Damage Repayment
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Damage Repayment (by RockyMtnLL [CO]) Mar 11, 2025 8:57 AM
       Damage Repayment (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2025 9:03 AM
       Damage Repayment (by S i d [MO]) Mar 11, 2025 10:40 AM
       Damage Repayment (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Mar 11, 2025 11:15 AM
       Damage Repayment (by RockyMtnLL [CO]) Mar 11, 2025 12:07 PM
       Damage Repayment (by Still Learning [NH]) Mar 11, 2025 3:03 PM
       Damage Repayment (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 11, 2025 3:04 PM
       Damage Repayment (by Nicole [PA]) Mar 11, 2025 10:00 PM
       Damage Repayment (by RockyMtnLL [CO]) Mar 13, 2025 9:04 AM
       Damage Repayment (by Jason [VA]) Mar 13, 2025 9:13 AM
       Damage Repayment (by Phil [OR]) Mar 15, 2025 5:42 PM
       Damage Repayment (by plenty [MO]) Mar 15, 2025 6:00 PM

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Damage Repayment (by RockyMtnLL [CO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2025 8:57 AM
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Hello all. I'm wanting to get some opinions on a "reasonable" repayment schedule, which I presume will be ignored, but needs to be presented. Here's the details:

About 3 weeks ago, a married couple went to work at leaving their two teenage sons and two of the sons friends home alone.

Upon rising, one of the guests was slow to wake up, so the other two friends opted to pour water on him. A scuffle ensued resulting in a broken 4x7 foot upstairs window, lacerations requiring stitches in one of the guests, a phone call to police and drama.

The parents left work to address problem and each of them promised to repay for the damage done. One of the guests mother's also said she would pay for the damage.

The damage has been mostly resolved. 3 carpets were permanently stained by blood (but they were very old carpets). The window replacement cost $3,800. I presented the tenant with copies of the bills and requested that they pay immediately or arrange a repayment schedule. The tenants responded that they would have to make payments.

As I was running errands out of town yesterday, I saw the husband at an employment agency. Previous jobs have ended for him and though no one would say so prior to renting to him, later it came out that he was an okay employee - when he chose to come to work - which was not all that often. The wife is overburdened working long hours and doing her best to maintain sanity. They were supposed to have a renter's insurance policy, but I suspect they let that lapse.

They have trouble paying their rent at $1,700/month. They now owe $3,800. Their rent is up to date. In addition to the two teen sons, they also have a toddler. If this ends up in court, I can see this absorbing more unpaid time of not returning the rental and costing additional money in legal fees to get them evicted.

For now, it appears that a repayment schedule must be arranged and only if they do not pay may I pursue eviction. What is a reasonable repayment to offer? (Colorado courts have become quite tenant-friendly. If this results in eviction, I realize I will never see a dime of the damage and the legal costs will escalate the financial loss.)

Thanks in advance for your input.

--69.131.xxx.xx




Damage Repayment (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2025 9:03 AM
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I’d give 3-4 months MAX! Full payment over that time. 10% discount for paid in 2 months 20% discount if paid in full in one month. You probably need to move these people out, but don’t mention it until you’re paid. Demand an agreement from them on your terms and if they lapse, go directly to court. On another note, what’s that window made out of? Pure gold? --174.249.xx.xxx




Damage Repayment (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2025 10:40 AM
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"Dear Tenant, you must pay the damages in the amount of (fill in the blank) per month due on or before (fill in the date) until paid in full. Failure to pay according to this schedule will result in eviction papers being filed immediately due to damage to the unit. Sincerely, The Manager"

That should do it. You pick the amount. You pick the due date. But based on what you've told me, they either can't or won't pay no matter how low you go. They're already struggling. Adding $50 per month to them means they will struggle that much more. At this point, there's no need to be "nice" or use kiddie-gloves. They did damage. They need to work more hours and get the money pay or they need to leave. It really is that simple.

Don't wait. You're only one more bucket of water away from another $4,000 repair bill. These people sound crazy. They can and will break your property faster than you can bill and collect from them for repairs. For that reason, I try to get rid of crazy asap!

P.S. Fix your lease. All money gets applied to current charges, fees, and bills FIRST and rent LAST. Therefore, they are not current on the rent, because the money received was applied to the damage bill. Evicting for unpaid rent is easier than evicting for unpaid damages. --184.4.xx.x




Damage Repayment (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2025 11:15 AM
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You think they have let their tenant's insurance lapse, but find out for sure.

