Vinyl plank flooring (by Ken [NY]) May 2, 2025 7:59 PM
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Vinyl plank flooring (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: May 2, 2025 7:59 PM Message:
I am in need of flooring and pretty much decided on vinyl plank flooring.I can get 12 mil but no idea if that is junk, i think 22 mil is my next option.Class B- single family i intend to keep 10 years or longer.Any experiences? --98.98.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by tim [CA]) Posted on: May 2, 2025 10:08 PM Message:
In my rentals, I've installed a lot of the Lifeproof 22 mil LVT from Home Depot and have had zero issues. The stuff is bombproof.
--73.2.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: May 2, 2025 10:10 PM Message:
Get at least 20 mil. --47.205.xxx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: May 2, 2025 10:31 PM Message:
I usually go with the 5 mil Allure gripstrip or the 12 mil Allure clicklock. They're okay. The 22 mil is probably better than those. My installs aren't as thorough as others' might be, since my handyman or husband installs rather than a real flooring guy. So when you're looking at your flooring, know that they'll perform better when properly installed.
That said--- I picked up a batch of #2 red oak hardwood for $1.39/sf. It's looking amazing! I'm so excited. We'll see how it works-- we just started yesterday-- and it's installed with a special nailer tool. He probably hasn't installed floorboards like those since the 80s, so it took him a bit to remember how it goes. But he seems to have figured out the system and it's progressing well.
#2's have a lot of short pieces. And small holes. And they'll need sanding to get rid of crayon/pencil marks. I'll pay more in labor for my $1.39 floors than I would with my $2.14 Allure floors. But they're really cool to see them go in. :) --172.59.xxx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: May 2, 2025 11:53 PM Message:
When you’re putting down Flooring I use quality rather than inexpensive because it will last years not months. I use 22 mil. I was at Home Depot and I tried assembling some flooring. The worker came to help me and under his breath. He said this stuff is crap. Needless to say, I went to a flooring store and bought good quality flooring. --99.23.xxx.x |
Vinyl plank flooring (by RB [TN]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 8:19 AM Message:
VPF, 22 mil, over Smart Core Premium Foam Underlayment.
IKNOWTHATSRIGHT. --204.10.xxx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 9:03 AM Message:
My last floor, I bought pre-finished oak hardwood. It was the same price as decent quality vinyl plank, and cheaper than the top end vinyl plank.
Install cost me slightly more and tenants have a better chance of damaging it, but it sure looks good. Higher quality rental where the wow factor is a big plus. Also, rented to an economic level where tenants tend to take better care of things.
As long as some tenant doesn't actually set fire to it, it should outlast any vinyl. --76.178.xxx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 9:15 AM Message:
Problem I've seen in the old places I did the floor ... nothing is level. Some are soup bowls others have bulges. So the floor looks GREAT for a year or two...then the seams "pop" loose. And there is really no way to correct it.
Just say'n. --198.168.xx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 9:21 AM Message:
Had the best results with Lumber Liquidator pre-finished tongue n groove products. Just enough "play" to let the product settle to an unlevel/uneven floor. Sometimes a bag of floor level cement helps the REALLY bad spots. --198.168.xx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 9:32 AM Message:
tryan- any suggestions for a floor less than level? --98.98.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 10:07 AM Message:
I'm about to decide that the foam backing and rigidity of the layer under the surface is as important as the thickness of the wear layer itself. I put down some Shaw brand that was only 12mm but had a very nice foam backing and pretty rigid core a couple of years ago. It is outperforming a 20mm no name brand that had no foam backing that I put down about the same time. --209.205.xxx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 10:12 AM Message:
Yeah ... lumber Liquidator has products with 3/8 inch tongue and groove. This allows play/movement when the product "settles" to the floor. I use a 2 1/2 inch finish nail gun at 45 degree angle on the tongue to hide the nail. And liquid nail subfloor adhesive to eliminate noise later in the floors life. --198.168.xx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 10:27 AM Message:
I like LL wood floor products ....If it's a wet area (mud room, bath....) I use cement board and tile. Tile will hide everything. --198.168.xx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by zero [IN]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 12:40 PM Message:
I started out with 6 mil stuff that had no backer to it. It is showing some signs of wear where kitchen tables and chairs are, but otherwise it is in good shape. I laid it over old vinyl many years ago
I use 12 mil stuff with a backer and have no worries now. I have some 22 mil stuff as well.
It all depends on the quality of the product, what will be on the floor, how the tenant treats it and color scheme.
Have some nice stuff that is dark, maybe close to walnut color. It has shown more scratches than the cheap 6 mil stuff that I installed years before.
On a bad floor I will use self levelling floor fill as needed. Something that you can feather edge. I have also used a belt sander or even a grinder to get the occasional humps and high seams out of the way.
I just put some chevron stuff down, more as a test, and I will never use that patterned stuff in a rental or my house. It was too easy to get off just a bit and then you can see the tiny gaps. Plus more chance of waste for the way it has to be installed. In this case a darker color would have probably hidden the problem areas I had. --107.147.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by RB [TN]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 3:21 PM Message:
Use a flashlight to check all joints.
