doorbells (by 6x6 [TN]) May 15, 2024 9:57 PM
doorbells (by NE [PA]) May 15, 2024 10:00 PM
doorbells (by OREO [WI]) May 15, 2024 10:32 PM
doorbells (by OREO [WI]) May 15, 2024 10:37 PM
doorbells (by RB [TN]) May 15, 2024 11:20 PM
doorbells (by ken [NY]) May 16, 2024 12:19 AM
doorbells (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) May 16, 2024 12:51 AM
doorbells (by plenty [MO]) May 16, 2024 7:27 AM
doorbells (by zero [IN]) May 16, 2024 8:12 AM
doorbells (by Jason [VA]) May 16, 2024 8:23 AM
doorbells (by Vee [OH]) May 16, 2024 8:32 AM
doorbells (by Vee [OH]) May 16, 2024 8:46 AM
doorbells (by Robin [WI]) May 16, 2024 9:21 AM
doorbells (by Busy [WI]) May 16, 2024 9:57 AM
doorbells (by Vee [OH]) May 16, 2024 12:09 PM
doorbells (by Nicole [PA]) May 16, 2024 3:19 PM
doorbells (by tim [CA]) May 16, 2024 5:54 PM
doorbells (by 6x6 [TN]) May 16, 2024 7:05 PM
doorbells (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) May 16, 2024 9:04 PM
doorbells (by 6x6 [TN]) May 16, 2024 10:12 PM
doorbells (by Small potatoes [NY]) May 16, 2024 11:36 PM
doorbells (by zero [IN]) May 17, 2024 9:03 AM
doorbells (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: May 15, 2024 9:57 PM Message:
Do any of you know anything about wired doorbells?
I have no experience with them until now. The house that I am working on has one and it is having problems. When I first tried it, it worked for about one or two times and then it quit working. I checked the electrical connection, and it started working again, but then it would quit again. I don't know how old it is, but the house is outdated from the 70's. I will assume it is around that age. It seems if I undo the wire in the electrical box, sometimes it will arc and other times not. I kept thinking that maybe it was not getting a good connection, but it should be. Besides, it will work for a time or two and then quit, and during that time, nobody is messing with the electrical connection.
I don't know the names of all the parts, but is there a way to test them?
Thank you for your time. --76.129.xxx.xx |
doorbells (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 15, 2024 10:00 PM Message:
Gone. Rip it out. --24.152.xxx.xx |
doorbells (by OREO [WI]) Posted on: May 15, 2024 10:32 PM Message:
The only experience we have had is with the doorbell. In our unit there is a doorbell box where it rings. Ours goes out sometimes; our house is from the 1920's. We find that the contacts develop rust or sediment on them. THis can be cleaned with fine sandpaper or aluminum foil. Once they are back to a shiny metal and put back together. For the doorbell you push, take the doorbell off and expose the wires. Brush them off, use tin foil and rub the bare metal of the wire, then put it back together. Sometimes I've found fuzz and just blown it out, but if you find a bit of rust follow those instructions. --75.11.xx.xx |
doorbells (by OREO [WI]) Posted on: May 15, 2024 10:37 PM Message:
Off the subject, but you can clean the ignitor and thermocouple of a furnace similarly. I've been told you can use sandpaper, but I've been able to clean it with a crisp $1 bill. You can sand it too hard with sandpaper unless you use a very very fine.
Parts accumulate stuff on them over time.
--75.11.xx.xx |
doorbells (by RB [TN]) Posted on: May 15, 2024 11:20 PM Message:
Knock, knock. --69.130.xxx.xxx |
doorbells (by ken [NY]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 12:19 AM Message:
I know enough to tell my guys remove it and get a battery operated one next trip to home depot --74.77.xx.xx |
doorbells (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 12:51 AM Message:
6man,
Doorbell? What's a doorbell? My folks are installing their own front door video cams!
BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx |
doorbells (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 7:27 AM Message:
Could be the push switch ? We've had those go bad. So sometimes it will chime when pushed and otherwise times not. They are like $12-15 nowadays. Consider replacing the chiming box on the inside wall too. $100 bucks later you'll have a ringing doorbell... Who's there!? --172.59.xxx.xxx |
doorbells (by zero [IN]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 8:12 AM Message:
I put two wired buttons at my new place. Then later on a Google doorbell. I love the concept but the unit I have is flaky.
Check or just replace the push button itself. Those go out the easiest as they are in the elements more. You can check the transformer easily with a meter. Same with the bell itself.
I am so happy that I have a wired system in place. No more replacing batteries or having to take it offline so I can charge the thing up again.
Tap the two wires together at the button and if it works every time then you have the fix. If you plan on holding this house I would suggest making sure that your transformer is strong enough to run a wired cam like Google or Ring. Older units won't push enough juice to do it. Your new tenants will appreciate the fact that you have a doorbell that will do what they need. --107.147.xx.xx |
doorbells (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 8:23 AM Message:
There’s the chime and transformer, either of which are a regular fail point. I’d just replace them both (they’ll come in a kit together). Chimes will burn out if the button is held down for too long.