Get the mother of the guest who was involved to sign some sort of IOU for part of the amount. Maybe she is capable of making payments.

Your own insurance company will more than likely cover the cost. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Damage Repayment (by RockyMtnLL [CO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2025 12:07 PM
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To Oregon: I wonder if you have considered the back side of claiming it on the owner's insurance policy. Insurance rates will be jumped significantly and quite possibly they will cancel the policy.

To Sid: You are right. I look for this tenancy to fail, but in Colorado now, the only reason I can evict is for criminal activity or non-payment. I've served papers based on late payment enough to build the case for termination due to repeat offending, but these tenants have, thus far, kept ahead of it by paying their rent just before action can be taken. With this additional bill, it will make it harder for them to keep up.

My goal in asking the original question was to establish what a "reasonable" repayment schedule would be so that I don't end up having an eviction up-ended by a lenient judge who confuses the estate with a lending agency. Ugh! --69.131.xxx.xx




Damage Repayment (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2025 3:03 PM
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Reasonable or realistic? Reasonable would be a few months. Realistic is a whole different story. If you have to take them to small claims court the judge will pick an amount they can afford. I would give them 2-3 options to choose from. Pay in full in 30 days with a $xxx discount offered. Pay $500 initial payment and $300 a month plus interest which gets you paid in a year with a signed admission of damage and agreed upon payment plan. If you would rather they left offer if they leave by end of month, with no additional damage, apply security deposit and move on before they owe you more. --73.149.xx.xxx




Damage Repayment (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2025 3:04 PM
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I rented home to a nice couple with two grown children over 20, male and female. The kids fought like cats and dogs. So when the parents were out of town on business, the kids got into it and damaged two interior doors, frames, locks and some wall holes.

The parents were of the opinion they were not responsible for repairs. I sent them an estimate of the repairs, giving them 1 week to pay up. Then I posted a 24 hour notice and have things professionally repaired/replaced.

Now the final bill came to almost double. I sent them a demand letter. No response.

So I went to the place of employment for the parents, they were professors at a college. The President was not amused that the couple allowed their kids to damage a rental and no one would pay for the repairs. I also went to the son's place of employment, working for his girlfriends dad.

This caused many problems for my tenants. They paid up and moved out. --47.155.xx.xx




Damage Repayment (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2025 10:00 PM
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are parents of the friends home owners? If so, their insurance probably will pay.

30ish years ago my personal homeowners insurance paid for my share of a tractor that one of my children and his friend crashed.

I had no idea but the property owner where they were (not the friend's family and not the farmer) that day suggested we submit it and it got paid with no hesitation. --98.237.xxx.xx




Damage Repayment (by RockyMtnLL [CO]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2025 9:04 AM
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To Nicole: The parents of the other teens are a mess. One lives in a camper on her parent's property because, I presume, she lost her regular housing. Oddly, she's the one who offered to pay on the damage, but I've not seen anything of that yet. Her teen was the one who needed stitches, so I imagine she's got a hefty medical bill to deal with, too. My agreement is with the tenants who rent the dwelling, so I do not have authority to do collect from their guests.

Regarding insurance claims, it's fine if the tenant submits this to their renter's policy (providing they kept it current) but submitting this to the homeowner's policy will likely result in refusal to cover this property and/or a significant increase in premiums.

At the end of this rainbow, I need to get the actual tenants to move, but Colorado has made that process very difficult if the tenant is paying and not doing criminal activities.

--69.131.xxx.xx




Damage Repayment (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Mar 13, 2025 9:13 AM
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By accepting a payment plan, you're giving them a loan. Remind them that it will be in their best interest to pay it off early, as the 6% interest will continue to accrue.

That said, give them options: $50/mo, $100/mo, $250/mo. If they're paying $1700 per month, the $xx damage payment gets applied to their outstanding balance FIRST and anything remaining gets applied towards their rental balance so that if they stop paying the damage payment, they're evicted for nonpayment of rent. --165.85.xxx.xxx




Damage Repayment (by Phil [OR]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2025 5:42 PM
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Write up a repayment schedule- have all parents sign it--both your tenant and visitors . Put them all on the hook for it. --76.138.xxx.xxx




Damage Repayment (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2025 6:00 PM
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Isn't this addressed in your lease? Mine says how any money received is applied. They'd quickly be behind on rent --172.59.xxx.xxx



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