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Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Apr 22, 2024 8:44 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Apr 22, 2024 8:49 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by ken [NY]) Apr 22, 2024 9:07 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Apr 22, 2024 9:09 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by ken [NY]) Apr 22, 2024 9:42 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Apr 22, 2024 10:01 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by RB [TN]) Apr 23, 2024 6:50 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Apr 23, 2024 8:20 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by DJ [VA]) Apr 23, 2024 8:21 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by S i d [MO]) Apr 23, 2024 8:22 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by Dodge [PA]) Apr 23, 2024 8:33 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Apr 23, 2024 8:41 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Apr 23, 2024 8:52 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Apr 23, 2024 8:55 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Apr 23, 2024 8:57 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Apr 23, 2024 9:04 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Apr 23, 2024 9:13 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Apr 23, 2024 9:14 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by RB [TN]) Apr 23, 2024 10:25 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by Hoosier [IN]) Apr 23, 2024 1:27 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by RentsDue [MA]) Apr 23, 2024 2:57 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Apr 23, 2024 5:10 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by Dodge [PA]) Apr 23, 2024 5:43 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 23, 2024 6:38 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by 6x6 [TN]) Apr 23, 2024 8:14 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Apr 23, 2024 8:23 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by 6x6 [TN]) Apr 23, 2024 8:41 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by Jason [VA]) Apr 23, 2024 8:45 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by MikeA [TX]) Apr 23, 2024 8:57 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by ken [NY]) Apr 23, 2024 9:35 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by 6x6 [TN]) Apr 23, 2024 9:53 PM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by zero [IN]) Apr 24, 2024 8:46 AM
       Good Cause Passes NY (by Phil [OR]) Apr 25, 2024 11:14 AM

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Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 8:44 PM
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Thank goodness I got Mr. Casanova and friend out just.in.time. Good cause just passed in NYS. And by the sound of it there isn't an "opt in" provision for upstate although touted. It is statewide. If you own more than 10 doors, it applies to you in totality. We own 11 so we will probably put the SFH up for sale soon. Pity because they are decent tenants.

--64.246.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 8:49 PM
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Hold in different entities. --24.152.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 9:07 PM
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I would like to see it in writing so we know the actual law, how will they determine how many units someone has? this is going to scare more landlords than actually do anything --74.77.xx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 9:09 PM
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What happens if your the property manager trying to evict and you donít own any of the doors? --24.152.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 9:42 PM
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In NY a property manager cant do the eviction, there would be an attorney involved.I bet the judge would take the word of the attorney or owner as to number of units owned unless legal aid was there to help the tenant and could prove otherwise but that would probabl involve a search by a title searcher and who is paying for that? NE- story you will find amusing, back in the day the govt mandated that cars could only put out so much emissions so engineers sat around discussing how to get below the required level of emissions and one of them suggested splitting the exhaust into 2 exhaust pipes and the govt people stuck there tester in 1 side and everything tested just fine meanwhile exhaust was spewing out the other exhaust pipe just a few feet away,a car guy friend loves that story.Sometimes it is just that easy to beat them. --74.77.xx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 22, 2024 10:01 PM
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Thatís a good story. It sums up the ridiculousness of a lot of this stuff. Like the good cause eviction and the arbitrary # of 10 units. So a landlord with 10 or less units can evict a tenant without good cause, but as soon as you cross the invisible man made line to 11 or more units, you need good cause? Why? Whatís the magic in the #11 that changes reality itself? Nothing, itís bogus. Itís made up. Either good cause applies to all or it applies to none. A good attorney should be this easily first round, definitely on appeal. --24.152.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 6:50 AM
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Follow the money. --69.130.xxx.xxx




Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:20 AM
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Hochul did this as a "compromise" in having it apply only to NYC and have upstate "opt it" which has infuriated the M@rX1$t$ aka D's). I want to know if it is opt in via county, town? It would seem that they would do it county by county so want to know where to lead the attack on this abomination. --64.246.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:21 AM
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NE:

That's excellent, except they are working that angle too, with the requirement to disclose who the "Real" owner / beneficial interest is.

