Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 1:01 PM
Bum magnet house (by ken [NY]) Jun 17, 2024 1:17 PM
Bum magnet house (by Sisco [MO]) Jun 17, 2024 1:45 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 1:48 PM
Bum magnet house (by Sisco [MO]) Jun 17, 2024 2:07 PM
Bum magnet house (by GKARL [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 2:29 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 2:31 PM
Bum magnet house (by WMH [NC]) Jun 17, 2024 2:34 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 2:37 PM
Bum magnet house (by Sisco [MO]) Jun 17, 2024 3:29 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 3:39 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 4:19 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 4:20 PM
Bum magnet house (by MikeA [TX]) Jun 17, 2024 5:00 PM
Bum magnet house (by zero [IN]) Jun 17, 2024 5:00 PM
Bum magnet house (by Sisco [MO]) Jun 17, 2024 5:03 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 5:08 PM
Bum magnet house (by WMH [NC]) Jun 17, 2024 5:11 PM
Bum magnet house (by ken [NY]) Jun 17, 2024 5:16 PM
Bum magnet house (by GKARL [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 5:18 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 5:52 PM
Bum magnet house (by WMH [NC]) Jun 17, 2024 5:54 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 17, 2024 5:57 PM
Bum magnet house (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Jun 17, 2024 7:28 PM
Bum magnet house (by 6x6 [TN]) Jun 17, 2024 7:31 PM
Bum magnet house (by Allym [NJ]) Jun 17, 2024 10:07 PM
Bum magnet house (by S i d [MO]) Jun 18, 2024 10:10 AM
Bum magnet house (by WMH [NC]) Jun 18, 2024 3:49 PM
Bum magnet house (by ken [NY]) Jun 18, 2024 4:40 PM
Bum magnet house (by Just Tim [AR]) Jun 18, 2024 7:55 PM
Bum magnet house (by Oreo [WI]) Jun 18, 2024 9:25 PM
Bum magnet house (by Allym [NJ]) Jun 19, 2024 1:43 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Jun 19, 2024 3:31 PM
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 1:01 PM Message:
Years ago on here I did a post about house nicknames, and I remember somebody saying that they have one that they called bum magnet. Who was that? I think it was Brad. I think that I officially have one I could call bum magnet. My family calls it the mountain house, but I think it’s about time to rename it. Gorgeous view, $250,000 plus property and all it attracts is nothing but bums.
--174.249.xx.x |
Bum magnet house (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 1:17 PM Message:
maybe it is time to sell,everything will sell right now --74.77.xx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 1:45 PM Message:
How much does the bum magnet rent for?
Criminal bums? Non payment bums? Filthy bums? Be more specific, bum covers a lot of possibilities. --149.76.xxx.x |
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 1:48 PM Message:
Just the same one I’ve been griping about. 3br avg $1350. I started $1295 in February and have dropped and dropped since. Down to $1,000 and nothing. Credit, criminal eviction, combative. Typical reasons to decline. Can’t give it away. --174.249.xx.x |
Bum magnet house (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 2:07 PM Message:
I know I won’t convince you, but your description of your lease up struggles confirms my belief that Landlords can’t rely solely on the zillows and must work to drive internet traffic to their site. --149.76.xxx.x |
Bum magnet house (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 2:29 PM Message:
Time to sell. --209.122.xx.xxx |
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 2:31 PM Message:
I don’t rely solely on Zillow. I advertise with a company that pushes out to probably 20+ sites. --174.249.xx.x |
Bum magnet house (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 2:34 PM Message:
I agree with Sisco. If we relied on Zillow we'd be empty. I still list on CL and sometime Zillow but I drive traffic through Facebook - that's where people are looking, even young people.
But if the house would sell for $250k but only rents for $1k - sell it.
(I don't understand why a big house with a beautiful view is attracting undesirables: what else is going on with it??) --173.28.xx.xxx |
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 2:37 PM Message:
I don’t know WMH. I rented one last week to the first person who viewed it. Perfect app. Breathe of fresh air. The house is a little less than half of the size of this one, no view on a small little side street in a junk town with heavy truck traffic. For $800. The house I’m trying to rent is so much nicer than the one that rented. Private, views, size, etc. I don’t get it. (I don’t use just Zillow) --174.249.xx.x |
Bum magnet house (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 3:29 PM Message:
In my area, ads are ran that have prices way under market price…..people assume these ads are scams, and they are correct, usually the pictures are from a house from another city/state.
