Well (by Ken [NY]) Sep 23, 2024 2:43 PM
Well (by NE [PA]) Sep 23, 2024 2:47 PM
Well (by NE [PA]) Sep 23, 2024 2:48 PM
Well (by JAC [OH]) Sep 23, 2024 3:07 PM
Well (by jonny [NY]) Sep 23, 2024 3:13 PM
Well (by Ken [NY]) Sep 23, 2024 3:27 PM
Well (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Sep 23, 2024 3:45 PM
Well (by JAC [OH]) Sep 23, 2024 4:44 PM
Well (by NE [PA]) Sep 23, 2024 4:48 PM
Well (by NE [PA]) Sep 23, 2024 5:16 PM
Well (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 23, 2024 5:33 PM
Well (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 23, 2024 7:35 PM
Well (by plenty [MO]) Sep 23, 2024 7:40 PM
Well (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Sep 24, 2024 12:44 AM
Well (by Pat [VA]) Sep 24, 2024 7:28 AM
Well (by zero [IN]) Sep 24, 2024 10:34 AM
Well (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 25, 2024 2:38 AM
Well (by Ryan24 [MD]) Sep 25, 2024 9:03 AM
Well (by tryan [MA]) Sep 25, 2024 4:08 PM
Well (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Sep 26, 2024 7:34 AM
Well (by Ken [NY]) Sep 26, 2024 8:18 AM
Well (by Busy [WI]) Sep 26, 2024 2:49 PM
Well (by zero [IN]) Sep 27, 2024 9:14 AM
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Well (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 2:43 PM Message:
I was in the process of buying a house on a well and made the deal contingent on a well inspection and adequate volume of water.I have limited experience buying houses on a well despite living my entire life on a well and septic.I hired a well guy and he got the water going through a meter and at 5 gallons a minute it ran out of water at the 10 minute mark,after 5 minutes of sitting it ran for 3 minutes then ran out again.That was enough for me, i cant expect a tenant to be careful and i cant get someone financing if i sell it so i cancelled the deal.Do any of you with wells have problems with lack of volume? --24.199.xx.xx |
Well (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 2:47 PM Message:
I have bought lots of properties on wells and tested none of them for volume. --174.249.xx.xx |
Well (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 2:48 PM Message:
Actually, I have never sold one and had a buyer test for volume either. Had plenty of water test as far as bacteria and minerals go and I’ve had to put in a couple in filtration systems. Nothing for volume. --174.249.xx.xx |
Well (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 3:07 PM Message:
Expect this to become the norm. Letting corporate interests suck the aquifers dry is going to put the cost on you as a well owner to redrill your well or go on muni water where possible. --208.102.x.xxx |
Well (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 3:13 PM Message:
Wow... 5 gallons a minute is a lot to ask. I think the "norm" is 3 gallons a minute for 2 hours (that's the metered part but some actually run it for the full 2 hours). How deep is the well? It very well could be a dug well and if it is that's probably part of the problem (it's not deep enough).
Basically, you want enough that if you do a load of laundry and flush the toilet, take a shower and want to do the dishes all within an hour or so that you won't run out of water (or have it so low that it will take a while for it to come back).
However, if it's running out in about 10 minutes, that's not good at all. Again... how deep is the well? Is it dug or drilled?
--67.253.xxx.xxx |
Well (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 3:27 PM Message:
NE- Everyone here gets an inspection and would have a well and septic inspected.I think i will stick with houses on city water and sewer. jonny, not sure on depth but he said no more than 80 feet due to the style of pump being used.I was told 5 gallons a minute for 1 hour is typical bank requirements although 3 gallons is ok for some banks, i went with 5 gallons to be safe,i dont want to not be able to sell it when the time comes.He felt we pumped out the well pipe and it was filling back in so slowly to keep up.It is a drilled well,if it were dug i would have said no as soon as i sold it. when i was a kid we had a dug well and in summer my dad carried buckets from the crick to flush the toilet until they had a well drilled which produces very good water and so much volume it could be used by the town. i remember when they tested it it produced so much water it flooded my parents pasture and we have never had a single problem with it --24.199.xx.xx |
Well (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 3:45 PM Message:
@JAC "oh no...anyway" LOL
We live near a swamp, errr I mean "wetland" which was manmade due to dairy farmer tiling the land. We have an artesian well and live in a very low area where the soil doesn't perc. We NEVER run out of water (knock on wood). Even in the dryest of spells when other people down the street (on the high side of the road) are buying water b/c their well ran dry days ago, out pump is still cranking out overflow.
That being said I would never trust a tenant with a well, a septic system nor an oil fired heating system. --64.246.xxx.xx |
Well (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 4:44 PM Message:
Well with a significant majority of wells being aquifer or surface, I guess you can count yourself being lucky because you got yours. The point is that as aquifers drop due to unregulated draw you can bet its going to cost alot of other people money. The swamp makes sense too. --208.102.x.xxx |
Well (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 4:48 PM Message:
Crack is whack JAC --24.152.xxx.xx |
Well (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 5:16 PM Message:
Ken, we’ve never had a bank ask either. You might want to check a little more into this. --24.152.xxx.xx |
Well (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 5:33 PM Message:
I went to buy a house using a well for water in the dessert. Could have been my WORST PURCHASE had I not done my Homework! The property I was interested in buying and the house next to me shared a second well, on my property. So the previous owners dug a second well because the first went dry in the drought. Since this was a vacation property, the neighbor was and old poor guy and convinced the owners of the property I was interested in buying to allow the use of surplus water.
Years pass and everyone forgets these issues. So I went to all of the neighbors with wells and asked if they could share with me their history and any test drills results. For a Fee, they all provided me with information.
