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Lies on App (by Pat [VA]) Jul 8, 2024 4:52 PM
       Lies on App (by Phil [OR]) Jul 8, 2024 4:54 PM
       Lies on App (by tim [CA]) Jul 8, 2024 5:13 PM
       Lies on App (by RB [TN]) Jul 8, 2024 5:29 PM
       Lies on App (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 8, 2024 5:33 PM
       Lies on App (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Jul 8, 2024 5:43 PM
       Lies on App (by Jason [VA]) Jul 8, 2024 5:56 PM
       Lies on App (by Bonanza [NC]) Jul 8, 2024 5:56 PM
       Lies on App (by Sisco [MO]) Jul 8, 2024 6:06 PM
       Lies on App (by ken [NY]) Jul 8, 2024 6:14 PM
       Lies on App (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Jul 8, 2024 6:19 PM
       Lies on App (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Jul 8, 2024 6:20 PM
       Lies on App (by Pat [VA]) Jul 8, 2024 6:24 PM
       Lies on App (by Jason [VA]) Jul 8, 2024 6:27 PM
       Lies on App (by Jim [CA]) Jul 8, 2024 7:34 PM
       Lies on App (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 8, 2024 8:06 PM
       Lies on App (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jul 8, 2024 9:13 PM
       Lies on App (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jul 8, 2024 9:14 PM
       Lies on App (by Pat [VA]) Jul 9, 2024 5:45 AM
       Lies on App (by Busy [WI]) Jul 9, 2024 7:41 AM
       Lies on App (by DonV [OH]) Jul 9, 2024 10:40 AM
       Lies on App (by jonny [NY]) Jul 9, 2024 12:45 PM
       Lies on App (by MikeA [TX]) Jul 9, 2024 3:14 PM
       Lies on App (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 9, 2024 3:26 PM
       Lies on App (by zero [IN]) Jul 9, 2024 6:49 PM
       Lies on App (by Pat [VA]) Jul 10, 2024 2:40 PM
       Lies on App (by Jason [VA]) Jul 10, 2024 2:53 PM

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Lies on App (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 4:52 PM
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Many years ago I had a gentleman apply and found out he was putting his GF down as his landlord. When I found out who the real owner was, she said she thought she knew why he had done that and he was a very nice person and we did rent to him successfully. However, the thought of a person lying on an application has always been a big turn off for me.

Today, we continued with work on our latest turnover/eviction. So maybe I'm more cautious than ever, I did reach out to prospect I had pretty much decided on (based on job,# of occupants,etc.) to give her an update. And she asked me, "So I have been approved?" I quickly told her I wanted to meet and talk to her and also still had to contact landlord. So when I tried to call her LL, it went to voicemail and no call back.

I decided to confirm ownership of property and it is out of state, could not do online successfully. I called the number and it confirmed my suspicions, not the owner.

I have googled name and gotten a phone number, waiting to see if real landlord/owner calls me. I doubt it.

So this girl has 2 dogs so potential for lots of damage. She does have a state job in kitchen of local prison (10 months), living in a camper 40 miles from job, so she's anxious.

I am really having second thoughts. But the other people I've had interested are so awful. Thoughts? Wait? --216.126.xx.xxx




Lies on App (by Phil [OR]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 4:54 PM
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pass --76.138.xxx.xxx




Lies on App (by tim [CA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 5:13 PM
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I passed on your candidate when you mentioned that they had 2 dogs. --73.2.xx.xx




Lies on App (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 5:29 PM
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Bingo, tim. --69.130.xxx.xxx




Lies on App (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 5:33 PM
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Can't verify LL (was it Sid you called, LOL), 2 dogs, living in camper, can't do 2 minute in home visit, possibly lied on app, works at prison. Does that help you think it over? --76.129.xxx.xx




Lies on App (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 5:43 PM
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Another vote for hard pass.

You can't make this stuff up sometimes.

Recent exchange on FB Messenger:

DQ: "Hi I was checking on the status of my application"

(editor's note, it's not an application yet; it's a prequal which it clearly states but who reads?)

Me: "You indicated that someone in your household vapes/smokes; this is a smoke free duplex" (me eyeing the "only smoke vape outside" response)

DQ: "I don't smoke or vape and neither does my husband"

Me: "Looking at your information, you have Joe and Judy in your household, and it indicates that someone "smokes/vapes only outside"

DQ: "So he can't smoke outside?"

(editor's note: so you're admitting you lied just two seconds ago?)

Me: "That is correct"

DQ: "Oh Okay, Weird"

(editor's note: I was tempted to response "actually it's weird that you just told me 5 seconds ago that no one smokes/vapes but now you're saying that your husband actually does smoke; but I refrained) --64.246.xxx.xx




Lies on App (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 5:56 PM
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Not enough info to make an informed decision, but with the limited amount of info, I would say pass. Less than a year on the job (what about job before that?), she’s living in a CAMPER, much less, with two dogs. And she lied on the app, that by itself should be an automatic dq.

If you accept pets, charge additional fees and deposits. People will pay them

--73.147.xxx.xx




Lies on App (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 5:56 PM
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I don't know about you LLs but on my application there is a place for references. The first one says Emergency Contacts - Friends or Family. The second section says Personal references - no family.

I like it when someone lists their mother. Moms will tell you everything about their kid. Ask questions. Are they neat, organized, clean, responsible? Do they smoke? Do they have pets? When he/she was kid did they have chores? Did they help around the house?

I also call their friends. Their friends know if they smoke and if they have pets. What kid of dog do they have? Oh a Doberman pit mix? Interesting!