Could be that your ads don’t look legitimate. --149.76.xxx.x |
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 3:39 PM Message:
Sisco, I don’t know how that is. The apps that come in are after they view the house. I’ve probably had 80 showings. --174.249.xx.x |
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 4:19 PM Message:
Here’s kind of where I’m looking at with the house. The one I just rented for 800, I didn’t raise the rent on it at all. The tenant that moved out, moved in in November or December. Paid the early termination and left. The one that I can’t rent, was paying 1200. For two years! I listed at 1295, which was still below market, but probably where the departing tenant should have been. Now it’s been seven missed rent payments totaling $8400. That’s $700 a month. I could’ve listed it at 500 a month and definitely rented it. So when the market is above, what I’m asking and I can’t get substantially below what is asking, make that makes sense to me? it doesn’t make any sense. Maybe what I should do, is what everybody on here says to do and raise the rent to above market and just collect endless application fees. What difference does it make? Not rented is not rented. --174.249.xx.x |
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 4:20 PM Message:
Actually, I should clarify, the one that I just rented for $800, I didn’t even look at my comparables to what the market was doing. I just re-rented it for what the previous tenant was paying. After the run I just had with this one that won’t rent, I didn’t care what the market said. --174.249.xx.x |
Bum magnet house (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 5:00 PM Message:
There's something to staying right down the middle of your market.
On the low end I have gotten rid of everything that I would consider C- and below. Life's too short to deal with that cesspool.
The higher end is just as bad. If you have a house priced just out of the reach (or desire) of the average tenants within a neighborhood all you get are bums. I sold a big 3000 sqft 4 bedroom house in a nicer B neighborhood. It was significantly overbuilt for the area, mostly smaller 3 Br 1960's ranch houses, usually around 1400 sqft. Everyone liked the house but it priced out above what the neighborhood would bear so I always struggled to find a qualified tenant. Also, for some reason 4 bedrooms brings some strange applicant groupings and those tend to become unstable over time.
When you find yourself with such a property it usually means you need to cull the herd. Keep the good ones and reinvest into a property that has a better tenant pool less problems which equates to higher returns. Stay right down the middle of your best marketable properties, your bread and butter, for the highest returns. --209.205.xxx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 5:00 PM Message:
That is an odd one for sure.
Why did the last tenant leave? Is there something about the place that makes people cringe?
I only have one place with a nice view, and it isn't that nice.
Being in a run down part of a run down state I would think there is something else that you are missing. Maybe blinders from being too close? Care to send a link to one of your listings? Maybe someone outside can see a potential problem?
--107.147.xx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 5:03 PM Message:
NE, your ad looks like a scam to the good tenants. You will never hear from them. Let alone receive an application. --149.76.xxx.x |
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 5:08 PM Message:
Sisco, how so? I rent all the other units the same exact way. Typically much quicker. --24.152.xxx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 5:11 PM Message:
NE I think raising the rent to attract tenants is old advice. We all raised rents over the past few years to so-called "market" or thereabouts and I don't think there is much more room for increases unless wages get raised - and they are stagnant. At least in my market.
People are still begging for housing - but they need housing they can afford.
Not that I think your price of $1295 is unaffordable, or shouldn't be, at a potential $250k sell price.
SOMETHING ELSE is going on. Wish I knew what. --173.28.xx.xxx |
Bum magnet house (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 5:16 PM Message:
if it is worth $250k any chance you should be asking $1800? --74.77.xx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 5:18 PM Message:
NE, I find all of this very cautionary. Everyone's experience may differ based on their specific market. I experienced much the same earlier this year. In part, this may be related to the size of the rental also. Bigger places tend to be harder to rent in my experience. Not sure if that applies here. It's bad when even discounting the rent produces no qualified applicants. Do you talk to other landlords in your area? What's their experience? --209.122.xx.xxx |
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 5:52 PM Message:
Ken, that would be $400-$500 above comps. I don’t trust comps much other than just giving me an average. So who knows, I think the competition just pull numbers out of their a$$. Who knows that they actually end up getting. My units ALWAYS end up renting for less than the market comps, always. Doesn’t matter if it’s A grade or D. GKarl, the tenant pool is terrible. --24.152.xxx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 5:54 PM Message:
Gkarl is right about size. Our tiny houses rent before we can even begin to worry. We only have a few larger ones (and I mean 3 bedrooms, not giants) and one we rented to an existing tenant without ever advertising it - we listed their tiny house instead - and they are still there at the "big" one.
