fire blanket?
Click here for Top Ten Discussions. CLICK HERE for Q & A Homepage
Receive Free Rental Owner Updates Email:  
MrLandlord Q & A
     
     
fire blanket? (by Hollis [MA]) Nov 21, 2024 1:09 PM
       fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Nov 21, 2024 1:14 PM
       fire blanket? (by NE [PA]) Nov 21, 2024 1:29 PM
       fire blanket? (by Ken [NY]) Nov 21, 2024 1:40 PM
       fire blanket? (by Hollis [MA]) Nov 21, 2024 1:52 PM
       fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Nov 21, 2024 1:58 PM
       fire blanket? (by NE [PA]) Nov 21, 2024 2:13 PM
       fire blanket? (by plenty [MO]) Nov 21, 2024 2:14 PM
       fire blanket? (by NE [PA]) Nov 21, 2024 2:22 PM
       fire blanket? (by Still Learning [NH]) Nov 21, 2024 2:37 PM
       fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Nov 21, 2024 3:45 PM
       fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Nov 21, 2024 4:24 PM
       fire blanket? (by Still Learning [NH]) Nov 21, 2024 4:57 PM
       fire blanket? (by Ken [NY]) Nov 21, 2024 4:58 PM
       fire blanket? (by Hollis [MA]) Nov 21, 2024 5:22 PM
       fire blanket? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Nov 22, 2024 7:17 AM
       fire blanket? (by John... [MI]) Nov 22, 2024 8:46 AM
       fire blanket? (by zero [IN]) Nov 22, 2024 9:06 AM
       fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Nov 22, 2024 9:56 AM
       fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Nov 22, 2024 9:56 AM
       fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Nov 22, 2024 9:56 AM
       fire blanket? (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Nov 22, 2024 11:00 AM
       fire blanket? (by Ken [NY]) Nov 22, 2024 12:18 PM
       fire blanket? (by mark v [MA]) Nov 22, 2024 12:47 PM
       fire blanket? (by zero [IN]) Nov 22, 2024 1:06 PM
       fire blanket? (by John... [MI]) Nov 22, 2024 3:18 PM
       fire blanket? (by NE [PA]) Nov 22, 2024 3:41 PM
       fire blanket? (by Hollis [MA]) Nov 22, 2024 4:48 PM
       fire blanket? (by John... [MI]) Nov 23, 2024 3:47 PM
       fire blanket? (by Hollis [MA]) Nov 23, 2024 4:29 PM
       fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Nov 23, 2024 4:56 PM
       fire blanket? (by #22 [MO]) Nov 26, 2024 5:37 PM

Click here to reply to this discussion.
Click Here to send this discussion to a friend

fire blanket? (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 1:09 PM
Message:

Any thoughts about suppling a fire blanket to tenants?

.youtube.com/watch?v=CjKvDS-QLkI --96.236.xxx.xx




fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 1:14 PM
Message:

We do. And extinguishers. And detectors. Why not? --173.28.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 1:29 PM
Message:

Detectors only. Get out of the house! --174.249.xx.xx




fire blanket? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 1:40 PM
Message:

I am with NE- I want the tenants to leave the house,I do not want them getting hurt or dead and suing me.It is my job to be insured,that is not the tenants problem --208.115.xxx.xxx




fire blanket? (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 1:52 PM
Message:

Did you see the infomercial? Its mainly for relatively small stove fires,.people do the dumbest things when it happens like throw water on a grease fire, or a toaster fire etc.

