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Unreasonable Estimate (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Jun 10, 2024 7:48 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by 6x6 [TN]) Jun 10, 2024 8:29 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by 6x6 [TN]) Jun 10, 2024 8:42 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Jun 10, 2024 8:49 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by Robin [WI]) Jun 10, 2024 10:16 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by Richard [MI]) Jun 10, 2024 11:06 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jun 10, 2024 11:27 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by zero [IN]) Jun 11, 2024 8:35 AM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by tryan [MA]) Jun 11, 2024 9:32 AM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by Sisco [MO]) Jun 11, 2024 10:11 AM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by WMH [NC]) Jun 11, 2024 10:12 AM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Jun 11, 2024 11:30 AM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by Robert J [CA]) Jun 11, 2024 2:26 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by ken [NY]) Jun 11, 2024 6:36 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by ken [NY]) Jun 11, 2024 6:36 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by MikeA [TX]) Jun 12, 2024 12:27 AM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by zero [IN]) Jun 12, 2024 10:07 AM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by Nicole [PA]) Jun 12, 2024 11:55 AM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by MikeA [TX]) Jun 12, 2024 5:12 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by Nicole [PA]) Jun 12, 2024 10:28 PM
       Unreasonable Estimate (by tryan [MA]) Jun 14, 2024 9:02 AM

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Unreasonable Estimate (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jun 10, 2024 7:48 PM
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I just received an estimate to install an asphalt driveway approx 800 sq feet for $10K. This was a "company" that had cheap biz cards and no reviews on the web. I looked at some of the recent cost estimators and it should be no more than around 5K for this area. I think these guys think we are rich (not sure why they think that, our vehicles are extremely modest) And this is in a low end C to C- area.

Guess we will be putting that project on hold. Gravel driveway it is!

--64.246.xxx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jun 10, 2024 8:29 PM
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Get more estimates. --76.129.xxx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Jun 10, 2024 8:42 PM
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How much for concrete? --76.129.xxx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jun 10, 2024 8:49 PM
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6x6 Have no idea. Although DH is an expert on concrete as he once worked as a foreman for a major global concrete company and has poured much of his own, he's getting older now and doesn't any more physical labor than he already is doing.

We don't want to go any higher than 5K. Concrete is usually more expensive than asphalt. --64.246.xxx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Jun 10, 2024 10:16 PM
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I'm a big fan of crushed limestone. Over time, the limestone dissolves and resolidifes and I get a surface like concrete at a fraction of the cost. Plus it's super easy to "repair" with a shovel, a bucket of stone, and a watering can. --104.230.xxx.xxx




Unreasonable Estimate (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jun 10, 2024 11:06 PM
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Around here concrete is about 6 to 10 dollars a square foot, which I think is a ripoff price. Asphalt I wouldn't want to pay more than 2 dollars a square foot. Either of these would, of course have a minimum price but that estimate for asphalt is pure ripoff, in my opinion. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Unreasonable Estimate (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jun 10, 2024 11:27 PM
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Tiny note: you want crushed stone. I get mine WITH powder so it solidifies and stays in place.

Gravel (think river rock) is round stones that move around under foot or tire.

I am fine with stone drives. The city uses #9 stone for alleys.

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




Unreasonable Estimate (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jun 11, 2024 8:35 AM
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In my area concrete is taxed higher than asphalt is.

Makes no sense as you have to seal asphalt after a while, thus using more resources.

Cement is a lot more expensive. Oil kills asphalt. Salt kills cement.

I had my upper drive drug out and reset with new stone and dust. Had a section where a big hole was come back. They pulled it out, set heavy stone in the bottom and recovered it. Going good for now. Still have sprouts of green come up. I hit them once, but they are persistent.