--65.188.xxx.xxx




Lies on App (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 6:06 PM
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Pat, the applicant lied to you. For this reason alone; reject the application. --149.76.xxx.x




Lies on App (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 6:14 PM
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lied on app is DQ for me but you are saying they lied about landlord name and number? why would you even consider them? --74.77.xx.xx




Lies on App (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 6:19 PM
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Impersonating a former/current LL is a big red flag in my book. Auto DQ. So far only one person has pulled that stunt back when I was restarting into REI. I immediately detected it, contacted the REAL former LL from the tax rolls and he was deceived by her dimply smile.

She left him with lots of damage, unauthorized painting of wild colors and owning rent money. I gladly informed him of where she worked. Oh yeah and her BF burned down the last place they were in due to kitchen grease. --64.246.xxx.xx




Lies on App (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 6:20 PM
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Bonanza, around here there are nothing but "snowplowing" moms who pave their kid's way through everything. They would tell you to you face that their kid is Mother Teresa if it meant getting said grown brat into their own apartment. --64.246.xxx.xx




Lies on App (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 6:24 PM
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My point was: Some people actually don't believe they are lying when they put a roommates name down if they pay their half of rent (500.) to the roommate. The roommate could be leasing out room illegally, but none of that matters to them!

Just mulling it all over in my mind.

Have another employee of prison to talk to, but she has been there even LESS time than other one, and was referred by one of my tenants that already told me the girl used to raise dogs! So.......then there's that. --216.126.xx.xxx




Lies on App (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 6:27 PM
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If you’re only advertising on craigslist, it’s time to cast a bigger net. --73.147.xxx.xx




Lies on App (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 7:34 PM
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One piece of information that is not true is caused for immediately disqualifying. I have had a relative given as a landlord but it usually comes out when you ask some trick questions --198.44.xxx.xx




Lies on App (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 8:06 PM
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Jason raises a good point and Ray would probably agree, where are you advertising?

Who are you marketing too?

--76.129.xxx.xx




Lies on App (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 9:13 PM
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I will be closing an estate property on the 15th. So why did I pick up a 3 bedroom 2 bath 60 year old home this time of the year? This gives a very limited amount of to update and get it marketed to folks who will move into it? So why rush myself?

Who rents a place like that? Well since the school district is good and the high school is a quarter mile away, families with kids. So that is my niche.

If I am looking for a quality applicant, do I look for them after school starts the first week of September? I am inclined to believe the best qualified applicants plan to move and will be moved before that first day of school. So by establishing that niche customer, I can market accordingly to get the best qualified folks. After the first, I might get someone - but they didn't plan things out well. --24.101.xxx.xxx




Lies on App (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 9:14 PM
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FWIW, I plan on marketing to school facility --24.101.xxx.xxx




Lies on App (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 5:45 AM
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This is the worst property we have, age, size, type. 1986 14 x 48 singlewide, 2 bedrooms, one bath. Located in a wooded area, almost no lawn, about 9 miles from the nearest small town (Food Lion). It will never attract a professional person.

I would say it beats an apartment, or a trailer park because of more privacy but that's about it. It does have house windows and central air. --216.126.xx.xxx




Lies on App (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 7:41 AM
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What does your written and dated list of qualifications/ reasons for denial say? That is the place to look for the answer. --72.135.xxx.xx




Lies on App (by DonV [OH]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 10:40 AM
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About 95% of the time if I have to "talk myself into" renting to someone, or my gut is telling me no I regret renting to them. I would rather lower my price and find a good tenant. --66.29.xxx.xxx




Lies on App (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 12:45 PM
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I have on my rental applications:

"If any false or mis-leading information is provided this application will be denied."

The minute that I find myself in the situation that you are, I stop. If that's not on your application you should put it on. Make a note of what it is that made you stop and file it in your DQ folder. --67.253.xxx.xxx




Lies on App (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 3:14 PM
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Pass, and by the way that person has committed fraud. As a result, they can be charged with a crime (most prosecutors won't pursue it though) but you can also go after them in civil court for damages. --209.205.xxx.xx




Lies on App (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 3:26 PM
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One way to easily verify if they are property manager or landlord is call then ask if they any apartments, houses or condominiums for rent. If they do not then they are friend or relative. Another very common trick is to change one letter in surname where comes back no credit history. Check place of employment where phone book or interent where if not real then put rental application aside. In the ad will provide rental applications to all adults interested in rental unit or house. Before moving in utilities must in tenants name. Unpaid utilitles and unpaid rent goes hand in hand toghether. Now that vacancy rates are declining problem tenants are looking for keys not credit checks where those who handed the keys through the gates of hell have sold then no longer in the rental housing business. One lie strikes out end of story here. One bad applicant where the good applicant moves out or does not move then will rent arrears along with completely trashed out rental unit. --216.110.xxx.xxx




Lies on App (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2024 6:49 PM
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I am lucky right now I guess in that I do not have to settle.

Easy for me to say as I will be listing a place when I get back from the boot camp.

Had one application come thru when I first took the place back but they didn't have very long on the job and didn't fill everything out on the app. On the page where they get the download link it says that any false information or non complete apps could be cause for disqualification.

Ask me in three weeks if I feel the need to check with them again. --107.147.xx.xx




Lies on App (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2024 2:40 PM
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I was able to contact the reference and I asked first if they had been a roommate of my prospect? (She said no) After talking with her for a few minutes, I divulged that the property owner name & her name did not match, and she called the owners name and said she was a property manager.

She actually gave the girl a very good reference. So I am glad I called her again and did leave another message about why I wanted to speak to her.

I had just asked her to call me without saying why.

--47.133.xxx.xxx




Lies on App (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2024 2:53 PM
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I would have said “could you tell me how you know {property owner’s name}?”

That’s usually met with confusion. --172.56.x.xxx



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