windows (by melinda [MD]) Sep 21, 2024 9:04 PM
windows (by plenty [MO]) Sep 21, 2024 9:11 PM
windows (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 21, 2024 9:50 PM
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windows (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2024 9:04 PM Message:
Putting a rental on the market for sale. Asked 2 realtors to look at the house and give me an idea what needs to be done. Both said that I need to put in new windows. They are original 1969 windows, What are your thoughts on this? Should I take the plunge? --69.161.xx.xx |
windows (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2024 9:11 PM Message:
Certainly your buyer would appreciate new windows. What are the current windows like... Wood? Open easily? --172.59.xxx.xxx |
windows (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2024 9:50 PM Message:
STOP! Wait! and read on:
Just putting in new windows is like putting a band-aid on a wound, does not guarantee things will improve unless you use the right type of band-aid and cleanse the wound first.
The same applies to windows. I've seen it all. Here are a few examples:
Installing top of the line windows that are rated for insulation, helping with the heat and a/c. But no one bothered to install insulation in the walls, ceilings and attic. So the windows, costing $10,000 only improve the R-factor by 5%, not reducing the heating and cooling costs.
It would have been better to blow insulation in the walls, ceilings and attic, then fix the windows to close and seal and putting reflective layers on the glass of the windows.
Or having the installed do a piss poor job, not buying the right sized windows to fit in the spot when the old windows are removed-- then filling the gap with lumber, spray foam and anything that will make it fit pretty.
When I was tasked to do an actors compound, I showed the family that just going by the old window size and not removing the molding and gauge the true opening will result is a terrible job.
A picture window over the piano was sized wrong 4 times by four contractors. So I had to remove the new $7,000 window. Cut open the stucco and drywall and re-frame it all over again to fit that new window. Otherwise the heat would rise and escape around the new install.
Also one client allowed her son-in-law to have the new windows installed. I advised using Double Hung windows, they went with single hung saving 30%. But since the top panel could not open, any one standing up would pass out from the locked in heat. The ceilings were 9 feet tall but when the single hung window was open, it only reached up 4-1/2 feet. --173.205.xxx.xxx |
windows (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2024 10:13 PM Message:
Windows are one of those things people see when they come see it so it is more likely to help the sale then insulation or a new furnace.Is the whole house renovated? if yes then windows may be worth upgrading if you can do it or hire a reasonably priced handyman.How bad are the windows to look at? You may want to sell as is and offer a kickback for the windows which in reality may allow someone closing costs which they may not be able to afford otherwise --208.115.xxx.xx |
windows (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2024 10:18 PM Message:
Do the math.
How much would it cost to replace them?
How much would it increase the sale price? (& the Agent's commission)
How long will it take? Add in the extra holding costs.
Hassle factor - do you want to oversee the work?
I bet the house could sell as-is, at the right price.
As long as they are in good, operable condition with no peeling paint.
You "might" sweeten the deal, during negotiation, to offer a concession to help the buyer replace them with windows THEY CHOOSE & like. --72.218.xx.xxx |
windows (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2024 11:11 PM Message:
Better off as a concession IF the buyer brings it up. If the rest of the house is in move in ready condition and no renovation is necessary then it might provide a bounce. But if other things look dated then it's like sliced bread, nothing special. --172.59.xxx.xxx |
windows (by Oreo [WI]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2024 12:01 AM Message:
Long ago, I remember the first time I walked into a rental and was told the windows had been replaced with energy efficient windows. I had never seen them before and went up to examine them. To the common eye, they looked like an ordinary wood window. They were vinyl, with a wood look, matching the unreplaced window trim surrounding them. I was impressed so much so that I swore and budgeted that my properties would have energy efficient
windows and they would match the surrounding woodwork.
Today,with so much focus on energy efficient everything and rising energy prices,new windows would be a great selling feature. You may want to ask a few Realtors their opinion on what to do in today’s market. Other options to provide a monetary concession toward windows are valid. But several experienced realtors can tell you which appear to be occurring more often.
Robert J: You are so right about the correct insulation and installation. I’m not sure the average home buyer knows much about windows unless they had it done before. Even then they may be unaware of how it should be done and other home projects to consider along with new windows.
--75.11.xx.xx |
windows (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2024 7:02 AM Message:
I like to replace windows on houses that I am keeping mainly for safety and functionality. But you are selling.
