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1 in 10 Americans (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 6:45 AM Message:
Millionaires multiply across the US, but most find it’s not all mansions and champagne
By MATT SEDENSKY
Updated 2:40 PM EDT, July 29, 2025
NEW YORK (AP) — As a child, Heidi Barley watched her family pay for groceries with food stamps. As a college student, she dropped out because she couldn’t afford tuition. In her twenties, already scraping by, she was forced to take a pay cut that shrunk her salary to just $34,000 a year.
But this summer, the 41-year-old hit a milestone that long felt out of reach: She became a millionaire.
A surging number of everyday Americans now boast a seven-figure net worth once the domain of celebrities and CEOs. But as the ranks of millionaires grow fatter, the significance of the status is shifting alongside perceptions of what it takes to be truly rich.
“Millionaire used to sound like Rich Uncle Pennybags in a top hat,” says Michael Ashley Schulman, chief investment officer at Running Point Capital Advisors, a wealth management firm in El Segundo, California. “It’s no longer a backstage pass to palatial estates and caviar bumps. It’s the new mass-affluent middleweight class, financially secure but two zeros short of private-jet territory.”
nflation, ballooning home values and a decades-long push into stock markets by average investors have lifted millions into millionairehood. A June report from Swiss bank UBS found about one-tenth of American adults are members of the seven-digit club, with 1,000 freshly minted millionaires added daily last year.
hirty years ago, the IRS counted 1.6 million Americans with a net worth of $1 million or more. UBS — using data from the United Nations, World Bank, International Monetary Fund and central banks of countries around the globe — put the number at 23.8 million in the U.S. last year, a nearly 15-fold increase.
The expanding ranks of millionaires come as the gulf between rich and poor widens. The richest 10% of Americans hold two-thirds of household wealth, according to the Federal Reserve, averaging $8.1 million each. The bottom 50% hold 3% of wealth, with an average of just $60,000 to their names.
Federal Reserve data also shows there are differences by race. Asian people outpace white people in the U.S. in median wealth, while Black and Hispanic people trail in their net worth.
Barley was working as a journalist when her newspaper ended its pension program and she got a lump-sum payout of about $5,000. A colleague convinced her to invest it in a retirement account, and ever since, she’s stashed away whatever she could. The investments dipped at first during the Great Recession but eventually started growing. In time, she came to find catharsis in amassing savings, going home and checking her account balances when she had a tough day at work.
Last month, after one such day, she realized the moment had come.
“Did you know that we’re millionaires?” she asked her husband.
“Good job, honey,” Barley says he replied, unfazed.
It brought no immediate change. Like many millionaires, much of her wealth is in long-term investments and her home, not easy-to-access cash. She still lives in her modest Orlando, Florida, house, socks away half her paycheck, fills the napkin holder with takeout napkins and lines trash cans with grocery bags.
Still, Barley says it feels powerful to cross a threshold she never imagined reaching as a child.
“But it’s not as glamorous as the ideas in your head,” she says.
All wealth is relative. To thousandaires, $1 million is the stuff of dreams. To billionaires, it’s a rounding error. Either way, it takes twice as much cash today to match the buying power of 30 years ago.
A net worth of $1 million in 1995 is equivalent to about $2.1 million today, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
A seven-figure net worth is, to some, as outdated a yardstick as a six-figure salary. Nonetheless, “millionaire” is peppered in everything from politics to popular music as shorthand for rich.
“It’s a nice round number but it’s a point in a longer journey,” says Dan Usen, a 41-year-old from Providence, Rhode Island, who works in information technology and who hit the million-dollar mark last month. “It definitely gives you some room to breathe.”
No other country comes close to the U.S. in the sheer number of millionaires, though relative to population, UBS found Switzerland and Luxembourg had higher rates.
Kenneth Carow, a finance professor at Indiana University’s Kelley School of Business, says commonalities emerge among today’s millionaires. The vast majority own stocks and a home. Most live below their means. They value education and teach financial responsibility to their children.
