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Happy Independence Day (by RichE [IL]) Jul 4, 2024 11:49 AM
       Happy Independence Day (by plenty [MO]) Jul 4, 2024 1:42 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by Gene [OH]) Jul 4, 2024 3:48 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by KB [MS]) Jul 4, 2024 4:32 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by zero [IN]) Jul 4, 2024 5:31 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 4, 2024 6:51 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jul 4, 2024 7:37 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Jul 4, 2024 9:18 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by NE [PA]) Jul 4, 2024 10:42 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by NE [PA]) Jul 4, 2024 10:53 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by S i d [MO]) Jul 5, 2024 8:10 AM
       Happy Independence Day (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Jul 5, 2024 9:12 AM
       Happy Independence Day (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Jul 5, 2024 9:30 AM
       Happy Independence Day (by Chicago LL [IL]) Jul 5, 2024 9:33 AM
       Happy Independence Day (by Allym [NJ]) Jul 5, 2024 12:08 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by tim [CA]) Jul 5, 2024 2:00 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by tim [CA]) Jul 5, 2024 2:01 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by NE [PA]) Jul 5, 2024 2:47 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 5, 2024 4:49 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by Allym [NJ]) Jul 5, 2024 6:14 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by 6x6 [TN]) Jul 5, 2024 8:26 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by NE [PA]) Jul 5, 2024 8:34 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by Tim [CA]) Jul 5, 2024 8:48 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by NE [PA]) Jul 5, 2024 8:51 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 5, 2024 9:35 PM
       Happy Independence Day (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jul 6, 2024 9:50 AM
       Happy Independence Day (by KB [MS]) Jul 8, 2024 1:59 PM

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Happy Independence Day (by RichE [IL]) Posted on: Jul 4, 2024 11:49 AM
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Happy Independence Day to all you LLs seeking their own independece or as Brad 20K calls it FREEDOM!!!!

--94.140.x.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jul 4, 2024 1:42 PM
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Freedom rings here! --172.59.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by Gene [OH]) Posted on: Jul 4, 2024 3:48 PM
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Remember the elections are not that far away and we need to vote to make sure we keep our freedom. Many in this country seem to want to lose their freedom by giving all of their responsibilities to the government. Freedom is for a self-reliant and moral people. --65.60.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by KB [MS]) Posted on: Jul 4, 2024 4:32 PM
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Freedom rings! Vote to keep our freedom and democracy. Think long-term. Say no to the candidate who tried an overthrow and promises a dictatorship. In a democracy, you will always have the opportunity to replace a leader that you don't like every 4 years. Once a dictatorship starts, you, your children, and your grandchildren will never again see a free election. --84.239.xx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jul 4, 2024 5:31 PM
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Freedom here as well.

Even though I spent a few hours at the rehab today. My part time help was gone so I could pull the toilet and not have to worry about it.

Repaired the floor under it, prepped the wall behind it for primer and am hoping to knock some stuff off my list in the morning.

Not like I was doing anything during the day anyhow.

Small parts of Freedom sometimes makes it all okay! --107.147.xx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 4, 2024 6:51 PM
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Being president of the Us affects the whole world. Where history has shown that never ever give into a dictator. If all goes well in the war Ukraine then Putin will be out showing other dictators not invade other countries. What this invasion has taught us having a strong military is more important than ever. Having alliances that makes the world stronger. The shoot down helicopters and planes where reverse engineering is applied to learn out to defeat a hostile power. What happened in the second world war where they took over the Skoda plant in Czech capital then 50 per cent of the tanks came from that plant to invade other countries. I never though in my lifetime there would be a war in Europe. Finland and Sweden now that is NATO lake where Russia can be blocked off. Putin would like to able to use military equipment from the Skoda plant where now that is not possible. They blew up a ammunition dump where two people died in the Czech republic. Now most countries are on one side or another where no more neutrality. Independence is a democratic government not a dictatorship like Russia, China, North Korea or Iran. Hopefully another country where it becomes a dictatorship does not happen. --207.236.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jul 4, 2024 7:37 PM
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Freedom is not free --24.101.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jul 4, 2024 9:18 PM
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KB its a constitutional republic not a mob democracy. I couldn't disagree with you more. --64.246.xxx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 4, 2024 10:42 PM
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Vote and act local and forget the rest. Real Americans will take care of themselves. --24.152.xxx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 4, 2024 10:53 PM
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Here, for all you freedom lovin’ folks who HAVEN’T read it. Pay close attention to the facts presented to the candid world:

WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public Good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing Importance, unless suspended in their Operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the Accommodation of large Districts of People, unless those People would relinquish the Right of Representation in the Legislature, a Right inestimable to them, and formidable to Tyrants only.

