aug 3, 2025 12:21 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Aug 3, 2025 12:25 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Aug 3, 2025 12:25 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 3, 2025 12:52 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by WMH [NC]) Aug 3, 2025 12:58 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by zero [IN]) Aug 3, 2025 1:07 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Robert J [CA]) Aug 3, 2025 2:24 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Ken [NY]) Aug 3, 2025 2:40 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by plenty [MO]) Aug 3, 2025 3:13 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Aug 3, 2025 3:19 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by RB [TN]) Aug 3, 2025 4:12 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by plenty [MO]) Aug 3, 2025 4:33 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Aug 3, 2025 5:09 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Jim situation [CA]) Aug 3, 2025 7:25 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Aug 3, 2025 8:26 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by MikeA [TX]) Aug 3, 2025 11:53 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Aug 4, 2025 12:04 AM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Aug 4, 2025 12:04 AM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Aug 4, 2025 12:04 AM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Aug 4, 2025 6:45 AM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by tryan [MA]) Aug 4, 2025 4:40 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Mike45 [NV]) Aug 4, 2025 8:31 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Robin [WI]) Aug 4, 2025 8:49 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Robin [WI]) Aug 4, 2025 8:49 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Aug 4, 2025 9:28 PM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by don [PA]) Aug 5, 2025 12:04 AM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by RB [TN]) Aug 7, 2025 6:32 AM
       Undocumented Immigrant (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 7, 2025 10:24 AM


Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 11:39 AM
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I have always rented to US Citizen who had valid Driver's ID, Social Security Number etc. For the first time, I was approached by a small hard working family that do painting jobs for a contractor and make enough money. When asked about their IDs, they provided me the copies of their Passport (from country other than US). They do not speak English and I had their acquaintances as interpreter. The acquaintance has US IDs and is willing to be a guarantor on the lease. These applicants are illegal immigrants who do not have US documents.

Question - Is it illegal to rent to an illegal immigrant? Are there any Federal or State (of Georgia) laws that prevent from renting to an illegal immigrant? Has anyone faced this situation?

--99.98.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 12:21 PM
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Keep a spare door on hand just in case ICE kicks it down. I wouldn’t do it, because I wouldn’t want potential drama attached to it, nor would I want my business name drug through the mud should ICE in fact raided one of my units. However, I would imagine that there’s a large market share of rentals out there being rented solely by landlord to illegal immigrants and most likely for cash. --24.152.xxx.xx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 12:25 PM
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Actually, as a proof of income, they showed me their bank statements and transactions. They had their name on it. I am not sure what requirements banks follow to open an account for immigrants who do not have Social Security Number or Driver's ID. The point is, they are not paying by cash but through legitimate bank transaction, such as Zell. May be I am missing something here. --99.98.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 12:25 PM
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Actually, as a proof of income, they showed me their bank statements and transactions. They had their name on it. I am not sure what requirements banks follow to open an account for immigrants who do not have Social Security Number or Driver's ID. The point is, they are not paying by cash but through legitimate bank transaction, such as Zell. May be I am missing something here. --99.98.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 12:52 PM
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Most of them don't have bank accounts.

They can use their "green card" to drive legally but if they get pulled over they will get find for not having a DL but will not go to jail, or so I have been told.

Ask them if they have applied for citizen ship if that concerns you. They probably have if they have a passport and a green card, but they have to go through a long process.

If they have all of that, plus bank statements and proof of income, and proof of the last 12 months of rent payments, I would rent to them. Thus far I haven't had that happen. They also don't seem to be willing to pay application fees. So, you could technically say they are uncooperative. --73.19.xxx.xx




Undocumented Immigrant (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 12:58 PM
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If they have bank accounts, they have some sort of tax ID else how did they open the account? --173.28.xx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 1:07 PM
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How are you sure they are illegal? --107.147.xx.xx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 2:24 PM
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I'm in another world on this subject, Los Angeles California. I stopped by a Home Depot where Labor Ready provides a fully vetted labor force for contractors and home owners. I picked up a truck load of scheduled workers, most of Latin descent. My truck bed has a fold down legal seating with seat belts. I got stopped by the police. The first thing out of their mouths was, "Are these illegals and did I ask them their immigration status"?