IF you want to work within the law --68.229.xxx.xxx




Good Cause Passes NY (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:22 AM
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"Whatís the magic in the #11 that changes reality itself? Nothing, itís bogus. Itís made up. Either good cause applies to all or it applies to none."

Amen, NE. So many laws are like this, it's beyond belief.

I feel the same way about minimum wage laws. Why do we discriminate against W-2 employees? If I own a business, I can work for as little as I choose. Many business owners make little to nothing the first 1-2 years as they "bootstrap" the business off the ground, because they're looking at the long-term payoff. An employee could have the same mindset: work for a smaller wage now in exchange for experience and job training, and get a promotion, get a job with a different employer or start their own business later doing something similar. But no. The all-wise Govt has said, "Thou shalt not be allowed to work for less than $X, even if thou be totally okay with it."

Insanity!

It's hard for me to sing the last line of the National Anthem any more, with all the regulations in place. Ought to consider changing it to"

"O're the land of the regulated and the home of the compliant." --184.4.xx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by Dodge [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:33 AM
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Landlords need better influence. Please reach out to your reps to let them know the other sides of the story.

Explain how this will drive up the costs for renters. The bad tenants will get more free lunches at the expense of the good tenants.

Small biz LLs will see to PE LLs who will wring the towel on getting as much short term profit as possible. Other reasons that Good Cause is not good for rental housing. --65.222.xxx.xxx




Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:41 AM
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Dodge, youíre beating a broken drum. ďREACH out to your representatives.Ē Haha yeah right. Those people do not care what you have to say. They care about how much $ you can donate.

Like Mapleleaf added, it applies to NYC, but not upstate. More arbitrary BS. Whatís the magic line that surrounds NYC? Nothing, itís meaningless. But people STILL believe these clown.

Instead of trying to influence, landlords need to get better at problem solving. Finding loopholes, tweaking criteria, etc. Play dirty if you have to, because they certainly are. --24.152.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:52 AM
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Upon reading further it seems they are willing to roll this out to upstate CITIES. My rentals are in a small town so under the gun in my area would be: Rochester, Syracuse, Geneva, Ithaca.

And yes Dodge, we all have formed coalitions and rang our rep's phones off the hook. Only problem is we are under one party rule much like CA, OR, WA, MA, NJ, CT, VT.

The leftist rule is very disappointed with Hochul in that she didn't go full gulag...yet. --64.246.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:55 AM
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Arbitrary rules: "Six foot safe, Five foot DANGER!" Having people stand on little circles and that the Wuflu doesn't attack when you are sitting down eating.

Jim Breuer does a great skit on this! --64.246.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:57 AM
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Mapleleaf, Iíve been doing skits on it since it started. Iíve come to see our collective society as a joke, so it comes easy at this point. Thereís pockets of normalcy still, but theyíre fading. --24.152.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 9:04 AM
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Here is what an Oregonian landlord said on another forum:

"Good cause evictions" has a very bad effect on good tenants. We are small-time landlords of some multi-family units in our little town. Our state passed "just cause eviction" about 3 years ago.

Before that, if a tenant started to become troublesome, not renewing the lease removed the problem and did not cause a black mark on the tenant's eviction record -- overall a very humane way to solve a problem.

Now when a tenant's cute little boy grows up to be a teen age terror, breaking into cars, bullying smaller children and making life miserable for our good tenants I can not get rid of the bad tenant. --64.246.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 9:13 AM
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NE, It's great that public figures such as comedians speak out against the nonsense which is very daring for them as they risk their entire career in doing so. --64.246.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 9:14 AM
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Unfortunately it took them 3-4 years to do so. --24.152.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 10:25 AM
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The smoke has cleared, the curtain has been lifted

and now we know how the magician works his tricks. --69.130.xxx.xxx




Good Cause Passes NY (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 1:27 PM
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What a nightmare. Very vague language. SOme of it specified, such as amount you can raise rent...but basically this all but guarantees that landlords will raise rents annually so they don't get caught in this one.

Although the list of causes for which you CAN evict is long and cover most things you would evict for anyway, there are too many vague words like "reasonable" and "substantial".

There seem to be many workarounds. For example, I'd be willing to move away from my wife and have the rental become my "primary residence" for awhile to get rid of an awful tenant.

IMO this will only cause rents to increase. --64.38.xxx.xxx




Good Cause Passes NY (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 2:57 PM
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Doesnít matter what number of doors they give you now. Once the law is in effect, they will just change the number of doors to make everyone comply. --68.191.xx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 5:10 PM
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RentsDue, slippery slope. --64.246.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by Dodge [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 5:43 PM
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The loopholes will get closed. Something needs to get the pendulum to swing back toward reality. --174.206.xxx.xxx




Good Cause Passes NY (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 6:38 PM
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Land trust sound pretty good now a days huh? --24.101.xxx.xxx




Good Cause Passes NY (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:14 PM
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Perhaps this is the reason why it is said that laws are meant to be broken? --76.129.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:23 PM
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6x6, thereís some truth to that. This will affect people who are afraid to break rules or who insist on following the rules no matter what. It already has the OP actually considering SELLING ASSETS to stay compliant & not deal with it! Think about that for a second. Thatís insane. --24.152.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:41 PM
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NE, I picked up on that. --76.129.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:45 PM
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Much like the moratoriums, that was most likely the intentó-to scare mom and pops into selling. --73.147.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 8:57 PM
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Yes 6 and NE, that is how organized crime flourishes. Go where no law abiding citizen will go and make a killing.

The other option is every landlord bands together in protest similar to how the Boston Tea Party incited the creation of our nation. No taxation without representation. Have every landlord deliver their taxes on rental income to the state in bags of pennies on a set day. That will cause some good opportunities for dialog with the media and state representatives. --209.205.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 9:35 PM
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In 3 months this will all be forgotten.Several years ago they passed a law saying if you bought a house from someone behind on mortgage or taxes etc and they had all kinds of extra protections, cant even mail to anyone on one of those lists etc.The first deal after that my attorney did all kinds of extra paperwork etc,we waited extra days etc and we complied.Now i bet hardly any attorneys or buyers even know about it.This will be the same.Deals will keep getting done,landlords that know what they are doing will keep buying more and more houses,1% of landlords will leave units empty and occupancy rates will get tighter and as a result rents will keep going up.I am to the point where i cant wait to hear the next protections for renters in NY --74.77.xx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2024 9:53 PM
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MikeA, so I guess the question is, how do you get every LL to band together?

It seems to me that is an impossible feet in today's society.

Will the Boston Tea Party ever happen again?

--76.129.xxx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2024 8:46 AM
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Until they come up with a law that has no work arounds I do not see a large percentage of the landlords doing anything.

I admit that although I hate the idea of good cause it doesn't directly effect me (yet) so I won't do much about it.

If I thought calling a rep in NY would help with me being a third of the country away I would do it tho. --107.147.xx.xx




Good Cause Passes NY (by Phil [OR]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2024 11:14 AM
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Oregon instituted a "for cause" eviction only after the tenant had been in place for more than a year. In all actuality, it only hurt the marginal tenants. In the "old days", would just not renew or give a 30 day notice of end of rental. Tenant got to move with a clean record. Now, you give the reason and start the eviction-- shows up on rental record....may be part of the reason there are more homeless.

Let's face it, there is always a reason that you may not want to keep a tenant. Just need to document and follow up. It has made us less willing to "give someone a chance". Black and white, no grey. (ei made us a hard ass) --76.138.xxx.xxx



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