“The dream of becoming a millionaire,” Carow says, “has become more obtainable.”
Jim Wang, 45, a software engineer-turned finance blogger from Fulton, Maryland, says even if hitting $1 million was essentially “a non-event” for him and his wife, it still held weight for him as the son of immigrants who saved money by turning the heat off on winter nights
The private jets he envisioned as a kid may not have materialized at the million-dollar threshold, but he still sees it as a marker that brings a certain level of security.
“It’s possible, even with a regular job,” he says. “You just have to be diligent and consistent.”
The resilience of financial markets and the ease of investing in broad-based, low-fee index funds has fueled the balances of many millionaires who don’t earn massive salaries or inherit family fortunes.
Among them is a burgeoning community of younger millionaires born out of the movement known as FIRE, for Financial Independence Retire Early.
Jason Breck, 48, of Fishers, Indiana, embraced FIRE and reached the million-dollar mark nine years ago. He promptly quit his job in automotive marketing, where he generally earned around $60,000 a year but managed to stow away around 70% of his pay.
Now, Breck and his wife spend several months a year traveling. Despite being retired, they continue to grow their balance by sticking to a tight budget and keeping expenses to $1,500 a month when they’re in the U.S and a few hundred dollars more when they travel.
itting their goal hasn’t translated to luxury. There is no lawn crew to cut the grass, no Netflix or Amazon Prime, no Uber Eats. They fly economy. They drive a 2005 Toyota.
“It’s not a golden ticket like it was in the past,” Breck says. “For us, a million dollars buys us freedom and peace of mind. We’re not yacht rich, but for us, we’re time rich.”
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1 in 10 Americans (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 7:34 AM Message:
With my holdings I guess I am a millionaire.
Sure doesn't seem like it when I am working on a rental tho. --107.147.xx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 7:43 AM Message:
Everybody thinks $1 million is rich, but the education system does nothing to teach people how to get there. --174.249.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by MMIT [VA]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 8:42 AM Message:
A one time investment of $3,000 in the S&P 500 a birth will grow to over $1,000,000 in 64 years.
There is no mathematical reason most of my low income tenants are not on track to become millionaires. The problem is they do not have the vision, understanding, or desire to become a millionaire. They believe the culture that they will never get ahead.
My 27 year old section 8 tenant, who also gets food stamps, free day care, utility assistance, etc, can become a millionaire if she invests in an IRA. --98.163.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 8:52 AM Message:
Not a lot. When you consider retiring, the general rule is not to withdraw more than 4% of your portfolio so you don't run out of funds. That would only be a $40,000 a year income in retirement. The poverty level for a family of 4 is right at $32,000. That is assuming that part of your wealth is not a house, if that's the case you may actually be in the poverty level. --209.205.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 9:00 AM Message:
I think of a millionaire as someone who generates that much income in a year. My units do not cash flow at that scale and the underlying property value is sort of meaningless because selling off would reduce cash flow for a short term taxable gain. Trading up in a 1031 is a different story. --172.59.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 9:59 AM Message:
NE the education system was not designed to teach kids how to be rich,it was designed to teach kids to be good little workers for the system,rich people can quit a job, poor people cant. if you want your kids to learn to be rich it is on you. millionaire is not what it was when i was a kid.i tell the young guys your goal better be 5-10 million --134.209.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 11:02 AM Message:
Going to have to get back to this. Too long to read right now. --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 11:11 AM Message:
I had always perceived a millionaire as someone who had $1M liquid/semi-liquid. (ie, a CD that matures on a predetermined date is more liquid than a structure that needs a buyer.) When I realized that it was just net worth--- that seemed much less impressive. Especially because the house you bought for $20k back in 1995 is now worth $500k in 2025... value and money-on-paper is so arbitrary.