For those fires I think its a better choice than a fire extinguisher

I have one at my house,..on a hook far enough from my stove to be able to get to it. --96.236.xxx.xx




fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 1:58 PM
Message:

If a pan flames up I don't want them running out and letting the house go up in flames! Sheesh. Put it out easily with one of these. --173.28.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 2:13 PM
Message:

Why not WMH? That’s an insurance dream! As long as nobody gets hurt, let the stupid place burn. --174.249.xx.xx




fire blanket? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 2:14 PM
Message:

Mixed reviews on to supply or not. Following. --172.59.xxx.xxx




fire blanket? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 2:22 PM
Message:

WMH, have you ever had a place totaled by fire? I have, and I know several people that have as well. --174.249.xx.xx




fire blanket? (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 2:37 PM
Message:

Having had my primary house burn down, even it wasn’t a total loss. They wanted to save a fireplace and some stick construction. My builder said pay more in demo and less in materials or less for demo and more for materials but it would equal out. Insurance based pay out in saving parts. We bulldozed and started fresh. My insurance requires fire extinguishers but the local fire dept would prefer tenants just got out. WMH, where do you put the fire blanket? --107.115.xx.xx




fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 3:45 PM
Message:

Depends on the unit - in the kitchen of course, but depends on the layout. Ours is under our sink on the door. --173.28.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 4:24 PM
Message:

Why would we want a house to burn down? Curious about that. We own several modular / mobile homes. They are worth WELL more in rents than the value they can be insured for. --173.28.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 4:57 PM
Message:

If you have a big fire and everyone is sale, some times it is easier to tear down and rebuild than deal with smoke and water damage. --107.115.xx.xx




fire blanket? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 4:58 PM
Message:

WMH-If a tenant gets hurt or killed you will probably get sued.I had 1 fire and received more than the house was worth,i was co insured or whatever they call it meaning not insured enough but if i were i would have received a lot more for the claim --208.115.xxx.xxx




fire blanket? (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Nov 21, 2024 5:22 PM
Message:

I had a big fire once,..fighting with my insurance company that wanted to pay a low amount, I decided to hire a independent claims adjustor,..they hired builders, engineers, etc,and how long this took and lost rent $ ,..well,.. After looking at all the information the judge . Really threw the book at the insurance co..The Indepantant claims adjustor co .got me mre than double what my insurance company wanted to pay,.over 120 K,

So yes it "kinda" was to my advantage,..but soon after the insurance payout,..all the rest of my properties got a substantial raise in insurance rates. (Several difference Ins companies.)

But they all share information thru the "C L U E" reports

and you might son be paying the :gain" back and more if you hold your properties for a whie.

It may also effect any of the new properties,..Doesn't do much good to change companies as they also look at loses,..sure they may low ball your rate for a while to get you under their wing..but then bump those rates up.

You might say you can then you can cancel and go to a new Insurance company and that used to work but now with computers and the shared information ,..the Insurance companies are not stupid and savvy that someone does this and will stop that game by a number of means. --73.126.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 7:17 AM
Message:

I am told that about 1/3 of all kitchen fires spread when that frying pan fire is attempted to be carried outside before it gets too hot and dropped onto the floor.

From a practical stand point, most house fires are only small fires. The question becomes, do I as a landlord feel comfortable relying on my tenant with limited to no training to combat that fire.

A fire blanket for my own house isn't a bad idea I suppose. But I will not rely on my residents to fight a fire. I have a hard time with them doing something routine like changing furnace filters.

Now do I have the said fire blanket? Nope, if fire breaks out at my house - I will call 911 instead. I might wait 20 minutes before calling 911, but just the same --24.101.xxx.xxx




fire blanket? (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 8:46 AM
Message:

I disagree with "The questions becomes, do I as a landlord feel comfortable relying on my tenant..."

The question is: am I increasing or decreasing my potential liability?

I'm with NE on this one. We supply what is legally required. No less, no more.

--107.181.xxx.x




fire blanket? (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 9:06 AM
Message:

I looked into fire blankets a few months to a year back.

They can be good, if they are where someone can get to them in a panic.

They are not all made the same either. Some of them come with gloves to wear before touching them. This is because of the exposed fiberglass. Now maybe not all of the blankets are this way, not sure.