Figure $500 a window and a day or day and a half to install. Makes a pretty quick and not too messy upgrade.
I am not sure of your market and the type of house you have. It really depends on how bad you want to sell, how concerned you are about the selling price, etc.
Chances are, if you spend $10,000 on windows you will not get that back in the selling price. It might sell quicker but not for more.
You are going into the slow season. Very few buyers are around during Oct, Nov, Dec, and January. Historically I have bought houses during this time because they are cheaper and the sellers more flexible. --65.188.xxx.xxx |
windows (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2024 8:04 AM Message:
I wouldn't replace. They can bring it up in negotiations. Not worth doing it as it will probably not be cost effective for you. --73.230.xxx.xx |
windows (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2024 10:29 AM Message:
I’m in Florida. I have sold multiple houses in the past few years. Some I replaced old windows in and others I did not. My realtors always said it is not worth upgrading as long as the current ones work.
I have to say in our market it probably didn’t matter either way. But in the one we did the replacement it made the house look so much better and we pretty much did a full upgrade of everything. We had multiple offers over asking price. What we did run into is the appraisal then came in lower than the contracted price. But that also happened on one of the ones we didn’t upgrade windows on as well. --75.89.xxx.xxx |
windows (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2024 12:14 PM Message:
Suppose you spent $10k to put in new windows. Would you get $20k more in your sales price if you had brand-new windows? If I can double my money for what I put into it, then it's worth it. If not, they get a cheaper house because the windows are suboptimal.
Once upon a time, I was looking to buy a house. It was a $20k house on a street full of $20k houses, but the mom had put in a $60k kitchen. Then she died, and left it to her children. They were trying to sell it for $80k. But it wasn't an $80k house--- it was still a $20k house with a really nice kitchen.
Sometimes improving things before you sell it makes sense. Other times, you're making things nice for someone but it doesn't really increase the value proportionately. Figure out whether a window upgrade will increase the value to be worth the effort, or if the house will stay the same price as it was before-- but now it has really nice windows. --137.118.xx.xxx |
windows (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2024 12:33 PM Message:
Agents love to recommend upgrades that will make a house easier and faster to sell, but that do not increase the sales price. You get the same money, but they get their commission faster --76.178.xxx.xxx |
windows (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2024 1:25 PM Message:
I will chip in on waiting for the window replacement until it is negotiated in on the sale.
As long as they work and are not a big safety concern I do not see the replacements bringing in more money than you spend.
Many here have it right when they suggest adding in the replacement cost after an offer is made. --107.147.xx.xx |
windows (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 1:19 AM Message:
Now to upgrade windows looking at triple plated with low E Glass which is going to be expensive. The buyer maybe reluctant for a break even on sale. Ever considered once the agreement expires to try to sell private where then can see if the buyer is willing to pay more. Next step is upgrading insulation. Once in while get calls from real estate looking for listings where now when interest drop there is going to be buyers entering market. Look at comparable houses then check out what is offering. In a sellers market then buyer will have accept reality. --216.110.xxx.xxx |
windows (by Just Tim [AR]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 8:44 AM Message:
Look around the neighborhood. Do most of the other houses have new windows? What about the homes in the neighborhood that have sold recently? --68.1.xxx.xxx |
windows (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 12:38 PM Message:
A 2023 Zillow article says window replacements have a poor return on investment. On average, seller can expect to recover only about 65% of their investment. --107.141.xx.xxx |
windows (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Sep 23, 2024 1:26 PM Message:
I concur with Deanna. new windows are a selling point and will add to sales price. these are 1969 windows so I think are single pane & thin glass. when energy was cheap. energy efficient windows is a big plus. --166.198.xxx.x |
windows (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 25, 2024 10:02 PM Message:
Around me, ordering replacement windows is going to take about eight weeks. So eight weeks from now puts you in putting the house up about Thanksgiving time frame. Do you think that is a good idea? I know that isn't a good time for sales around here. --24.101.xxx.xxx |
windows (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Sep 27, 2024 10:35 AM Message:
i'd run the house to mkt ASAP. with rates still above 6% that cash can be allocated to closing costs or a rate buy down that will grease the deal far more than windows. --76.176.xxx.xxx |
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