Which is why we're doing the rentals... I don't like a piece of paper that tells me I'm worth this much this month, and then it sheds value like crazy and I'm only worth half of that next year. Instead, I like the investment that I can touch, and know that as long as it's in good shape and working, it brings me $x this month, and $x next month, and $x the month after that... Much more dependable. --137.118.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 12:32 PM Message:
I read that article yesterday. A million in net worth while fortunate, isn't a home run. You need multiple millions to be truly wealthy. --23.28.xx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 12:38 PM Message:
I realized a long time ago "Net Worth" means ABSOLUTELY nothing - especially if it's in rental real estate, and you have to liquidate to realize the worth in cash for some reason - then taxes can take more than half. --72.82.xx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 12:44 PM Message:
Come on people.
I finally made it and now reality is stripping it all away.
But then again I am content with being a hundred dollaraire. --107.147.xx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 1:10 PM Message:
Here's the thing about the 4% rule---you don't need to invest $ 1.0 million in real estate to produce $ 40k annually. Best case scenario is to have some liquid and some in real estate but not 100% in either. --23.28.xx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 2:06 PM Message:
I know, Zero, it's a bit deflating, isn't it?
The old adage "you make your money when you buy" is simply not true - never has been for us. We don't make money when we buy: we SPEND money when we buy :)
Then it's all about how fast will this place pay us back (and go on to actually make money?) The WORTH of the property is meaningless except when it comes to taxes and insurance :( We MAKE money via net cash flow.
We have an old trailer that produces as much cash monthly as one of our nice townhouses. --72.82.xx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 2:38 PM Message:
You will need a million in investments to live comfortably here where combined Canada pension and old age security of around $1,600 per month is not enough to live off in a modest raised bungalow as property taxes alone are around $6,000 CDN per year are the largest expensive along with a house is money pit where constant renovations and repairs. The plus about living here that if you need medical care then universal medical care you will not pay to visit doctor or major surgery along prescription drugs are a one third to one half the cost of the Us along seniors get more breaks. A walk on main street you see people you are smoking and some drinking where if started at 20 then started investing that would be a million or more once reached 65. Tariff war fare is going to cause hardship to those who are struggling with inflation. Absolutely no way ever become the 51st. state. Already the trade is going to be with countries tariff free. Integration with the Us is going to take time as auto sector and other industries are gradually going to shift away. If anyone thinks a country with 1/10 population is going to close down industries here is dreaming while they say we are being nasty nation to deal with where are sovereignty is a non starter. We will fight back where now a proposed oil and gas pipeline in Hudson bay make take place along with national power grid. --216.110.xxx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 3:13 PM Message:
WMH- as a flipper i live by you make your money when you buy --134.209.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 3:15 PM Message:
Robert, Canada tightly controls immigration because of universal health care. The UK did not and now their system is quickly crashing and burning. Out-of-control US immigration is crashing government-funded care here too.
US health care has changed markedly since I was younger into a system that is controlled by insurance and drug companies and *major major fraud* in our "free" systems like Medicaid for the poor or Medicare for the old.
And Universal Health Care such as Canada provides is simply not possible forever without some sort of backup option. Canada has fewer people in *total* than the single state of California. And still Canadian citizens have to buy supplemental insurance just like we do, and some have to leave Canada to get the care they need in a timely manner: Canada openly states they PRIORITIZE health care. You wait in line for your turn.
But who does the prioritizing? What if you have a blip on your leg that just looks like a mole so you have to wait to be seen but then learn that it is in fact now metastatic melanoma? Now you are in dire need of immediate, catastrophic care. It happens, you know it does.
Or what if if it's a major quality of life issue, like a hip replacement that takes years to get on the "free" list because the agency running the list decides you are old, it doesn't matter, you are not running marathons anyway. It happens, you know it does.
I have lots of Canadian friends and they are very happy with "free" health care when they are young and healthy and/or have average problems.
But as they age, many have to leave the country to get "old people" care, like that hip replacement, in a timely manner.