Nothing lasts forever. --107.147.xx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Jun 11, 2024 9:32 AM
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I just got a quote for 1928 sq ft .... $7k --198.168.xx.xxx




Unreasonable Estimate (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jun 11, 2024 10:11 AM
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I wouldn’t expect to get any contract bids that weren’t very high nowadays. In fact, if you were to get a low price you should be wary. Low bidders aren’t working cheaper, they are cutting more corners. --149.76.xxx.x




Unreasonable Estimate (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jun 11, 2024 10:12 AM
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We can't do concrete drives here - well you can but if you do it goes against your overall lot coverage because it is impermeable which is bad for everyone. We use "Crush-N-Run." --173.28.xx.xxx




Unreasonable Estimate (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jun 11, 2024 11:30 AM
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WMH, We call that "Crusher Run" in various sizes. --64.246.xxx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jun 11, 2024 2:26 PM
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When I was in my early 40's, most of my contractor friends were pushing 60. The owners no longer did the work themselves, they had employee's for that purpose. Instead the owners only went out to issue estimates.

One friend had two crews with independent tools, trucks and equipment.

That day a small city wanted a bid to pressure was the entire downtown area. Three square blocks. The City had it's own pressure washing machine and 1 employee, who took six months for that one city employee to do the job. By the time the city was done, it has had already been subjected to months of abuse and needed to be redone.

So knowing the facts and having my friends crews fully scheduled for weeks, my friend issued a DOUBLE ESTIMATE for the work. His way of saying he did not want the job and was too booked to do it anyways.

The City was shocked, thinking this guy was so good he could get the job done within 1 week. And accepted the job at double a reasonable price.

My friend then asked me to borrow half of my employee's, my equipment, generators, pressure washers, light trucks, etc. Not for that job but for the jobs his current crews was in the middle of.

In those days, 25 years ago, his bid was $37,000 for 3 square blocks, a 1 week assignment. This two crews did the job in 1-1/2 days. My crews worked on his other two jobs so those customers won't know what was going on.

BY doubling the price on all jobs he didn't want in the future, he managed to secure more more then ever before. He ordered another fully loaded work truck for 100 grand. Now he was pulling in an extra million dollars by over estimating the price. --47.155.xx.x




Unreasonable Estimate (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 11, 2024 6:36 PM
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I have a contractor friend who used to bid very high,he did a good job but bid high, he said he was convinced some people liked to brag about how much they paid to have a job done --74.77.xx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 11, 2024 6:36 PM
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I have a contractor friend who used to bid very high,he did a good job but bid high, he said he was convinced some people liked to brag about how much they paid to have a job done --74.77.xx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jun 12, 2024 12:27 AM
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We've started using crushed asphalt which is generated by the the paving contractors when they groove the pavement prior to a city/state job. Delivered in a dump truck just like stone.

It is great because the chips still have tar on them and it packs and solidifies during the summer as it gets hot and melts. It ends up looking rough like stone but bound together like asphalt. It is classified as permeable stone in my city so it doesn't count against the "runoff" fees. --209.205.xxx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Jun 12, 2024 10:07 AM
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MikeA, have you noticed any tracking with that?

I had an area I wanted to stone. Thought I would use the ground asphalt instead but the hauling company said that if it was an area where we would walk thru it would drag a lot of the tar and such on our shoes.

Ended up just doing stone because of that. Maybe I should have talked to more people first? --107.147.xx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jun 12, 2024 11:55 AM
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I am a huge fan of same thing MikeA mentions - here we call it asphalt millings.

I've used it for several years instead of what I had used for years, the fine stone w/powder that we call "crusher waste". I have not had any problems with it "melting" or tracking. --98.237.xxx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jun 12, 2024 5:12 PM
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We had a little tracking the first year when the temperatures got over 100 degrees but I threw out a few buckets of sand across it and have had no more problems. The bigger problem seems to be stones that work their way loose over time.

As I mentioned it tends to solidify but the top is rough. As a result, some of the top stones work their way loose under heavy traffic so you end up with spots that are more like loose gravel than tight asphalt. That's ok, but they tend migrate outside of the designated area just like gravel does. --209.205.xxx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jun 12, 2024 10:28 PM
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We had ours REALLY compacted. He went back and forth over the entire areas I can't tell you how many times. He's gone over them again several times. Now, it is rock solid. --98.237.xxx.xx




Unreasonable Estimate (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Jun 14, 2024 9:02 AM
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Can the "crusher" stuff stand up to the winter snow plow? --198.168.xx.xxx



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