The solid 18awg wire used to connect them is extremely fragile, it could be an issue with the wire itself, but I’d start with the chime --73.147.xxx.xx |
doorbells (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 8:32 AM Message:
OK, lets hope this post holds. The wired doorbells we used to ring especially in Late October disguised a many, other people or animals are really pretty simple, When I was restoring my family places I made it a point o have these simple things all functional, a pair of wires on a door just like the flaps of a 727 or pick your favorite hydralic airfoil flyer, the concept is the same, the switch sends a closure when the flap is up - or down, lights the cockpit light (or rings a bell in the kitchen) planes use 24VDC, doorbell uses 16VAC, furnace uses 24VAC so some interchangability when you scrap out an old furnace. And Ring uses the same 16VAC, 2 wires at each door button location need a closure to send the signal along to the kitchen ringer - ringer has 2 sliding rods that bump the metal ringer - the front has 2 chimes - 1 up and 1 at rest, ding, dong. the transformer that converts 110 to 16 VAC takes 1 wire from each button location, the other button wire goes to the electromagnet for the dual or single ring. using your Volt-Ohm meter look for 16VAC at the transformer then again at the button, if you have it at the button then the ringer is good and you just need a closure to ring the bell, before you put the button back a light dab of vaseline will prevent moisture from creating corrosion when the dew point is crossed moisture is formed so the airlines use sealed switches as the dew point is crossed twice on every flight and co-pilots need to observe the flaps position going up or down safely. Now get your goody bag and yell Trcik-or treat when you test the doorbell, Ring will accept your image too so try last years costume first. at my place you could get a candy bar or a ice cream bardepending on the dew point. --184.59.xxx.xx |
doorbells (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 8:46 AM Message:
A note on multi-meters, the settings showing a wiggly line are for the AC (alternating current) test setting furnace power or doorbell wiring, flat lines are for DC (Direct current), DC would be your auto battery or smoke detector battery. The dew point should be 5th grade sciencecurriculum, when you climb out of the swimming pool you feel below the dew point until you get covered with a dry towel, using lotion slows down your skin corrossion. --184.59.xxx.xx |
doorbells (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 9:21 AM Message:
I rip them out. Nowadays when acquaintances come, they text "I'm here." Doorbells are a maintenance item that I rip out. Only strangers use them. --104.230.xxx.xxx |
doorbells (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 9:57 AM Message:
Use the old doorbell wire to fish the new doorbell wire from the kit that Jason recommended. Remove all old doorbell wires to tidy up the basement. I tried battery operated doorbells, but was constantly replacing batteries. I let my tenants put in their Ring, Nest, Google, other brand doorbell cameras. --72.135.xxx.xx |
doorbells (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 12:09 PM Message:
You still need the 16VAC and wiring to use Ring and other stuff. --184.59.xxx.xx |
doorbells (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 3:19 PM Message:
I have door bells. One is from the 1920s. I've owned the house since the late 1970s and have never done a thing to it. It is one of those beautiful chiming tones. I replaced mine in my home a few years ago because I didn't like the looks of the box on the wall. It has one tone for the kitchen door and one for the front door. It has the electric but also has a battery in it.
Robin, I would never know anyone was at my house if they texted that they are here !! That said, anyone who knows me hits the door bell and walks right in. --98.237.xxx.xx |
doorbells (by tim [CA]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 5:54 PM Message:
Buy the chime and the transformer together from amazon for cheap. It's an easy fix. --73.2.xx.xx |
doorbells (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 7:05 PM Message:
Thank you everyone for the replies.
I tested the transformer and when I put the leads of my multi meter on it, it kept giving me a negative reading and jumping around a bit. I may have not had good contact as it is hard to get to where the wire connection was near the wall. However, I never did get a 16-volt DC reading. I pulled the wire nut from the electrical connection and made sure that I did have 120+ volts AC. I also pulled the doorbell button and found no problems. With that said, I think the transformer may be the problem. However, I turned the breaker off for a while so that I could run some new wire and install more outlets. When I turned the breaker back on and later, I went back and checked again it worked. Does the transformer need to charge up or something? I don't know exactly how they work. Anyway, I will check again tomorrow. BTW, one of my thoughts was to just remove it perinatally, but I kind of like it. And this one has an old bell.
I appreciate the analogy, Vee, and everyone's help.
--76.129.xxx.xx |
doorbells (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 9:04 PM Message:
If you remove it, the box stores have cheap battery powered bells available that can go over the old button. In an age of ring systems, door bells are along the same lines as hard wired telephones --24.101.xxx.xxx |
doorbells (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 10:12 PM Message:
I have one of those too, Ray. I just don't use it but it still works. It is rotary dial. --76.129.xxx.xx |
doorbells (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: May 16, 2024 11:36 PM Message:
I restore doorbells where I can. My lease says tenant provides own where I don't have them. Batteries freeze and drain down in the winter. --172.59.xxx.x |
doorbells (by zero [IN]) Posted on: May 17, 2024 9:03 AM Message:
I bought a wired Ring for my daughter, installed it and it works all the time. She added a Ring chime so she could hear it throughout the house.
She took the old battery operated one and put it outside the garage doors. It is rarely charged so doesn't work most times. I did buy a solar charger for it as it is in mostly direct sunlight. She has yet to install it though.
My other kid has a Ring battery doorbell as well. It seems to always need charged at night when he needs it the most. No hard wires there. I suggested a second battery pack to swap but that has yet to happen. --107.147.xx.xx |
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