If a fire broke out would a tenant remain calm enough to go thru the steps needed for said blankets?

Find the blanket, put on the gloves, open the blanket, place the blanket over the fire to smother the flames, wait until the flames are dead, remove the blanket, survey the situation.

Some of mine might but you never know how people will react in a situation like that.

My daughter started a little stove top fire and doused the place with an extinguisher. Not a grease fire, not a big fire. She fell back on training which was to use an extinguisher. Not needed. Made a hell of a mess.

I'm happy that she wasn't hurt and that she cleaned up the mess after. --107.147.xx.xx




fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 9:56 AM
Message:

I don't think most of our tenants are idiots. And the fire blankets we have don't require gloves and fiberglass and things like that. I think that having one or not having one doesn't make me any more liable for their burning down the house if they start a fire. But I do know of a few cases where having a fire extinguisher saved a property from a major fire. Instead they were non-events. So for the price of a fire blanket and a fire extinguisher why not? Fire detector, fire extinguisher, fire blanket.... Tiny tools that could prevent a big problem. --174.206.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 9:56 AM
Message:

I don't think most of our tenants are idiots. And the fire blankets we have don't require gloves and fiberglass and things like that. I think that having one or not having one doesn't make me any more liable for their burning down the house if they start a fire. But I do know of a few cases where having a fire extinguisher saved a property from a major fire. Instead they were non-events. So for the price of a fire blanket and a fire extinguisher why not? Fire detector, fire extinguisher, fire blanket.... Tiny tools that could prevent a big problem. --174.206.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 9:56 AM
Message:

I don't think most of our tenants are idiots. And the fire blankets we have don't require gloves and fiberglass and things like that. I think that having one or not having one doesn't make me any more liable for their burning down the house if they start a fire. But I do know of a few cases where having a fire extinguisher saved a property from a major fire. Instead they were non-events. So for the price of a fire blanket and a fire extinguisher why not? Fire detector, fire extinguisher, fire blanket.... Tiny tools that could prevent a big problem. --174.206.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 11:00 AM
Message:

We do supply extinguishers and fire blankets. We try not to rent to dumb as posts tenants. Right now we have 3 stellar tenant families and 2 mediocre ones.

In the town we own rentals, the town will charge you to tear down what's left of the building to the tune of at least 25K. As the previous charity woman found out after having a fire then handing over the keys to us in frustration.

You may be able to get costs of demolition covered by insurance--I couldn't speak to that. I know she didn't. She bought the place at a tax auction--she may not have had insurance on the building that she had turned into an illegal rooming/flop house for less than a year. --64.246.xxx.xx




fire blanket? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 12:18 PM
Message:

mapleleaf, they may charge you for the demo but they just add it to the taxes, the land isnt worth the cost of demo so walk away and let them forecose for non payment of taxes --208.115.xxx.xxx




fire blanket? (by mark v [MA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 12:47 PM
Message:

I think the people here that are negative to a fire blanket

never looked at the posted link, or any other examples of them.

Easy to use for kitchen fires, even more so than using a fire extinguisher that we have to provide.

That company that is represented in the commercial can provide a hook in which to hang it near , but not to close of a potential fire.

So I would not rather have a tenant run out of my building with a stove fire ,or worse, they try to but out a grease fire or a toster oven with water as its often the first thing they try,..often making it worse .

Also we had a fire which the tenant tried to put out and eventually did,..but the soot from it made the kitchen a real mess,.. --96.236.xxx.xx




fire blanket? (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 1:06 PM
Message:

I will give them another look.

If they do not require gloves or getting pricked by fiberglass I will consider them again.

No I did not watch the video, but I will.

I guess if they work as described I could buy some as gifts for family as well as tenants. --107.147.xx.xx




fire blanket? (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 3:18 PM
Message:

WMH: To answer your question of why not for something like a fire extinguisher...

Because it then becomes your responsibility to check it (or, in some areas, have it be checked annually by a professional).

