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deter smash & grab (by Chicago LL [IL]) Jul 9, 2024 3:38 PM
       deter smash & grab (by Larry [MN]) Jul 9, 2024 4:09 PM
       deter smash & grab (by Dodge [PA]) Jul 9, 2024 5:00 PM
       deter smash & grab (by plenty [MO]) Jul 9, 2024 5:14 PM
       deter smash & grab (by MikeA [TX]) Jul 9, 2024 5:17 PM
       deter smash & grab (by zero [IN]) Jul 9, 2024 7:32 PM
       deter smash & grab (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 9, 2024 8:38 PM
       deter smash & grab (by Chicago LL [IL]) Jul 9, 2024 8:44 PM
       deter smash & grab (by Chicago LL [IL]) Jul 9, 2024 8:47 PM
       deter smash & grab (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 10, 2024 1:31 AM
       deter smash & grab (by NE [PA]) Jul 10, 2024 7:18 AM
       deter smash & grab (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jul 10, 2024 7:52 AM
       deter smash & grab (by Chicago LL [IL]) Jul 10, 2024 12:25 PM
       deter smash & grab (by Busy [WI]) Jul 10, 2024 2:18 PM
       deter smash & grab (by Phil [OR]) Jul 10, 2024 5:31 PM
       deter smash & grab (by zero [IN]) Jul 10, 2024 6:30 PM
       deter smash & grab (by ken [NY]) Jul 14, 2024 10:02 PM
       deter smash & grab (by zero [IN]) Jul 16, 2024 9:22 AM

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deter smash & grab (by Chicago LL [IL]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 3:38 PM
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Hi fellow LL,

I rent out a condo to an elderly couple in their 60's who I love to keep. Last weekend, the husband let me know that his SUV parking in the condo parking lot got window smashed and stuff stolen. He asked for a security camera to be installed to prevent this problem from happening again. I brought this idea to the condo association. Nobody interested (it's a very small 8 unit condo building). I don't mind installing the camera myself to put an ease on their minds and (hopefully) deter future crimes. The parking is outdoor and only have a 4 foot retractable gate at the entrance. It's very easy for anyone to climb over. Do you guys think installing a camera would be a good idea (if so, what brand)? I'm afraid that if I don't do anything, the thief will come back and steal more. I don't want to lose this nice couple. What do you think? Please share your thoughts. Thanks.

--99.128.xxx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by Larry [MN]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 4:09 PM
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His window was smashed and his stuff was stolen because he left stuff out and visible. Tell him not to do that.

All a camera will do is allow you to watch it happen again. Highly unlikely you or the police would be able to ID anyone from a video. Most times they have hoods pulled up and often masks on. --172.58.xx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by Dodge [PA]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 5:00 PM
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I second all of Larry's points.

And add that police probably won't care. Even if they take a report, there probably won't be any restitution. --98.235.xxx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 5:14 PM
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I am on the condo board and we can not (or should not) allow camera in common area. Better check with your state laws and condo association. --172.56.xx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 5:17 PM
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Cameras are very ineffective at deterring crime. Criminals know that hoodies make them useless. Cops don't spend any time at all with the video on a low dollar (less than $5000) crime unless a gun is involved. They simply have better things to do especially when it is easily preventable by not leaving things in your car.

We had a criminal ring breaking into cars along our street, they broke in and stole some tools a couple of years ago. I bought a wireless door chime off of amazon for about

$30. I hooked the sensor on the inside of the truck door down low where it is out of the way and put the chime portion in my bedroom where my glock and I are at night. Once they open the door to the truck it sounds the alarm in the bedroom but they have no indications that it went off outside so I should get the drop on them. Fortunately, the police nailed the ring that was doing it and no one has tried to break in to my truck in the two years I've had that in place. I think it works really well, my wife hates it though. I sometimes go out super early to go hunting or have coffee with the guys and it wakes her up when I leave.

It's not as snazzy as a camera but it works 1000x better and is much cheaper. --209.205.xxx.xx




deter smash & grab (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 7:32 PM
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MikeA, you are in the best state for that. Here we can't go after a thief unless they put our lives in danger first. Stupid law in my opinion as my stuff is worth more than a dirtbag's life.

Anyhow, unless you get a really high end camera it will only alert you to the problem.

My suggestion would be to have lights installed after letting the tenant know not to leave stuff in plain sight.

I have cameras and lights at my place. Lights are dusk to dawn so I don't have to freak out when they turn on or off.

