After a visit to Home Depot yesterday.... To pickup two carbon dx detectors and two smoke alarms... My my. The price is crazy. Paid $20 each but there was a two pack for $129. For combo detectors. Code is changing, budget for upgrades, going to get expensive! --172.59.xxx.xxx

I ended up buying a 2 pack of just smoke detectors that require batteries at Walmart. I think Walmart is a bit cheaper than HD but not sure. I figure the units are supposed to be replaced after 10 years regardless. The debate is whether to may more for the detectors or more in batteries. Probably works out close to the same. As far as I know, I am not required to have the CO detectors, but I don't ask either. --76.129.xxx.xx

Should have been whether to PAY not may. --76.129.xxx.xx

I noticed that the three pack contractor kit that I used get wasn't available any longer too. I am glad I wasn't the only one that noticed that increase --24.101.xxx.xxx

I can't tell you what I am doing on Monday and they are asking about 12 years from now. Who knows if any of us will be around next year not to mention 12 --24.101.xxx.xxx

I've been using the 10 year battery non-wired smoke alarms for a while. I was in Lowes recently and they were just under $25 each. Went across the street to Walmart and they were $14. It surprised me how big a difference there was for the same product. Last time I looked the combo smoke/co 10 year battery are more pricey than buying a smoke and CO separately. Next time you are in wally-world see how much they are there. --209.205.xxx.xx

Here I just call the fire dept and they come by and install smoke detectors for free. They use the 10 year battery ones. You might call your fire dept and see if they have a similar program. --172.58.xxx.xx

I believe they will do this for the tenants but not for me as a landlord. Unless the house is empty. Worth a try. Thanks for the reminder! --172.59.xxx.xxx

What a crook of pooh!!! --65.188.xxx.xxx

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx

For a single family home with three bedrooms and basement... @$27 each... That adds up! --172.59.xxx.xx

it is better to install a electrical box near ceiling light fixture then you use a AC powered smoke alarm or smoke alarm with battery back up. The green light is lit then smoke alarm is working. If the battery is weak on Ac powered then the smoke alarm chirps. Everything has gone up a lot where now those costs have to be passed on in higher rents. A smoke alarm lasts ten years. Safety is something that should be cheaped out as that will prevent major damage. A better solution is to install Uponor pex than can install a sprinkler system so the fire is put out. --216.110.xxx.xxx

But then again I only have SFH's and dupes. When I built condos in the late 80's the four plexes didn't have sprinkler systems either. Well, except for the grass outside. --107.147.xx.xx

IronA residential Uponor pex piping uses a 1/2" pipe feed off the main water supply where here it is legal in single family houses not multi-residential. Iron pipe is too labour intensive to install where A type pex bends along with easy to install a plumber can install A type in commercial and residential. There is back flow, flow switch for a fire alarm, compressed air for a garage where a Uponor system is simple. All is required is the special expansion tool then connect along with transition to connect to copper. View some videos on You tube on pex sprinkler is installed. In the apartment building cut out plaster or drywall then installed a electrical box then connected up for constant power where not connected to light switch. Finally for insurance and safety a sprinkler system puts out the fire. I had sprinkler system in apartment building where the town never came around where had to have the central fire alarm system check once a year, fire extinguisher inspect and 10 year old replaced. When tenants set natural gas commercial gas clothes dryer on fire the fire alarm went off where there was not enough heat to open the sprinkler head. In residential apartment building the cost of safety must be passed in higher rents. Where if want to roll the dice then rent some illegal rental unit it may cost them there life. --216.110.xxx.xxx

So when I had a fire and lots of damage, I retrieved my recorder and resented it to the fire investigator. Proving the tenants remove them... --173.205.xxx.xxx

Our houses are exclusively electric so we don't need them. We have one garage and Tenants are not allowed to park there. --198.54.xxx.xxx

Thank you, WMH. --76.129.xxx.xx

210.3(7) Power source. a. In new buildings and additions constructed after July 1, 1991, required smoke alarms shall receive their primary power from the building wiring when such wiring is served from a commercial source. Wiring shall be permanent and without a disconnecting switch other than that required for overcurrent protection. Smoke alarms may be solely battery-powered when installed in existing buildings, or in buildings without commercial power, or in buildings which undergo alterations, repairs or additions subject to subrule 210.3(2). b. New and replacement smoke alarms installed after May 1, 1993, which receive their primary power from the building wiring shall be equipped with a battery backup. c. New and replacement smoke alarms installed after July 1, 2016, which receive their primary power from the building wiring where more than one smoke alarm is required to be installed shall be interconnected in such a manner that the activation of one alarm will activate all of the alarms. d. After June 30, 2021, a battery-powered smoke alarm listed in accordance with UL 217 that is newly installed or replaces an existing battery-powered smoke alarm must be powered by a nonremovable, nonreplaceable battery that powers the alarm for at least ten years. The battery requirements of this subrule do not apply to a fire alarm, smoke detector, smoke alarm, or ancillary component that is electronically connected as a part of a centrally monitored or supervised alarm system; that uses a low-power, radio frequency wireless communication signal. --64.38.xxx.xxx

eBay is your friend. Charge heavily for your replacement on these at turnover too. --24.152.xxx.xx