Laws are weird. Liability is sometimes weird. Let's say the tenant's kids take it outside one day and use it for fun. Their parents don't notice. They put it back empty in the rental.

Now a fire starts. The tenants run to the hallway or closet or wherever you keep the extinguisher, try to use it, can't figure out why it isn't working in a moment of panic before they finally realize it is empty, and are badly burned because they went back towards the fire with it getting ready to use an empty extinguisher.

Do you think you have any liability for that empty extinguisher and their burns? You may not, but their lawyer certainly will. Especially if the kids never admit to playing with it.

Now, that being said, we actually DO provide some fire extinguishers because I think they are a good thing for people to have. But to answer your question of "Why not?" -- there certainly ARE liability reasons to not provide things. Maybe you've decided that it is still worth it (again, I have in some cases too). But there simply ARE things to be concerned about that are reasonable answers to your "why not?" question.

--107.181.xxx.x




fire blanket? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 3:41 PM
Message:

I think any of the landlords here that are providing any fire fighting equipment beyond the absolute minimum required by local code is absolutely NUTS!! More worry goes into incorrectly rejecting some scumbag with a fake ESA than taking on the liability of this. Come on folks, use your heads here. Holy cow. --24.152.xxx.xx




fire blanket? (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2024 4:48 PM
Message:

I think if you look at that link and watch what kind of fires its used on, and how it's used, you might have a different feeling about them, Its not for slightly bigger fires that an fire extinguisher would be used, The point is a stop a fire to not get out of control.

A small fire yes a blanket, slightly larger,a fire extinguisher, a bit larger,..yes get out of the house, but one just has to see how many people die in a fire each year.Most of them have not died fighting the fire, but being surprised by one already out of control. The reason for adequate and functional smoke dectors,..best a dual photoelectric and ionization sealed 10 year ( I realize many don't last that long but tenants can't remove the batteries to run something else)

But often I have found many LL's don't want to spend the

extra money for them (although I see the prices have come way down now)

I see in the news that fire chiefs often say that in a fatal fire it was found that there were no functional detectors found. --73.126.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2024 3:47 PM
Message:

Hey -- feel free to print out a flyer with a QR code link to the video to hand to tenants when they sign the lease. If they want to buy a blanket, then so be it!

But otherwise I still agree with NE. It's not up to us to provide these. If people want them for themselves, then so be it. --75.128.xxx.xxx




fire blanket? (by Hollis [MA]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2024 4:29 PM
Message:

JOHN,

I still think the LL is at a great disadvantage with a fire, despite how well you THINK you have been paid at first,

I have talked to a few firemen that said some try water,..tries baking soda, struggled with a fire extinguisher, before it got more out of control.

I think its the simplest and safest and cheapest.way to put out a small kitchen fire, and the main benefit ultimately is for the landlord. I don't think it carries any more liability to the LL than if a tenant tries baking soda, water, or fire extinguisher. Also generally faster,.again we are talking small kitchen fires. --73.126.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2024 4:56 PM
Message:

Hollis is right - these blankets are not for big fires. They are for the type of fire that happens to "adventurous" cooks that tend to use the smoke detector as a kitchen timer. --173.28.xx.xxx




fire blanket? (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2024 5:37 PM
Message:

I agree with Ne. Should we buy fire trucks to park in front of our rentals..... just in case???? --174.210.x.xxx



Click Here to send this discussion to a friend
Report discussion to Webmaster


Reply:
Subject: RE: fire blanket?
Your Name:
Your State:

Message:
fire blanket?
Would you like to be notified via email when somebody replies to this thread?
If so, you must include your valid email address here. Do not add your address more than once per thread/subject. By entering your email address here, you agree to receive notification from Mrlandlord.com every time anyone replies to "this" thread. You will receive response notifications for up to one week following the original post. Your email address will not be visible to readers.
Email Address: