--172.59.xxx.xx

REQUIRED in this state. No way to charge for them at move in. If the tenant REMOVES or DISABLES-- there is a $250 charge....per ORS90 --76.138.xxx.xxx

I also charge substantially for replacing these at move out. I know you’re not supposed to technically “make money” off of security deposit repairs, but this is one thing that gets filed underneath the “I do not care” category. If you are dumb enough to remove the smoke alarms while you live in the unit, you’re dumb enough to pay to replace them. --24.152.xxx.xx

That would cover a detector or two. --65.188.xxx.xxx

Are you having trouble with tenants removing or damaging them? --76.129.xxx.xx

I have an issue with the detectors ageing out and needing to be replaced. More recently HUD is changing where the cardon dioxide detector is located. After a few weeks the family cooked dinner and the alarm went off and they exited the house and called 911 and the gas company. They rest to find the oven is leaking and needed to be replaced along with the detector. At $40 each. I'm thinking I need to pass this onward to the resident and replace after each turn over. The new package reads good for five years and has an alarm to replace. Just getting to be expensive to replace all at today's prices. --172.59.xxx.xx

And, surely HUD isn't requiring them in the kitchen now? They will probably be going off all of the time just like smoke detectors in a kitchen. --76.129.xxx.xx

Maybe something like "initial expendables". That could cover batteries, filters, the first roll of toilet paper, etc. --209.205.xxx.xx

Yeap, they never required such Carbon dioxide detector, even in a house with gas but I always put them in according to the directions in the package. Now they are going to require them, in the next wave of changes, and they must be on the first floor in the hallway outside the bedrooms mounted near the ceiling. However the instructions read mount close to the floor, so we moved our cardon dector from the basement to the first floor near the ceilingsl outside the bedrooms.... And now all this. --172.59.xxx.xx

I think this is one of those costs you’re just going to have to eat. --24.152.xxx.xx

Thinking outside the box. They can't get OC permit without our detectors so why not let them buy their own and put up? --172.59.xxx.xxx

Have you brought it to their attention as to what the manufacture instructions say? Not that they would listen or care. --76.129.xxx.xx

Who’s responsibility is it to get the OC permit? --24.152.xxx.xx

Do you trust a HUD tenant to install correctly? --76.129.xxx.xx

Also time to consider replacing gas stove with electric, no leaky appliance connector and fumes in general go away, younger moms always told me they were afraid of flames so I listened to them and went elctric years ago and in the student rentals same concept - no flames for science experiments. Charging to replace emergency equipmrnt tampered during the occupancy will show anyone you are being proactive to have safe places for your residents, OH does not allow access to the deposit until occupancy has ended so add to the next rent cycle here - many landlords here have no understanding of the laws and they eat these damages - don't be that landlord. --184.59.xxx.xx

You can not not cut corners on safety - ever. Just raise rent as this is a routine maintenance item. If you are considering this, you are not looking at market rents enough. Your competitors aren't cutting corners there --24.101.xxx.xxx

It would be a move in cost . A fee that would replace all the detectors with new ones. They can take them with them to their new place when they move out. When they have some skin in the game they appreciate things. If they are responsible for their own safety they batteries will get replaced yearly and not removed at Christmas. Anyways once the OC is obtained they do what they want, I can't really police everything they do in their homes anyways. If they have some responsibility for themselves then they do better. Much like my resident with the clogged toilet who said she learned her lesson on what things cost and I bet I never have a toilet issue there ever again as long as she lives there. Why not pass on the cost? They can get free detectors from the fire department ... $300 for me to furnish a SFH home with detectors. It's for their safety. --172.59.xxx.xx

Also I do not end up having to replace all the detectors at every turnover. So with that said my creative accounting could be saving $300 each turnover. --107.147.xx.xx

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx

charge a lock / key fee. When I first started doing lock / key fees my fee was $25.00 then over the years I went up to my current fee of $100.00. The lucky applicant who is allowed to move into my next vacancy will be paying $150.00 for the lock fee. --96.233.xxx.xx

Interesting tidbit to ponder. --107.147.xx.xx

Note the new detectors have a five year life span and a light and sound when need to be replaced. The one Carbon monoxide detector that I just replaced, the one that went off and alarmed the residents to leave the house, was dated 2009. So go figure. I'm thinking of these are disposable and such a liability, it may be wise to pass on he responsibility to the tenant, and he cost. I can still require and check but in order to get keys it must pass OC and the detector must be installed. Not sure I'd ever get 100% away from coordinating the process but I remove myself from the cost and put the liability back on them for their own safety. Like seat belts in a car or child safety seats. --172.59.xxx.xx

I wasn't aware that they were moving them to a five year lifespan. The sealed units I have boast about a ten year life, but I would be happy with five. --107.147.xx.xx

Smoke detectors are cost of doing business as a landlord. If a tenant damages one, then I charge him for the replacement. --169.150.xxx.xx