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ESA Scam (by Doogie [KS]) Jul 5, 2024 5:57 PM
       ESA Scam (by Homer [TX]) Jul 5, 2024 6:15 PM
       ESA Scam (by RB [TN]) Jul 5, 2024 6:47 PM
       ESA Scam (by NE [PA]) Jul 5, 2024 7:03 PM
       ESA Scam (by Jim [CA]) Jul 5, 2024 7:04 PM
       ESA Scam (by WMH [NC]) Jul 5, 2024 8:10 PM
       ESA Scam (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 5, 2024 9:12 PM
       ESA Scam (by Dave [CA]) Jul 6, 2024 8:12 AM
       ESA Scam (by Dave [CA]) Jul 6, 2024 8:12 AM
       ESA Scam (by zero [IN]) Jul 6, 2024 8:55 AM
       ESA Scam (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Jul 6, 2024 10:31 AM
       ESA Scam (by John... [MI]) Jul 6, 2024 11:07 AM
       ESA Scam (by ken [NY]) Jul 6, 2024 11:11 AM
       ESA Scam (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jul 6, 2024 11:56 AM
       ESA Scam (by Bonanza [NC]) Jul 6, 2024 1:09 PM
       ESA Scam (by Still Learning [NH]) Jul 6, 2024 1:45 PM
       ESA Scam (by John... [MI]) Jul 6, 2024 3:55 PM
       ESA Scam (by zero [IN]) Jul 6, 2024 5:05 PM
       ESA Scam (by NE [PA]) Jul 6, 2024 5:37 PM
       ESA Scam (by zero [IN]) Jul 7, 2024 9:31 AM
       ESA Scam (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jul 7, 2024 8:12 PM
       ESA Scam (by RB [TN]) Jul 8, 2024 5:08 AM
       ESA Scam (by S i d [MO]) Jul 8, 2024 8:21 AM
       ESA Scam (by zero [IN]) Jul 8, 2024 9:01 AM
       ESA Scam (by bet [MA]) Jul 12, 2024 3:32 PM

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ESA Scam (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 5:57 PM
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Had someone tour a house today. Liked it and wants to fill out an app. First though, have a question. We have a husky, is that ok? I say I would have to check with my insurance company to see. I can't let a dog be there that they will cancel the policy on me for. They just text back and said "If your insurance carrier doesn't allow this breed, I am working on getting him registered as an ESA. Would this change anything?"

I can't with these folks!

1. This is obviously a scam, they pretty much are admitting it without saying it.

2. "Registering" the dog as an ESA is not how this works

3. Makes me nervous to even talk to them anymore. They seem like they will work around anything I tell them.

This ESA bull excrement has reached the point of full insanity. There's posts and videos all over the social media sites teaching these folks that "your landlord can not legally tell you no anymore, here's how!" There's facebook groups dedicated to teaching these folks how to scam the system.

ESA's can be a legit thing. I know a few folks that this was true for. Funny thing is, these folks did nothing for their pets. Did not put on the "registration" list, did not get a doctor's letter, nothing. They just had their dog around them and took care of it. One even told me they couldn't understand how I did it with all the ESA scams going on.

Ok, sorry. Carry on with your day now. Have a good weekend!

--45.17.xxx.xxx




ESA Scam (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 6:15 PM
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I too am sick of the ESA games. Tried renting one all of May. Most everyone I talked to had an ESA. I got sick of it and listed the house for sale. One of the people that claimed ESA ended up buying it for over asking. I will now clear more per month with the cash sitting in a 3 year cd at 5 percent apy. As they come vacant I will sell. --66.169.xxx.xxx




ESA Scam (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 6:47 PM
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Welcome to the Sellers Club, Homer.

It's dog crazy out there. --69.130.xxx.xxx




ESA Scam (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 7:03 PM
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I had one and I wonít take another one. Donít care what the rule says. Same goes for all woke & weakening rules going forward. --24.152.xxx.xx




ESA Scam (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 7:04 PM
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You donít register your ESA, you get a medical professional determine that you need an ESA. --23.162.xx.xx




ESA Scam (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 8:10 PM
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I allow one friendly animal. Seem like that stops the ESA'ers because I get very very few who mention them and they usually flunk out for other reasons. --198.54.xxx.xxx




ESA Scam (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 9:12 PM
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NE seems to have the right attitude. Tenants are getting by with this because LL's are scared. --76.129.xxx.xx