And one we removed a bedroom and we list it now as a bonus room: office/guest/game room. We actually got rid of the closet from the bedroom side and turned it into a hall closet for linens or storage. --173.28.xx.xxx |
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 5:57 PM Message:
It’s not huge. It’s basically a 2 bedroom that has a large addition that could either be a 3rd bedroom or a family/rec room. So it goes either way. Maybe next rent drop, I’ll change as to a 2 bedroom and price it that way and see that happens. If that works, I’ll advertise it as a 2br from here on out. --24.152.xxx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 7:28 PM Message:
Bums have bougie tastes I've found. Ye olde "champagne tastes on a beer budget." Fear not as I just received two promising applicants over the last few days. It was a barren desert there for a while. --64.246.xxx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 7:31 PM Message:
I agree advertise as 2 bedroom. Also, a lot of people are work from home now, so advertise with office or could be used as 3rd bedroom.
I also don't think you should call it Bum Magnet House because then it surely will attract nothing but bums. Bless the house and call it something else. Maybe, Beautiful Mountain Home? Or, Charming Hill Top House? Dear Lodge? Animals Retreat? Scenic View Home? --76.129.xxx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 17, 2024 10:07 PM Message:
You answered your question when you said that the house was below a price point " I listed at 1295, which was still below market, but probably where the departing tenant should have been". When I have looked at rentals to check prices I pick a certain amount of money to use for a search term. That's what people do. They get an idea of what a "nice" house would rent for, what the one they would want would rent for. Then they use that amount. So it looks like you have priced yourself below the "nice" point where "nice people" would show up to look and apply. But if you are not attracting "nice" people to apply then something is wrong in the house. So I would search what is available and find the "nice" properties and see what they are listed for. Then I would list mine for that. If it's a three br but one is really substantially smaller that causes a problem in the family so you may want to drop it to two plus office or den. --173.61.xxx.xxx |
Bum magnet house (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2024 10:10 AM Message:
$1000 rent on a $250K house? Yikes! Love ya, NE, but that SUCKS!
Sell that clunker and invest in t-bills. You'll make more with less aggravation. 5% ROI on $250K is $12,500 per year... more than you'd get renting and no repairs, taxes, or insurance.
SELL!
--136.179.xx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2024 3:49 PM Message:
OR try one more time - same price of $1295, but lose a bedroom and add a BONUS home office. I just want to see what happens so it's just me being curious. --173.28.xx.xxx |
Bum magnet house (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2024 4:40 PM Message:
I want to see what happens at $1800 month --74.77.xx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by Just Tim [AR]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2024 7:55 PM Message:
NE, I had a similar situation some time back where I was only attracting the absolute worst of the worst and lowering the rent wasn't helping. I took down all advertising for 2-3 weeks and reposted at my original pricing with a few minor tweaks to the ad and it rented. Lowering the price isn't always the answer. I like WMH's idea of advertisng it as a 2 bedroom with an office. Are there any other changes you can make?
Who have been your best tenants there and what did they like most about the place? --68.1.xxx.xxx |
Bum magnet house (by Oreo [WI]) Posted on: Jun 18, 2024 9:25 PM Message:
We advertise our two bedrooms as one bedroom. We advertise our three bedrooms as two bedrooms. I get more and better applicants. I might not make as much, but that is not my concern. I want a life. And I'm not chasing money; I'm chasing peace of mind.
You can try the ideas above and report your results with each ad.
Or sell and reinvest while the market is hot.
Disclosure: I used AI to rephrase a sentence. I like my sentence better, but I kept the AI in. A waste of my free AI for today.
--75.11.xx.xx |
Bum magnet house (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2024 1:43 PM Message:
That was my idea, two br. plus office.. --173.61.xxx.xxx |
Bum magnet house (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2024 3:31 PM Message:
I like the idea of under promising and over delivering. I may start trying the one less bedroom --174.249.xx.xxx |
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