If it aint tight, it will show. --204.10.xxx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: May 3, 2025 7:19 PM Message:
We have a no name supplier that gets us 22 mil for less than $2.50/foot. It has built in padding. We also use the wider and longer planks. Goes down faster!
You will find the thicker click lock planks install more easily than the thin ones. Easier to lock. --74.222.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: May 4, 2025 6:26 AM Message:
I have 50 mobile homes with vinyl plank flooring,I have had the finish of the wear layer wear through in one instance and this after 12 years of use.This was the cheapo allure stick together planks, the flooring was still serviceable but looked like paint drips on the floor.
That said, I have replaced lots of vinyl plank after 5 years due to separation of the plank.
Having the thickest wear layer won’t likely be the difference maker for the long lasting floor that we all desire. My experience with the 22mil wear layer plank has been that they are less pliable , are brittle and will crack, greatly reducing their useful life.
There is more to consider than wear layer thickness. Vinyl plank is expensive, and labor intensive, slows the turnover time required….we need a better option. --149.76.xxx.x |
Vinyl plank flooring (by zero [IN]) Posted on: May 4, 2025 7:48 AM Message:
Sisco I agree with you on the fact that the quality of the plank is everything.
I know I will get flamed for this, but I can install carpet in a single room faster than planks, and usually for less money.
When the prospective tenant walks into the bedroom and sees brand new carpet it makes a difference. Quality carpet lasts longer, but even the cheap stuff looks good at first.
I was recently told that carpet is alright for bedrooms if I am looking to rent to old people. Ouch, ha ha. --107.147.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by zero [IN]) Posted on: May 4, 2025 7:50 AM Message:
Oh yeah, as for a better option maybe that would be actual ceramic tile flooring?
Buy once, cry once.
I am considering putting that into the bathrooms as there isn't a lot of furniture being dragged on top of the floors in there.
But also my click vinyl stands up pretty well in there and that is faster and easier to install than ceramic. --107.147.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: May 4, 2025 1:39 PM Message:
I like the porcelain tile floors, but tenants have no difficulty with breaking the tiles if they set their minds to it and broken tiles are a real pain to repair. --76.178.xxx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: May 4, 2025 8:46 PM Message:
Ken I just put down the 22 mil life proof from HD, seems nice but have not had tenants abuse it yet. It was 3.29 sf before 10 percent off my whole order. --172.59.xxx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: May 5, 2025 8:11 AM Message:
You probably don't have the same humidity that we have down here, but since WMH posted about consistent subfloor damage under her LVP floors, I'm hesitant to use it. --165.85.xxx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by zero [IN]) Posted on: May 5, 2025 9:44 AM Message:
I would like some more input on the problems with the LVP flooring.
Who else has had problems with their subfloor?
Is it just in one geographical location?
Brand, style, backing, subfloor type, crawl specs, installed over other vinyl?
I know that some have been using it for decades. I am below that timeframe.
I have installed it over hardwood, IPB, luan, OSB, plywood, existing sheet and SS square vinyl. Vented and sealed crawls plus over basements (finished and non).
Heated places with GFA, baseboard, cable ceiling, heat pump as well as central AC, wall unit AC and window shakers.
Some have no backer. Some without backer I put backer down and some without backer I just put over layers of existing vinyl. Most have their own backer.
Brands are all over the place.
--138.199.xx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by jason [PA]) Posted on: May 5, 2025 9:45 AM Message:
I bought 2 big pallets of generic lvp I think it is 7mm. I have used half of it so far over about 3 years and I love it.
I only paid 59 cents a foot for it and I will keep using it, but I did have to replace a couple pieces due to unauthorzied pit bull. zBut is was easy to do --73.52.xx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: May 5, 2025 12:13 PM Message:
As a handyman, I've installed about a dozen floors with LVP. I tell my customers I won't use anything less than a 12 mil wear layer...and the thicker the better. I think 12 mil is fine for most applications, but if you want to keep it 10 years and not replace it, you might want to go thicker. However, as one reply above said, it may be something else besides wear that ruins it with a tenant...stains, punctures from dropping a knife, acid, etc. --64.38.xxx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: May 5, 2025 3:27 PM Message:
Thanks everyone, i am going with a 20 mil wear layer, i dont want to do it again --98.98.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by zero [IN]) Posted on: May 6, 2025 8:45 AM Message:
Ken, get a sample piece and beat it up.
Take it out to the street, put it good side down and step on it. Worse case scenario. That will show you what the scratches and such will look like.
I did a house in bamboo once. The stuff was bulletproof. I left one piece in a bucket of water, outside for months on end. No change. It was hard on the saw blades as well.
Unfortunately the coating they had on the top to make it shiny was easily scratched. Then it showed as white marks against the deep dark brown color of the planks.