ESA Scam (by Dave [CA]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 8:12 AM
Message:

Require renters insurance from all tenants

Require tenants with animals to have their animal endorsed in writing on the renters insurance policy for DOMESTIC ANIMAL LIABILITY COVERAGE TO POLICY LIMITS

Be aware and prepared for most animal tenants to go away --67.49.xx.xxx




ESA Scam (by Dave [CA]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 8:12 AM
Message:

Require renters insurance from all tenants

Require tenants with animals to have their animal endorsed in writing on the renters insurance policy for DOMESTIC ANIMAL LIABILITY COVERAGE TO POLICY LIMITS

Be aware and prepared for most animal tenants to go away --67.49.xx.xxx




ESA Scam (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 8:55 AM
Message:

I like the idea of the renter's insurance including the animal.

Unfortunately most of my tenants do not have renter's insurance. As a matter of fact one that did have it lost her job and that was the first thing they dropped.

I always had it back when I rented but times seem to have changed. --107.147.xx.xx




ESA Scam (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 10:31 AM
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You can be DOGGONE sure that BLUE states and cities will OUTLAW the mandatory tenant insurance for animals under the ESA crapola. --64.246.xxx.xx




ESA Scam (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 11:07 AM
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My guess is that, under federal law, it already is not allowed.

I doubt you can require additional insurance for someone with a Service Animal. Same applies to ESAs when it comes to housing.

Good luck with that.

--75.128.xxx.xxx




ESA Scam (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 11:11 AM
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Zero- times have changed but you can still see patterns in people at a young age who will and will not be homeowners, you had renters insurance,my long term tenants never have it, in my area red cross shows up and puts them in a hotel and gives them a gift card with $300 on it and they do a go fund me and that is considered good by low income type people --74.77.xx.xx




ESA Scam (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 11:56 AM
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What you send back it that you welcome emotional support animals. That according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an emotional support animal is any animal that provides emotional support alleviating one or more symptoms or effects of a personís disability.

To qualify as an emotional support animal and be allowed into my unit, your dog will need the proper documentation from the mental health professional that is treating your mental or emotional disability. --76.178.xxx.xxx




ESA Scam (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 1:09 PM
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Donít worry about the animals at this point in time, approve or disapprove the people as per your screening process if they have a USA or service dog go through your protocol of approving or not approving it --174.203.xxx.xxx




ESA Scam (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 1:45 PM
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John MI - If you require ALL tenants to have renters insurance and ALL tenantís animals to be notated on the renterís insurance, then shouldnít that be ok? --73.159.xxx.xx




ESA Scam (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 3:55 PM
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Oregon Woodsmoke: That is a good way to handle such things, yes.

Still Learning: Yes, I believe that is correct. That if you require ALL tenants to have renters insurance with all animals specifically named on those insurances, then my understanding is that that is acceptable.

The problem is if you don't allow pets. If you don't allow them at all, then when you say that "all animals" have to have it, you clearly just mean all Service or ES Animals. And that can lead to at least an argument that you are discriminating against just those animals.

But, yes, if you are a pets-allowed place and have requirements for ALL renters and ALL animals, then I think you are ok with that.

--75.128.xxx.xxx




ESA Scam (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 5:05 PM
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ken, I need to set up a go fund me when a tenant trashes a place.

Genius idea! --107.147.xx.xx




ESA Scam (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 5:37 PM
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Zero, name the go fund me after the ex tenant. The Donald Smith disaster relief fund. --24.152.xxx.xx




ESA Scam (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2024 9:31 AM
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That is epic! --107.147.xx.xx




ESA Scam (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 7, 2024 8:12 PM
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Smiles - Some people are walking disasters --24.101.xxx.xxx




ESA Scam (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 5:08 AM
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Immaturity and a lack of real life experience. --69.130.xxx.xxx




ESA Scam (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 8:21 AM
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All calls go to voicemail... to be returned at my convenience. Let's see.... press '1' to save, press '7' to delete.... Whoopsies, pressed 7.

*wink

--184.4.xx.xx




ESA Scam (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 9:01 AM
Message:

Fat Fingers is a protected class. --107.147.xx.xx




ESA Scam (by bet [MA]) Posted on: Jul 12, 2024 3:32 PM
Message:

My advice is you don't show apts to people who haven't completed an application 1st. Then you would have seen the dog listed. --68.66.xxx.xxx



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