Financially, it's all pretty horrific. --72.82.xx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 3:22 PM Message:
Ken, I know. Investing in Real Estate has many meanings and many outcomes.
Back when we first started this, though, I did not understand that and I kept wondering what the heck people meant when they used that phrase - I was completely puzzled by it. It took me quite a while to figure out. --72.82.xx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 4:25 PM Message:
RobertON, we keep telling you that nobody wants Canada to become a state of our union. It was just something that the current president said to get a rise out of Canadians, and it has worked.
My wife had a friend in Canada many years ago. She had a tooth that needed major work. It took her a very, very long time to get in. So much so that she considered driving down here to get it handled out of pocket.
That is the only person I have talked to personally from Canada so that might be a one off.
As for the tariff issues, well we will have to wait and see how it goes. I was not a fan to begin with, but it might be opening the eyes of many countries as to how things should work.
Either way, I hold no grudge with you and hope that you hold no grudge with those of us South of you. We are all facing our own government caused problems. --107.147.xx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 4:29 PM Message:
WMH, I make money when I buy, but it never seems to reach the bank on purchase.
We live thru cashflow as well. I track each door that way.
If we have a bad tenant or just bad luck with the property it is easy enough to see. I have sold places because they under performed, even though they otherwise were great investments. --107.147.xx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 4:52 PM Message:
".... financially secure but two zeros short of private-jet territory.”...."
Or, Rolls Royce, right Brad? --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 5:05 PM Message:
"hirty years ago, the IRS counted 1.6 million Americans with a net worth of $1 million or more."
They weren't hiding in this neck of the woods. Or maybe they were, hiding that is? --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 5:13 PM Message:
"... with an average of just $60,000 to their names."
I like how they say just $60,000. I guess I am in the lower 50%? Unless they mean net worth. --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 5:26 PM Message:
"All wealth is relative. To thousandaires, $1 million is the stuff of dreams. To billionaires, it’s a rounding error. Either way, it takes twice as much cash today to match the buying power of 30 years ago."
Rounding error. Oh, that's what the problem is. --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 5:53 PM Message:
"The vast majority own stocks and a home..."
In other words, they don't want to deal with tenants. --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 5:56 PM Message:
"The private jets he envisioned as a kid may not have materialized at the million-dollar threshold, but he still sees it as a marker that brings a certain level of security."
Let's reword that.
"The Rolls Royce he envisioned as a kid may not have materialized at the million-dollar threshold, but he still sees it as a marker that brings a certain level of security."
--73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 6:01 PM Message:
"Everybody thinks $1 million is rich, but the education system does nothing to teach people how to get there"
Not even college. --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 6:04 PM Message:
"My 27 year old section 8 tenant, who also gets food stamps, free day care, utility assistance, etc, can become a millionaire if she invests in an IRA."
Then she won't get all the other stuff. --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 6:05 PM Message:
"That would only be a $40,000 a year income in retirement."
That would be great, NO? --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 8:13 PM Message:
"... the education system was not designed to teach kids how to be rich,it was designed to teach kids to be good little workers for the system"
If we all knew that at 5 years old.... --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 8:45 PM Message:
"I don't like a piece of paper that tells me I'm worth this much this month, and then it sheds value like crazy and I'm only worth half of that next year. Instead, I like the investment that I can touch, and know that as long as it's in good shape and working, it brings me $x this month, and $x next month, and $x the month after that... Much more dependable."
If we all knew that sooner.....
"You need multiple millions to be truly wealthy."
I beg to differ, you only need to be content with what you already have. Wealth of happiness is within.
" I realized a long time ago "Net Worth" means ABSOLUTELY nothing - especially if it's in rental real estate, and you have to liquidate to realize the worth in cash for some reason - then taxes can take more than half."
That's a good point.
"But then again I am content with being a hundred dollaraire."
Zero knows what happy is.