Not only have I sworn off bamboo flooring, but anything too shiny is a concern for me as well. --107.147.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by John [LA]) Posted on: May 6, 2025 2:01 PM Message:
Currently dealing with damage to vinyl plank flooring. Tenant moved out and left a burn / melted area covering the corners of four planks. She stats her heating pad sparked and set the area rug on fire. Could have lost the entire four plex. --108.215.xxx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Regina [DE]) Posted on: May 6, 2025 4:49 PM Message:
I just put LVP in my rentalin Nags Head. I got Cali 9" Long plank for 2.99 sq ft. My brother paid 9.99 for same floor. If you have a General Floor store in your area ir is worth a visit. They only sell to Licensed contractors so I went through a friend who has an account with them. They sell it under their brand name Tenacity. My installer told me the boxes all say Cali on them! The install went great. --23.141.xxx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Lianne [MI]) Posted on: May 7, 2025 8:05 AM Message:
I don't know if this applies to LVP and scratches... but we had a new purchase rental that had a pergo type product, with scratches (now I see they must have been in the wear layer. I thought about filling the scratches with stain, but there were so MANY. Hundreds, thousands in the traffic area. So I tried a restorer. Rejuvenate Floor Restorer $21.97 bought on Amazon. Amazing! Brought a shine everywhere. Scratches disappeared. there is a cleaner also. Both apply with flat mop. I left a flat mop and cleaner in broom closet as we do when they should use a specialty cleaner on wood floors or any product. The restorer can be used on all floors. Worth a try... sample test. --24.247.xxx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by zero [IN]) Posted on: May 7, 2025 9:10 AM Message:
I picked up a couple gallons of the Rejuvenate Floor Restorer from auction.
Have yet to be able to try it out but I am happy to hear that it worked for you.
How long before you have to recoat the scratched flooring? --107.147.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Judi [MI]) Posted on: May 8, 2025 10:36 AM Message:
I haven't put vinyl plank in my rentals yet but have it in several rooms in my home. We always choose the thicker plank (HD Lifeproof) and are very pleased with the look and wear. While it's true that it can be scratched, a quick buff with a softer scotch brite pad takes the edges off and makes the scratch virtually invisible. Make sure you follow the installation instructions (leaving small gaps at the end for expansion) and use the proper trim pieces for threshold joining to carpet or tile for a finished look. --172.3.xx.xx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Jerry [NY]) Posted on: May 8, 2025 2:21 PM Message:
I have installed about a dozen Lifeproof 22 mil LVT from Home Depot. All remains in good shape except where a tenant flooded his br floor with a plugged toilet in the adjacent bathroom.
It buckled up and had to be removed. He paid, but I replaced with 3/8' bamboo. Using pre-finished hardwood now. --72.228.xx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Deb Miller [NV]) Posted on: May 13, 2025 12:52 PM Message:
Has anyone tried glue down vinyl plank? They have glue where you can pull up the damaged planks and replace them.
We just put in our RV... It has done well in a commercial building... a few planks were damaged and the installer had it fixed quickly. --71.94.xxx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Rebecca [AL]) Posted on: May 13, 2025 3:54 PM Message:
Big YES on glue down LVP: we have standardized on and used in numerous houses and apartments for the last several years. Looks great, easy to maintain, very pet friendly, relatively inexpensive to install, has held up incredibly well.
What we've used is tough (I test it by scraping a sample as hard as possible with tip of key or other pointed object). We have only had to replace maybe 2-3 pieces in 8 years and 20+ rentals). Easy, peasy to replace: pull up and put down new piece. (make sure the right glue is used for the original install). Initially used shaw resilient Prime Plank 0616V. Different colors but the most forgiving is Weathered barnboard 400(has white in pattern so even deep scrape won't show) and goes with grays or tans. (are trying others where we've gotten great pricing from local flooring co.)
AND.... The best thing we discovered... Air bnb apartment had flooded - standing water (due to inside wall plumbing leak). after leak was fixed, manager mopped up & towel dried floor and put 2 fans on it. Renter moved in 2 days later without any problems No mold, no buckling or lifting up of vinyl. Still perfect sev. years later. (note this was glued directly on slab)
(We have also used traffic master grip strip for years prior to glue down ; it held up well but is slightly more difficult to replace, and after the water recovery above, we insist on glue down.)
We also provide every new tenant with floor cleaning instructions and a microfiber mop and sometimes a bottle of rejuvenate floor clearer (esp. if hardwood).
We do not normally need special cleaning or shine restore products but if needed, we've found REjuvenate floor cleaner and shine restore products were worth the money (for hardwood and vinyl - different products). (better than bono in our testing).
--136.53.xx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: May 16, 2025 2:07 PM Message:
Tyran: I have old houses. I’ve used leveler. --104.28.xx.xxx |
Vinyl plank flooring (by Finisher [VA]) Posted on: May 20, 2025 5:03 PM Message:
Smartcire Ultra in bathrooms cause it's waterproof, has backer soft pad, clicks together so it floats above an uneven floor. I had extra so put it in my own homes half bath. I got it at Lowes but it may have been discontinued. It's box says certified low chemical emissions unlike Allure flooring. Box says install in climate controlled space so neither temps real hot or real cold.
I sort boxes of our fav gray "Woodford Oak"in two piles for dark planks and light planks so my bath floors have a similar COLOR. Only 7.5 ml thick --172.59.xxx.xxx |
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