I then made a counter offer to purchase the property.
1) I would have the well tested at the sellers expense, no more than $1000.
2) If there was any issues and I'd need to dig a new well, the sellers would pay HALF of those costs, out of the escrow fund.
3) If there were any "legal" issues with the Water, then the sellers would pay for my legal costs.
I then upgraded my Title Insurance to include all boundaries to be surveyed, marked and recorded with the county recorders office.
Since the neighbor never documented use of my water, I cut him off!
He filed a restraining order not to tamper with "His Water Rights".
As that moment my Title Policy and the Sellers were on the hood.
I got a new well drilled, were the most water could be found. I got the neighbor to pay me $200 a month to use my old well for his water. And I closed the purchase with a $50,000 discount. --173.205.xxx.xxx |
Well (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 7:35 PM Message:
That's a lot of water per minute. --76.129.xxx.xx |
Well (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 7:40 PM Message:
Shouldn't it have an interior holding tank to allow for that flux in pressure? --172.59.xxx.xxx |
Well (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2024 12:44 AM Message:
Depending on rain fall could install a large storage tank then use that to supplement well where use the rain water first then use well water. --216.110.xxx.xxx |
Well (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2024 7:28 AM Message:
We have 21 properties. Three of them have two houses on one well. Only one of them has ever given us a problem, and they are all "bored 24" wells), so not very deep. Probably 30-40' with 15-20' of water.
The one we have the occasional problem, we installed a large accessory tank under the house (trailer in the yard).
I like bored because they tend to have clear water. Drilled can have the "iron/rusty" water, one of which we have and it even stinks like rotten eggs. I have always had lower rent on that house because of it. A system to correct is 5-6k with ongoing salt expense. --216.126.xx.xxx |
Well (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2024 10:34 AM Message:
When I had my new septic installed the well guy replaced my pressure tank and tested the flow.
I don't remember how long he did it but I was getting a consistent 5 gallons per minute.
Lost the well at my last house. It was an ordeal to get the new one in because of the trees that had grown since the first well was installed.
Had a rental close to the river that would go dry very fast. The tenants wanted the place so much they put up with it for years before they actually bought it from me. Knowing what little I know now I think the well wasn't deep enough. It also sucked sand pretty bad.
Besides my place I only have one rental with a well now.
Correction, I just bought the new place and it has a well too. I just hope it is good. Only half a mile from me and this is supposed to be a good location for water. --107.147.xx.xx |
Well (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2024 2:38 AM Message:
Ken,
Some thoughts if they mean anything...
Locally, well water is polluted by animal and farm chemical run off so one must have a filter for drinking/cooking. Purity testing is common and necessary.
FHA required we move the well inside the footprint of the home to qualify for a buyer's loan.
Health Dept required it be XX feet from the septic distribution box, tank, and finger field.
A few years back we had a big flood, hitting 600 homes. That event changed the underground aquafers so we had to drive the wells deeper. Not hard, just a few hours each.
BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx |
Well (by Ryan24 [MD]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2024 9:03 AM Message:
5 gallons a minute is a lot for a yield test. Generally around us, if your well can recover at 1 gallon per minute, that is a decent well. Meaning if it will consistently run at a gallon a minute that is good. This is because when the pump calls for water, it only runs for a minute or 30 seconds while it pumps up the pressure tank. This allows the well to recover and draw more. I have a low yield well at my own house (30-45 minutes of a garden hose runs it dry) But I have never had any issue from regular household use daily. --73.135.xx.xxx |
Well (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2024 4:08 PM Message:
Easy solution for an underperforming well .... put a holding tank between the well and the house water.
They never run out ... regardless of the well performance.
Ask me how I know. --198.168.xx.xxx |
Well (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 26, 2024 7:34 AM Message:
I am with Ryan on this 1 gal a minute.
You fill a 5 gal bucket in 5 minutes.
I would be measuring the static water level before drawing any water. I would also measure the bottom of the well. I would then measure the diameter of the well casing head. This will give what you need calculate the the volume of the well.
Wells shouldn't run dry in 45 minutes time of running. If you have one that does, then you need to price out the cost of drilling down deeper. It used to be $10 a foot so it is probably closer to $12-15.
When you drill down, make sure you drill just below JACs well --24.101.xxx.xxx |
Well (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 26, 2024 8:18 AM Message:
Ray,I have an easier solution, no rentals on wells.The 5 gallons a minute for 1 hour is what the well guy said the banks require,i see no sense to use anything that is less of a requirement than the banks want in order to finance it --45.55.xxx.xxx |
Well (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Sep 26, 2024 2:49 PM Message:
To the question of anyone have a well run dry- my son’s house did, so he and his roommate rook showers at work for a few days, used bottled water. Then it rained, so the water is back. They had very low snowfall last winter, so that makes sense.
They are 100 miles from nowhere up in Alaska, so I doubt corporate interests were at work.
JAC for some interesting viewing on refilling wells, watch Youtube videos of Dr Alan Savory on regenerative farming. That man knows how to bring back the water. Its not how much water ( or carbon) we take out of the ground, its how much we don’t put back. --172.59.xx.xxx |
Well (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Sep 27, 2024 9:14 AM Message:
Back in the early 90's I worked for a crew that built a house with a water source heat pump.
The boss said it would be the most desirable in the area because it pumped the water out onto the ground. Always pumping. Made a nice little oasis for the critters.
He also said that he figured they would be outlawed in a few years because they pulled so much water out so fast. Now they are all in loops. I sometimes wonder if that system is still in place, but not enough to drive out there to see. --154.47.xx.xxx |
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