Nicely I asked them to repeat themselves. They did not wish to comply. So I said, "Hey you stupid dummy pigs want me to make an illegal interaction with potential employee's, that would result in a $30,000 fine! I called for their supervisor. I informed the Police that it is Illegal under California Employment law to ask ANYONE their Immigration Status, or if they were born in America. The only thing I can ask for is ID and their Work Permit. Nothing Else. --47.155.xx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 2:40 PM
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I wouldnt rent to illegals, that would make me a hypocrit not to mention they can up and leave and you have no ability to go after them for damages --38.248.xx.xx




Undocumented Immigrant (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 3:13 PM
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Is this a fancy nice property, a property that is hard to rent? Where do they live now? Can't they keep living there? --172.59.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 3:19 PM
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People are classifieds as illegals if they cannot show a US Citizenship, Green Card, Work Permit or a copy of visa. For example, a visitor/tourist coming to USA or a student to study is not given a work permit. A visitor or a tourist does not have a US ID but a passport from their country of origin. Same is the case with people coming to USA on a short business trip.

I am suspicious that they COULD be illegal because they work as laborers/ painters for a contractors. It is illegal to employ them but I am not sure if it is illegal to rent them. For example, there are many Day Laborers at Gas Station in Atlanta, GA. Many of them are illegals. The local authority knows about this labor. However, it is illegal to employ them. Some contractors take a risk, some don't.

--99.98.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 4:12 PM
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Illegal = against or Not authorized by the law.

Legal = in accordance with or permitted by the law.

--204.10.xxx.xx




Undocumented Immigrant (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 4:33 PM
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From what you write, you must know the answer...? If it's illegal to employ them but selling (renting) to them maybe ok? Like month to month rental? --172.59.xxx.xx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 5:09 PM
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The probability of defaulting is low. Basically countries should make no difficult for immigrants who come country then work where allow citizenship after 5 years where they are contributing to economy then paying taxes. Where here those on social assistance are doing absolutely nothing. A industrial strategy is where you have people who show up to work, green low cost energy where there schools who teach English as a second language. Absolutely no way do they expect a country with 10 per cent of population to close down factories then production is transferred to the Us with tariff economic war fare or under no circumstances be the the 51 st state. This country is going shift trade from north and south to east and west along with building a hydro electric grid where east to west and west to east where no power from north to south. Lower energy costs are going make conditions to operate industrial plants. Steel here is using electricity where now will not export steel for pipelines, steel beams and rails. In the end the more people who work the better the economy is. --216.110.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Jim situation [CA]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 7:25 PM
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I have had a few applicants, but it takes a minimum three or four families to afford my property. My homes are all single family so I’m not interested in a boarding house. --174.243.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 8:26 PM
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Jim [CA]

I agree with you. But the rents in GA are not that high as CA. So between 3, they can easily afford the rent. It would have been difficult to have only 1 or 2 wage earners in the family. This small family of 3 adults work for the same contractor.

For 3 BR/2 BA house, occupied by 3 may appear as rooming house but they are really not having any more people. Also, I checked their passports and they all have same last name.

It is illegal to employ if they are undocumented immigrants but I need to know if it is illegal to rent them. --99.98.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Aug 3, 2025 11:53 PM
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While it is not illegal to rent to them, any non-citizen does carry higher risks. If anything happens you will have no legal recourse against them short of getting your property back through an eviction. For example, if they flee you will not be garnishable.

I have ended up renting to illegals. One guy was here working on a work visa, once the date of that visa passed, he became illegal, I didn't know at the time. Same with someone waiting for an asylum hearing. Once that court date passes, they turn into an illegal, they can even work once approved until that court date passes. The reality is you may or may not know they are here illegally; it depends on a number of factors and their status can change day by day.

--209.205.xxx.xx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Aug 4, 2025 12:04 AM
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MikeA [TX], Yes, I agree; there is a risk of them fleeing without paying rent. That is why, they have a Guarantor who is US Citizen and is Co-signing the Lease. There is still a risk but less considering the age and the family's attempt to earn a decent living through hard work.

The flip side is, I have seen some landlords who had a good experience with such tenants. Because these tenants have a less chance of finding a place with Apartment complexes and few other landlords, they are always on time to pay as they do not want to go through the finding another place where they have a slim chance.

--99.98.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Aug 4, 2025 12:04 AM
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MikeA [TX], Yes, I agree; there is a risk of them fleeing without paying rent. That is why, they have a Guarantor who is US Citizen and is Co-signing the Lease. There is still a risk but less considering the age and the family's attempt to earn a decent living through hard work.