"a country with 1/10 population"
That sounds great. When can I move in? No wait, there is a reason for that. It's really cold there. Nevermind. Tempting though.
"Canada has fewer people in *total* than the single state of California."
Now I want to move again.
"You wait in line for your turn."
Could be another reason why Canada has a lower population? That's okay, unless I'm in line?
"It took me quite a while to figure out"
Apparently, I'm still working on that.
"She had a tooth that needed major work"
They used to take care of that with a piece of string tied to a door knob.
I suddenly realized I was blowing everyone's emails up, including my own. My apologies.
--73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 9:30 PM Message:
Rob ONT, you pay for that “free” healthcare via the humongous VAT. My Auntie had her gall bladder removed in the states because the wait list was too long in Ontario province. --64.246.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 30, 2025 11:13 PM Message:
From my personal experience never ever had a problem with the healthcare system in Canada as went to family doctor then received a referral to a specialist doctor where everything was done in timely manner. Covid caused a lot of problems as this over loaded medical system. Two years ago went for a private medical procedure where paid $6,100 CDN for to procedure where if waited two weeks could have went to the hospital for three days then not paid anything other than prescriptions. The urologist recommended private procedure as one hour then out the door where less invasive with steam where the hospital used a laser which is more invasive along with 20 per cent chance of complications. Was able to write some off for income taxes. Some doctors from the Us are moving to Canada where the provincial governments are making it easier. Some doctors may not make as much where they decide what is needed or refer to a specialist doctor as no fighting with insurance companies. In Germany they have a public and private system where the private system must provide care not excuses for care. I live in riding that always voted progressive Conservative in provincial and federal elections. In Newfoundland and Labrador it is easy for foreign doctor trained to international standards to practice where other provinces more difficult depending on which country or state they come from. In the end prevention is where healthy diet, exercise and not smoking will have less people in emergency or after hours clinic. --216.110.xxx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Rick [IN]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 5:14 AM Message:
"...commonalities emerge among today’s millionaires. The vast majority own stocks and a home. Most live below their means. They value education and teach financial responsibility to their children."
The money quote (yep, pun intended) --76.35.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 6:24 AM Message:
Hey Gilligan,
after 12 posts, you should ask the Man for another Star. --204.10.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 7:00 AM Message:
Back in 1754 then First Lt George Washington, passed through our area telling the French that they were unwelcome guest during the French and Indian War. So many gravestones around here say that they walked with Washington during his several journeys in Western Pa.
I hope my gravestone will not say that Ray N Pa walked with more than a few George Washingtons --173.188.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 7:04 AM Message:
This article basically says that a million dollars isn't what it used to be. With median priced homes at over $400,000 each, it doesn't take to much to achieve seven figures. The bigger concern for me is keeping the tax man out of pockets.
That silent partner isn't that friendly either --173.188.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 9:46 AM Message:
.... then there are the swings in the real estate market. I remember loosing more than a million between 2007-2013 in the hood.
Easy come, easy go. --198.168.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Chicago LL [IL]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 9:50 AM Message:
A million dollars used to be a lot over 3 decades ago. It's not much to retired on a million in the US. I plan to retire oversea where the US dollar could afford a lot more :-) --99.128.xxx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 10:38 AM Message:
RB, LOL. Maybe I should. --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 10:50 AM Message:
I thought you became a millionaire by going on the game show: Who wants to be a millionaire? $250,000 in 1980 is about $1,000,000 now. --24.152.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 3:23 PM Message:
$10,000 pyramid game in the 70's --173.188.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 3:25 PM Message:
Between the dawn of man and the 1800's, half of all those born would die before age 30. By the 1800's it had gone up to the ripe old age of 35. And they ate natural, exercised and drank pure water.
What they didn't have was AC in those areas that most need it (which is not Canada.) AC has saved countless lives...