He has called together Legislative Bodies at Places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the Depository of their public Records, for the sole Purpose of fatiguing them into Compliance with his Measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly Firmness his Invasions on the Rights of the People.

He has refused for a long Time, after such Dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the Dangers of Invasion from without, and Convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the Population of these States; for that Purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their Migrations hither, and raising the Conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the Tenure of their Offices, and the Amount and Payment of their Salaries.

He has erected a Multitude of new Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harrass our People, and eat out their Substance.

He has kept among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the consent of our Legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a Jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution, and unacknowledged by our Laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all Parts of the World:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us, in many Cases, of the Benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended Offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an arbitrary Government, and enlarging its Boundaries, so as to render it at once an Example and fit Instrument for introducing the same absolute Rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all Cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our Seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our Towns, and destroyed the Lives of our People.

He is, at this Time, transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the Works of Death, Desolation, and Tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and Perfidy, scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous Ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized Nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the Executioners of their Friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions we have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble Terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated Injury. A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the Ruler of a free People.

Nor have we been wanting in Attentions to our British Brethren. We have warned them from Time to Time of Attempts by their Legislature to extend an unwarrantable Jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the Circumstances of our Emigration and Settlement here. We have appealed to their native Justice and Magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the Ties of our common Kindred to disavow these Usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our Connections and Correspondence. They too have been deaf to the Voice of Justice and of Consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the Necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of Mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace, Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly Publish and Declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, Free and Independent States; that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political Connection between them and the State of Great-Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

Signed by Order and in Behalf of the Congress,

JOHN HANCOCK, President.

--24.152.xxx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 8:10 AM
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One could just as easily say both sides are not interested in Freedom. The guy with the R next to his name may have spoken about a dictatorship, but the guy with the D next to his name belongs to a party that taxes us to death.

Which one did we rebel against in 1776? Correct answer: BOTH!

The only thing worse than the political shenanigans we have to put up with today is both sides thinking the other side's guy is the devil and their guy is the saint. Nope, they're BOTH devils.

--184.4.xx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 9:12 AM
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I'm seeing MUCH more dictatorship from the current regime than under 45. Bureacracy and regulations exploded, no criminal prosecution of BLM and antifa for burning down cities. A crack addicted son involved in all kinds of conflicted business dealings which involved his daddy.

The so-called 34 counts of felonious business records or nothing but up on ship pardon the pun, trumped up crap.

People have to stop watching CNN Fox MSNBC and the like. Morning Joe is particularly atrocious.

And yes all politicians stink because they're in there to feather their own nests and forget about the people they represent. Which is exactly why we need more business people in charge and not failed career attorneys. JMO --172.58.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 9:30 AM
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Also the explosion of actual real crime despite the fact that the cities are hiding it aka cooking the books and the mainstream media covering it all up by not reporting the skyrocketing crimes including all of the illegal aliens coming in.

And then there is inflation where everything cost two and three times more than it did 4 years ago due to the terrible energy policies trying to destroy the petroleum industry and Institute a pipe dream that is not ready for prime time. All due to terrible policies of the current regime. I will take a few Mean Tweets any day. ³ --172.58.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by Chicago LL [IL]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 9:33 AM
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Happy the 4th everyone! Yeah I'm late but it's better than never :-) --99.128.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 12:08 PM
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you have it backwards. KB or should you have a middle initial I would say it might be G, KGB --173.61.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by tim [CA]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 2:00 PM
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Google project 2025 to see what may be in store. --73.2.xx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by tim [CA]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 2:01 PM
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KB has it right.

Say no to the candidate who tried an overthrow and promises a dictatorship. In a democracy, you will always have the opportunity to replace a leader that you don't like every 4 years. Once a dictatorship starts, you, your children, and your grandchildren will never again see a free election --73.2.xx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 2:47 PM
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Which candidate tried an overthrow? --24.152.xxx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 4:49 PM
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The founding fathers who set a democratic system is why the Us today is most powerful military in the world where during the second world war they taught the German Pow democracy as they knew one day the war would end where they went back to Germany where over time they realized a free independent press, radio along with a court system so everyone would receive fair treatment. If there is chaos then the people will become divided where a divided country is a weaker country. Then military takes over then the free press ends along most of rights are taken. While everything is not perfect it is better than what happened at White House. Independence meant once for all there were no longer any Kings and Queens. The alliance is very important in world where China said they are ganging up on us. If people admire Putin then they should consider moving to Russia where soon they receive a AK 47 to go and die in Ukraine. The ending of Putin in the world will one less dictatorship to worry about where China, North Korea and Iran will be weaker. History shows when there is crisis people work together where things become better. Many nationalities are in Ukraine fighting against the brutal regime. --207.236.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 6:14 PM
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The one that is there now succeeded in an overthrow. --173.61.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 8:26 PM
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NE, I see some similarities from then till now. --76.129.xxx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 8:34 PM
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You should see an astonishingly high amount of similarities between then and now. --24.152.xxx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by Tim [CA]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 8:48 PM
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Except there as zero evidence of vote tampering in more than 50 court cases, many of those cases judged by trump appointees, plus Rudy and many others are losing everything because of their lies. --73.2.xx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 8:51 PM
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I don’t care either way, but it’s funny that it’s STILL just another TDS sufferers typical response when asked a question, “Yeah, but Tru-mp!” I’m still interested in hearing what overthrow you’re talking about. --24.152.xxx.xx




