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Lied on Pre-screen (by WMH [NC]) Sep 13, 2024 9:23 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by Jason [VA]) Sep 13, 2024 9:51 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by WMH [NC]) Sep 13, 2024 10:30 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Sep 13, 2024 10:33 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by jonny [NY]) Sep 13, 2024 2:05 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Sep 13, 2024 2:14 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by RB [TN]) Sep 13, 2024 4:09 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by WMH [NC]) Sep 13, 2024 4:18 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 13, 2024 6:14 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Sep 14, 2024 3:36 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Sep 14, 2024 3:38 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 14, 2024 11:54 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Sep 14, 2024 12:28 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by Pat [VA]) Sep 14, 2024 2:02 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by Oreo [WI]) Sep 14, 2024 9:06 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by zero [IN]) Sep 15, 2024 7:36 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by WMH [NC]) Sep 15, 2024 9:03 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 15, 2024 9:29 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by zero [IN]) Sep 15, 2024 1:27 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 16, 2024 12:12 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by 6x6 [TN]) Sep 16, 2024 10:37 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by zero [IN]) Sep 17, 2024 9:10 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by Wmh [NC]) Sep 17, 2024 10:28 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by Wmh [NC]) Sep 17, 2024 10:29 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by Wmh [NC]) Sep 17, 2024 10:29 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 17, 2024 11:20 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 17, 2024 11:20 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by zero [IN]) Sep 18, 2024 9:39 AM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 19, 2024 11:55 PM
       Lied on Pre-screen (by zero [IN]) Sep 20, 2024 9:05 AM

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Lied on Pre-screen (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2024 9:23 AM
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Showed upcoming availability yesterday. Just 3 prospects. 1st was meh (had non-neutered dog) 2nd was great but had three dogs. We told her first was free but $50 for the other two. We'll see.

3rd was not good but we showed him anyway. Then we were discussing the process and I asked about his dog. He says she is a German Shephard (not good.) I asked about spaying ("You said she was spayed?") and he hesitated and said he had hoped to breed her "rare blood line" (absolutely not) which is what, exactly? Like 2% Red Wolf. Sure, sure, I bet. Absolutely not. An idiot I do not need for a tenant.

He seemed quite ticked and left mad. I was mad because he wasted our time. He was last, we could have closed up earlier.

I checked the Pre-Screen to see how he got through, and he specifically wrote YES to the spaying/neutered question. On double-checking, so did the first couple! So they lied too. Grr.

Oh well it only takes one. We'll see. --173.28.xx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2024 9:51 AM
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If they lied, I wouldn’t have called them out on it. I would’ve encouraged them to apply and taken their liars tax, I mean application fee, with a smile on my face. --73.147.xxx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2024 10:30 AM
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I didn't call him on lying - I just said "Absolutely not!" when he said he wanted to breed her. Then I said, "I'm sure if you had checked she was not spayed on the Preview Questions we would have told you that." He didn't answer or fumbled an answer. Later I checked the sheet and saw he had written YES to the spaying question. --173.28.xx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2024 10:33 AM
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I would have had to say no to the German Shepherd right off the bat. On my insurance company's dangerous breeds list.

Require a spay neuter certificate along with applications. That helps to weed some of them out. Litters of puppies are extra destructive, so you just can not allow dog breeding.

As far as I can tell, they all of them lie about something or another. Maybe not on the application, but somewhere along the line. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2024 2:05 PM
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I showed one the other day and they seemed "fine". My pre-screen questions were answered and one of them is about pets. Stated they didn't have any.

Application comes in... 2 year old cat. I call her... she said "oh, yeah I probably answered no when we were talking about the screening questions because I don't have a problem with finding the cat a new place to live... I need a place to live".

Well, now they all need a place to live (wasn't about the cat necessarily - the credit was horrible).

I have another that is claiming they don't know anyone and they have no relatives. One of them is 41 years old yet he doesn't recall where he lived and apparently feels that he's "just popped on earth about 3 years ago". She is the same but is in her 30s. Yeah... ok --67.253.xxx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2024 2:14 PM
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More then likely the rental unit or house will be completely trashed out where the carpet, hardwood flooring along with walls will be damaged. If in apartment then apartment living is apartment living where they lock dog in then there is noise complaint. In six months to a year then count on spending a lot of money to bring the rental into living condition. --216.110.xxx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2024 4:09 PM
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Nothing is across the board = meaning all.

Raise your hand if you can see patterns of behavior

with tenants and dogs. --69.130.xxx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2024 4:18 PM
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I do not. I have some tenants with multiple animals and you'd never know it. Unlike my own home that too often has tumbleweeds of cat hair from our ginger cat blowing about.

My 15-year cat lady had 4 cats at one point and when she moved out we expected the floor under the carpet to be disgusting. It was but not from cats - just old dirt. Her house never smelled at all.

I have several tenants where we have to check the records to see if they have pets. Others...well, you just know... --173.28.xx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2024 6:14 PM
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RB, I do see patterns. The dogs are better than the humans. --76.129.xxx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2024 3:36 AM
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It's not so much the animals it's the lying about said animals. Earlier in the year I had a young couple that swore up and down that they didn't have a pet to my face during the tour and on the prequal. They also told me they could get out of their lease which had six more months on it.

And come to find out they were relying heavily on commission as well.