The flip side is, I have seen some landlords who had a good experience with such tenants. Because these tenants have a less chance of finding a place with Apartment complexes and few other landlords, they are always on time to pay as they do not want to go through the finding another place where they have a slim chance.

--99.98.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Aug 4, 2025 12:04 AM
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MikeA [TX], Yes, I agree; there is a risk of them fleeing without paying rent. That is why, they have a Guarantor who is US Citizen and is Co-signing the Lease. There is still a risk but less considering the age and the family's attempt to earn a decent living through hard work.

The flip side is, I have seen some landlords who had a good experience with such tenants. Because these tenants have a less chance of finding a place with Apartment complexes and few other landlords, they are always on time to pay as they do not want to go through the finding another place where they have a slim chance.

--99.98.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Aug 4, 2025 6:45 AM
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If they have a TIN, Taxpayer ID Number and they qualify in all other manners, I would rent to them. Please understand that collecting any money due might be more difficult, so collecting a slightly larger security deposit for the first year would be my path --173.188.xx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Aug 4, 2025 4:40 PM
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Never asked to proof of citizenship in the hood. Not sure how many were illegal .... didn't need to care.

Times have changed. --198.168.xx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Aug 4, 2025 8:31 PM
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I am not employed by ICE or any other agency of the US Guvmit. I am not paid to ascertain the immigration status of any rental applicants. Don't Ask, Don't Tell. --71.38.xx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Aug 4, 2025 8:49 PM
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I would argue that illegal immigrants pose FEWER risks, especially in C and lower neighborhoods. Do you really think they'd make you go through the eviction process?

I'm with Mike. I don't ask for proof of citizenship, but I have found that my tenants for whom English is a second language are very responsible. The biggest issues I've had have been their tendency to cook with oil (greasy film on walls) and cockroaches. But that depends a lot on the individuals. They do tend to pay in cash, which some landlords might find advantageous to their tax strategy.

In answer to your actual question, you are not required by federal law to check immigration status. You may choose to, but the Fair Housing Act protects against discrimination based on race and national origin. So if you required Spanish-speaking applicants to provide proof of immigration status but not someone with a Texas drawl, this could be a fair housing violation.

So yes, I would take your applicants in a heartbeat. --104.230.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Aug 4, 2025 8:49 PM
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I would argue that illegal immigrants pose FEWER risks, especially in C and lower neighborhoods. Do you really think they'd make you go through the eviction process?

I'm with Mike. I don't ask for proof of citizenship, but I have found that my tenants for whom English is a second language are very responsible. The biggest issues I've had have been their tendency to cook with oil (greasy film on walls) and cockroaches. But that depends a lot on the individuals. They do tend to pay in cash, which some landlords might find advantageous to their tax strategy.

In answer to your actual question, you are not required by federal law to check immigration status. You may choose to, but the Fair Housing Act protects against discrimination based on race and national origin. So if you required Spanish-speaking applicants to provide proof of immigration status but not someone with a Texas drawl, this could be a fair housing violation.

So yes, I would take your applicants in a heartbeat. --104.230.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Aug 4, 2025 9:28 PM
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The Fair Housing Act protects against discrimination based on race and national origin. That applies to immigrants who come to US for say studies and then live near campus. They are lawfully documented and not necessarily immigrants as some do go back to their country after studies. So it is against the law to deny them based on their national origin because they are not illegal and are admitted to US through proper visa (such as student or research visa).

One can easily spot out troublesome illegals who would cause problem and are threat to the society. They may be doing some activity that is not a norm of the society. However, an honest family doing hard work and earning far less money through laborious painting job are not as risky as other undocumented immigrants. --99.98.xxx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by don [PA]) Posted on: Aug 5, 2025 12:04 AM
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Are you waiving certain requirements for these illegals? Such as proof of income (tax returns) or SS#??? If so, you are discriminating against American citizens and legal permanent residents. --73.188.xx.xxx




Undocumented Immigrant (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2025 6:32 AM
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BINGO !

Thanks for stopping by, Don.

The mindset is, as long as it lines their pockets. --204.10.xxx.xx




Undocumented Immigrant (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 7, 2025 10:24 AM
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RB knows the truth --73.19.xxx.xx





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