But of course the bugs set off the cameras all the time. --107.147.xx.xx




deter smash & grab (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 8:38 PM
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The last time someone was in my driveway and tried to steel something, I don't think they'll be back. --76.129.xxx.xx




deter smash & grab (by Chicago LL [IL]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 8:44 PM
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Thank you everyone for your reply.

Larry[MN], totally agree. That was the first thing in my mind when I read his text message. However I didn't say that to him (as blaming it's his fault). I also didn't want to appear as neglecting his request. I'll wait a few days to tell him what you said.

Dodge[PA], true

plenty[MO], good point. I just checked the law. Illinois doesn't have such law.

MikeA[TX], Yep agree with everything you said in the first paragraph. What a cool James Bourne wireless trick you did there :-) The thief on your street was very polite to open the door to steal.

zero[IN], the light idea is cool! Bugs set off the camera? I wonder if placing the camera a bit far away from the light would solve that problem. I have light and bugs at my rentals. They don't set off the camera because the light is a bit far away from the camera. Hence the bugs are too small to trigger the camera.

Ok I'll ask the tenant to not leave anything in the car. For the dusk/dawn light, I might need to check with the condo association. So far, they ignored my camera request... What do you guys think about asking the tenant to insall the car thief alarm? --99.128.xxx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by Chicago LL [IL]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 8:47 PM
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6x6[TN], I sure hope you're right. I had another break in incident almost 10 years at a different place. The thief came back the second time. I installed the camera because I high suspected that he was one of the neighbors. I just need the video to prove. Too bad, he must have noticed the camera high up and never break in the third time. --99.128.xxx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2024 1:31 AM
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Chicago LL,

Step one: leave nothing in sight.

Step two: my ex-cop son in law leaves his truck unlocked so they don't break his window.

Step three: remove the NRA bumper sticker that says ".45 inside"

Hopefully this was a one time random act.

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2024 7:18 AM
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Let him buy his own WiFi rechargeable camera and make it his problem. 2 screws to mount it. Give him the location and be done with it. --174.249.xx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2024 7:52 AM
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An empty shotgun casing would get my attention if I was worried about getting caught? --24.101.xxx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by Chicago LL [IL]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2024 12:25 PM
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Thank you everyone for your reply.

BRAD 20,000[IN]. I was wondering about leaving the car unlocked to prevent window breaking. Glad to hear that it's in one of your suggestions :-) I thought it was just my weird idea to leave the car unlocked.

NE[PA]. That thought came to my mind as well. However they're an older couple and probably a techie.

Ray-N-Pa [PA]. haha :) --99.128.xxx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2024 2:18 PM
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Might not be approved in a condo association, but after a break-in at a rehab I was working on ( furnace stolen) I spent some time researching security and one curious thing I came across was that pictures of people deters theft. Even though we can identify it as a photo, part of our brain says we’re being watched. How well did it work? Well, no more break-ins after that.

The pics were still up when I rented the place out, and the tenant says she loves having coffee with Snoop dog every morning as he looks out of the kitchen window.

Small thing, but, if it helps…. --172.59.xx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by Phil [OR]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2024 5:31 PM
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Had a friend that worked in a questionable neighborhood, drove a cherry classic convertible. He always left the top down --otherwise some thief would cut the rag top just to check out what was inside. --76.138.xxx.xxx




deter smash & grab (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2024 6:30 PM
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Bah... I think it is somewhere in Canada that they are telling their people to put their key fobs in a faraday bag but then put the bag next to the front door.

Keeps the bad guys from running thru the house looking for the fob.

At some point you need to say enough and start doing things to make it better, or at least tougher for the bad guys. --107.147.xx.xx




deter smash & grab (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Jul 14, 2024 10:02 PM
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zero- the day i need to lock my doors to my house is the day i move, i dont even have keys, went away for 10 days in february and never locked the house --74.77.xx.xx




deter smash & grab (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 16, 2024 9:22 AM
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I lock my doors, have a security system and have cameras up. I also have other things in place to assist me if they decide to come in while I am home.

I lock my stuff up to help keep honest people honest. If a crook wants something bad enough he will find a way to get it. Given enough time and balls.

My father didn't lock his doors. Been like that for as long as I could be aware.

Then he started locking them. Hmm. I finally asked why. Seems my nephew decided that he needed some of the coins and stuff my dad had laying around. If he had asked he would have been given the stuff. But alas, nearly 20 years later and they still do not talk. Plus he still locks the doors. --107.147.xx.xx



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