Their current LL said they sure do have an authorized dog and it's photos were all over

their social media. They finally came clean when it was too late. And no they were not being let out of their lease that they had a cosigner on. --64.246.xxx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2024 3:38 AM
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PS since I have done my automated email response on my Google forms prequal, I catch more people on "I only smoke outside" and you wouldn't believe the back pedaling when caught. --64.246.xxx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2024 11:54 AM
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Mapleaf18, I agree on the smoking. It's amazing how everyone smokes outside now. Leads me to believe that they have discovered their smoking is a problem for renting. --76.129.xxx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2024 12:28 PM
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My earlier post should read UNauthorized dog. --64.246.xxx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2024 2:02 PM
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I always think of Dr. House series, he used to say "Everybody lies." Lot of truth there.

I don't like it but I've let it pass a few times, if I thought it was in my best interest. --216.126.xx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by Oreo [WI]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2024 9:06 PM
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My tenant who "smokes outside only" really does. I've visited the property when no one knew I was coming to find her outside smoking. I think her parents did not allow it so she got used to it.When in her unit to do a repair, it is obvious she has not smoked in it. --75.11.xx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2024 7:36 AM
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I have one outside only smoker. In the winter she gets in her car to smoke. Apartment is in great shape and doesn't stink.

Way back in another life I smoked. Never inside since I got married because of a promise to the wife.

Volunteer fire department has a big LED sign and now it says "Only smoke outside".

Seems a little odd but I guess safety first? --107.147.xx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2024 9:03 AM
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My middle son is a smoker, much to my dismay. He has an actual smoking porch outside his house where one much join him if one want to visit with him. When he visits here, he sits on our deck the majority of the time.

He doesn't smoke in the house or his car - family's insistence. He has friends who smoke, too, and they hang out in said friend's garage.

I quit smoking 36 years ago. Yet I still am considered a "former smoker" on my medical records. --173.28.xx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2024 9:29 AM
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WMH, I foolishly used to smoke myself for a short period, but I also didn't smoke in my house. That said, it is a rare breed that don't smoke in their house. All smokers that I have ever met smoked in their house. --76.129.xxx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2024 1:27 PM
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I quit 24 years ago.

To this day I sometimes get a craving for one. I know that if I do it once I will be back to a pack a day instantly. --107.147.xx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 16, 2024 12:12 AM
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WHAT!?!? Hold the phone! Stop the presses! Alert the FBI!

An applicant LIED(Just a little humor!)

By actual count HALF our applicants lie about employment.

These are reasons we do not do in-person showings or pre-qauls. Pay the fee and do the full app.

1 approved out of 40 apps last month. That would have been a lot of showings based on pre-qual lies.

BRAD

--73.103.xxx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Sep 16, 2024 10:37 AM
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Brad, I think the pay the app fee before a showing might be specific to your area, because around here, people (FB) are telling others that if someone is requiring you to pay an app fee before viewing the home than they are scammers. So, that wouldn't fly here. --76.129.xxx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2024 9:10 AM
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I couldn't get anyone to pay the fee ahead of time either.

Supplied all the info that they could want and a lot of semi-decent pictures.

Dropped the pre-pay fee and got more hits and filled the place.

I could have let people self show the place before I got the app but I wanted to know a little about them before I let them run rampant thru my empty apartment.

I shall keep working on the perfect way to do it tho as I still spent time with a few deadbeats. --107.147.xx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by Wmh [NC]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2024 10:28 AM
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Yeah it's the waste of time. That's the issue. --174.225.xx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by Wmh [NC]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2024 10:29 AM
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Yeah it's the waste of time. That's the issue. --174.225.xx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by Wmh [NC]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2024 10:29 AM
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Yeah it's the waste of time. That's the issue. --174.225.xx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2024 11:20 PM
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Once upon a time *I* thought an app fee would push away customers so our's were free.

Not true. We got the same number of apps with a fee.

Check the big apt complexes in your area (nearby) for their fees, including animal fees.

I find Facebook posters tend to be negative about everything.

Know the whole Haitians eating pets thing started with a single (sarcastic) post online.

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 17, 2024 11:20 PM
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Once upon a time *I* thought an app fee would push away customers so our's were free.

Not true. We got the same number of apps with a fee.

Check the big apt complexes in your area (nearby) for their fees, including animal fees.

I find Facebook posters tend to be negative about everything.

Know the whole Haitians eating pets thing started with a single (sarcastic) post online.

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2024 9:39 AM
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Brad, do you allow them to tour physically the place before they pay for the app?

I kind of want to know who is walking around in there. Not too worried about squatters but I am concerned about people casing the joint, especially if it is a multi unit situation.

Am I being too paranoid? --107.147.xx.xx




Lied on Pre-screen (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2024 11:55 PM
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zero,

We post great photos and walkthru video, encourage them to do a drive by/look in the windows of vacant homes.

(we don't normally advertise occupied homes, just 'COMING SOON 3 bedroom near City Park $1195')

Yes, we START with their paid application. We might answer a few questions by text but every reply encourages them to review the website and apply for full consideration.

Once their paystubs and court records clear, we give them the lockbox code while we finish their app. All homes have the same code so they can see several.

We prep the home - shut off water and breakers to HVAC & stove, remove toilet paper & window ACs, tilt the blinds so they can see in and leave on an interior light or two.

Apts? Ours have exterior entrances, no shared halls so I don't mind them self touring.

These are the same people who would case the joint at your open house - but at least you have their info! :)

Like hiring, relax your grip a bit and enjoy a little more FREEDOM!!! personal safety, faster renting, and space in your life to grow your biz.

Works for me!

BRAD

--73.103.xxx.xxx




Lied on Pre-screen (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Sep 20, 2024 9:05 AM
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Thanks Brad for the input.

My multis are all duplexes and no shared halls. I do not have open houses either.

I will change my strategy for the next open. I provided pics and details for the last one but got nobody to pay the app fee.

Guess I have to train them before they are tenants. --107.147.xx.xx



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