Antibiotics helped immensely of course, because if the heat didn't kill you, the bacteria would. --173.28.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 3:28 PM Message:
Then again how much was that 1975 Chrysler Cordoba with the Corinthian Leather? --173.188.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 31, 2025 3:54 PM Message:
ş The 1975 Chrysler Cordoba gained cultural notoriety thanks to its ads featuring Ricardo Montalbán, who famously praised its “rich Corinthian leather.” That phrase was actually a clever marketing invention, as there’s no specific leather type called “Corinthian”—but it sure sounded luxurious.
° As for its price: the base model of the 1975 Cordoba was typically listed around $5,000 to $5,500 USD, which was Chrysler's attempt to offer a “personal luxury” vehicle at a mid-range price. Optional features, including that plush leather interior, could raise the price a few hundred dollars. --73.19.xxx.xx |
1 in 10 Americans (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2025 12:20 AM Message:
RayRay,
Good stuff.
I was hoping the article would move into billionaire data.
Dave Ramsey likes to say a millionaire is a person with a million dollar net worth.
But as WMH mentioned, you can't live off NET WORTH.
We can't spend EQUITY. Gotta have CASH to buy groceries.
Me? In today's economy I think if we want to consider a "millionaire" as wealthy it should be based on cash flow.
With 2.6% mortgages and 20 years of payments, folks with a decent job were buying $400K homes, which will probably be worth $6-800K or more when paid off.
I like MMIT's comment about a low income person with a consistent savings plan can build wealth.
I will say this - debt free home and debt free rentals makes for AMAZING cash flow!
BRAD
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1 in 10 Americans (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2025 12:23 AM Message:
NE,
When I was in college the direction of the college was to make you a college professor.
Now, based on the colleges and graduates I see, I don't think they are even training them to be worker bees. I see their goal as "fill seats, get tuition money".
BRAD --68.45.xxx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by JS [CA]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2025 12:53 AM Message:
Being a millionaire should be inflation adjusted as the point is not the money but the purchasing power.
So compared to 30 years ago that would be about 2 million but I would go back to 1975 when a million was actually a something. That would be about 6 million today. Now that’s a reasonably large amount of money. --162.204.xxx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2025 7:10 AM Message:
I love looking back on to the way things used to be. If you see what annual wages were in the 1950's and create the ratio of how long you had to work to pay off a car or a house, and then compare that to today- there is a telling story.
I don't know if those mandated safety features are driving up the cost of cars along with the additional planning and permitting fees for houses, but it takes an inflation adjusted salary almost 1.75 higher than inflation to buy that same house or car.
Toss in those extra cost associated with today's standard of living (cable, internet, cell phone), I think quality of life may have decreased --173.188.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Aug 1, 2025 11:23 AM Message:
But Ray they really aren't the same house or car. The houses most people want are five times as big as days of old. And cars are filled with computers.
Materials alone drive the price of housing up. Interest rates are still half what they were when we first bought our personal places back in the day...my first cottage had something like a 15% REVERSE amortization loan on it, but it was assumable and I took it. Made a fair profit on that place a short time later. 1985.
Then we were lucky to snatch up multiple small houses for cash back in the mid/late-2000's before they were demolished and a giant home erected.
Now the lots those tiny homes sit on are worth more than we paid for the whole kaboodle...even if the market crashes beyond what we can conceive, those prices won't come back :( --173.28.xx.xxx |
1 in 10 Americans (by Lisa [TX]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2025 2:42 PM Message:
JS [CA]
"So compared to 30 years ago that would be about 2 million, but I would go back to 1975 when a million was actually a something. That would be about 6 million today. Now that’s a reasonably large amount of money."
yes, I agree. that sounds about right. I am sure many folks here are worth well over 6 M and still driving old cars, shopping for sales, doing handyman work on their own LOL The freedom of time, freedom of choice and sense of security that comes with 6M is priceless.
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1 in 10 Americans (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2025 5:35 PM Message:
I will let you know when I get there. --107.147.xx.xx |
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