Happy Independence Day (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 5, 2024 9:35 PM
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In order to have democratic there needs effective opposition not someone is focused on becoming a dictator. Victor Orban went to Ukraine for peace plan where Russia needs to withdraw all forces to former borders with Ukraine to 1991. WW 3 is possible if they give into Putin. The world is like a chess game where you eliminate higher pieces first where China, North Korea and Iran will have less influence in the world. The opposition would be better dumping a lier and completely dishonest person where the party goes back to its roots. --207.236.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jul 6, 2024 9:50 AM
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No one wants a peace for all time like Hitler wanted before taking over the Skoda plant in Czechosolavkia where all the tanks were used to invade other countries. Why would most powerful military in the world give to the demands of a brutal dictator like Putin where the corrupt Russia is running out money and other resources to continue this war with the west. A leader of a country must put the country first not personal ambitions of being leader forever. Dictatorships are most the corrupt countries in the world where there is no way to eliminate corruption but minimize corruption. If you have uniform in Russia then you are on take where stealing fuel, guns and whatever for the country then selling. The invasion exposed when the trucks went into Ukraine the cheap tires from China were blowing out. Running a military is complex operation where food, equipment and tactics make a huge difference on which side wins. Putin now is desperate for a peace deal that keeps him in power. When Russia collapses that is going to show some other dictators days are numbered. Overthrow of a democratic system is not going to any different that what happened in Germany where people are going to die than there is going a police organization to arrest people. It took six months in Germany to become a dictatorship. Like Russia corruption in Germany was there where no checks and balances. --207.236.xxx.xxx




Happy Independence Day (by KB [MS]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2024 1:59 PM
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Mapleaf you are right that its a constitutional republic and not a mob democracy. It is BOTH a constitutional republic and a representative democracy. Congress followed the Constitution in certifying the election results.

Read the Constitution. Article II Section 1 of the Constitution describes how the President shall be elected. Congress followed the Constitution in certifying the previous election.

Article II Section 1 of the Constitution states that a President shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:—"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." Only one candidate has ever attempted an overthrow by inciting a mob to prevent the installment of his successor as President. He broke his oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

S i d No one likes paying taxes. Both sides have about the same record of taxation. Google it. The top federal income tax rate was between 63% and 94% for 50 years between 1932 and 1981, when it dropped below 70%. It was as low as 28% only from 1988-1990, with the tax cut taking effect just before an election. It has been a comparatively low 35% to 40% for the past 30 years, under both R and D. Both R and D were in power in the very old days with above 70% taxation for top earners. The average U.S. federal income tax rate across all income levels is 27% compared to other countries with an average tax rate of 34%. The landlords posting here have a mix of incomes, some average and some at the top, but probably averaging 27%. For the past 30 years, neither R nor D moved the needle up or down a full 5%. The memory of those 3 fleeting years of 1988-1990 of 28% taxation makes everyone think that there taxes will be low with R. You are right that neither side is a saint.

Allym The middle initial is not G. You can do better than that.

NE Thanks for posting the Declaration of Independence. What did you read in the Constitution?

Allym What did you read in the Constitution?

NE The D is TDS runs both ways. T had my support when he was in office. I supported his right to legally protest any election results that he thought unfair. Is that a TDS sufferer? No one said “Yeah, but Tru-mp!". They shared history and viewpoints, same as you.

Does anyone else see the similarity to a non-cooperative and aggressive tenant who refuses to vacate after they have been given notice that their lease is not being renewed, and the tenant calls in his housebeater mob friends to vandalize the House, and then whines that the landlord is unfair because "I didn't do it"? Should he have have been made to pay for the repairs to the Capitol and all legal costs, just like a tenant gone bad? For anyone who jumps straight to ridicule and name calling about others on T and then complains about house beater tenants or tenants that break your rules. This will be playing in the back of your minds whenever you have to deal with those kinds of tenants, even if you never admit it to yourselves or anyone else. Hmmm.

Hope everyone enjoyed the 4th of July holiday weekend and took time out to appreciate the liberties of our country.

--84.239.xx.xxx



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