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Fake ESA paper? (by Lucy [IN]) Mar 29, 2024 8:10 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by NE [PA]) Mar 29, 2024 8:29 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by Jason [VA]) Mar 29, 2024 8:35 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 29, 2024 8:50 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 29, 2024 8:52 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by Jim [CA]) Mar 29, 2024 10:20 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by plenty [MO]) Mar 29, 2024 10:52 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by RB [TN]) Mar 29, 2024 11:03 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 29, 2024 11:52 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 29, 2024 11:52 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by Lucy [IN]) Mar 29, 2024 11:53 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by Peacegarden [ND]) Mar 30, 2024 12:07 AM
       Fake ESA paper? (by Robin [WI]) Mar 30, 2024 12:20 AM
       Fake ESA paper? (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Mar 30, 2024 8:25 AM
       Fake ESA paper? (by Vee [OH]) Mar 30, 2024 9:17 AM
       Fake ESA paper? (by Scott [IN]) Mar 30, 2024 10:36 AM
       Fake ESA paper? (by mark g [MA]) Mar 30, 2024 10:51 AM
       Fake ESA paper? (by Scott [IN]) Mar 30, 2024 2:29 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by Small potatoes [NY]) Mar 30, 2024 5:35 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 31, 2024 2:01 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 31, 2024 2:11 PM
       Fake ESA paper? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 31, 2024 2:14 PM


Fake ESA paper? (by Lucy [IN]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 8:10 PM
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I was sent a copy of an ESA letter today via book of faces. It doesn't look real to me. Has no address...Is signed by an MD not a psych professional. Pretty generic name "Meridian Health Services" It's not even a formal application to rent. just and inquiry. I said I could take an animal with proper paperwork. She sent this letter right over. I didn't call her out on it. She hasn't even applied and could be turned down for numerous other reasons. How would you handle the questionable documentation if it become a real part of an application to rent.

--64.184.xx.xx




Fake ESA paper? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 8:29 PM
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There are more fake ones than there are real ones. Get to Googlin’! --24.152.xxx.xx




Fake ESA paper? (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 8:35 PM
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Screen as usual. If they need an emotional support animal, they likely have other red flags you can deny for. I wouldn’t say a thing about the letter unless you have no other reason to deny. Then I would have no problem calling them out, but letters can come from MDs. Just look at the date of the letter veeeery carefully..,, --73.152.xx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 8:50 PM
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Collect the application fee and application. --76.129.xxx.xx




Fake ESA paper? (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 8:52 PM
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Why book of faces now? Am I missing something? Do you mean Facebook? --76.129.xxx.xx




Fake ESA paper? (by Jim [CA]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 10:20 PM
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My guess is it was a cut and paste job off a computer. Legitimate businesses have addresses, phone numbers, and medical information with a medical professionals license.

That beats the time I got a scribbled note on the back of a chiropractor‘s business card --198.44.xxx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 10:52 PM
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Just block their number. Who cares, no more of your time. Next! --172.59.xxx.xx




Fake ESA paper? (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 11:03 PM
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Nix. --69.130.xxx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 11:52 PM
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Lucy,

I would look up the doctor and office to determine authenticity. If you want to pursue, maybe even visit their office to ask if the signature is real.

Yes, an ESA letter can come from any medical professional. Doctors (their staff) pass them out like lollipops or Spiderman bandaids.

The LMN - Letter of Medical Necessity from a medical professional, under 365 days old, is the ONLY proof of legitimacy.

The ones I have seen are very vague -"A support animal for Mary might help her.."

Our local Fair Housing director is agreeable to review any documentation. She is also frustrated by fakers.

Document carefully.

Me? I'm nervous about a person who cannot face life without a cat, or duck, or fur baby. How will they handle stress to keep their job and pay their rent?

If flying on a plane is too traumatizing to do it without your ESA chicken, consider the train or bus.

BRAD

BRAD

--73.103.xxx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 11:52 PM
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Lucy,

I would look up the doctor and office to determine authenticity. If you want to pursue, maybe even visit their office to ask if the signature is real.

Yes, an ESA letter can come from any medical professional. Doctors (their staff) pass them out like lollipops or Spiderman bandaids.

The LMN - Letter of Medical Necessity from a medical professional, under 365 days old, is the ONLY proof of legitimacy.

The ones I have seen are very vague -"A support animal for Mary might help her.."

Our local Fair Housing director is agreeable to review any documentation. She is also frustrated by fakers.

Document carefully.

Me? I'm nervous about a person who cannot face life without a cat, or duck, or fur baby. How will they handle stress to keep their job and pay their rent?

If flying on a plane is too traumatizing to do it without your ESA chicken, consider the train or bus.

BRAD

BRAD

--73.103.xxx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by Lucy [IN]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 11:53 PM
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well...I googled it and tho the letter has no address at all, no phone number. but...I googled the doctor..and he is pretty local in Muncie. whaddayaknow Why would they issue such a fake looking letter. --64.184.xx.xx




Fake ESA paper? (by Peacegarden [ND]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2024 12:07 AM
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I Googled it they seem to be a resource to find dockters possibly 3rd party referral service.

any local licensed professionals can sign a esa paper. But does sound fishy should have a letter head with address phone number and possibly license number.

Just ignore it and look for other reasons to not accept. --174.213.xxx.xx




Fake ESA paper? (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2024 12:20 AM
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I have a FB profile for my property manager alter ego.

Something I've started doing is blocking people who I don't think will be good candidates, ever. People who sprinkle the F word like salt. People whose every post demonstrates the belief that they are an oppressed class. People who brag about their use of illegal drugs. I can't be accused of discriminating against someone who never applies, can I? --65.28.xxx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2024 8:25 AM
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I would let the doctor know that their letters are confusing for us housing providers and ask them to be on letterhead, with more info. --64.246.xxx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2024 9:17 AM
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Spend less time trying to push a square peg thru a round hole, ask your county prosecutor if there is a good way to determine the authenticity of the documents in question. Many of us know what the HUD standard is and the registration number for this diagnosis. --184.59.xxx.xx




Fake ESA paper? (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2024 10:36 AM
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According to Indiana ESA law, the letter from a health service provider must verify the person's disability (if not apparent) and need for an ESA.

It doesn't seem to establish minimum standards for a professional looking letter. --107.141.xx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by mark g [MA]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2024 10:51 AM
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If the document is proven fake, isn't that fraud?

Is there any law/s about fraud?

Good subject for local TV news stations to be alerted to? --96.236.xxx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2024 2:29 PM
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Misrepresentation of an ESA is not fraud in Indiana. I wish it was. It is just a class a infraction. --107.141.xx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2024 5:35 PM
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Wait it's only an inquiry? Say nothing, do you prescreen, or show everyone the unit? --172.59.xxx.xx




Fake ESA paper? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 31, 2024 2:01 PM
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Just remembered...our local Fair Housing director says the letter must be from a medical professional WITH A HISTORY OF TREATING THAT PATIENT - to avoid the online docs.

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 31, 2024 2:11 PM
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Lucy, Gotta mention we get VERY FEW ESA inquiries after I added the line to our app

Note: Misrepresenting a service animal is fraud, punishable by up to $5000 fine and possible jail time.

I just "caught" a good applicant abusing ESA. Said they have 2 ESA dogs. I send "Send documents". He said "Well one is ESA the other is in training so I guess we have to pay for that dog."

I said again "Provide docs". He sent a pic of a card from some online registry, not even the name of the registry on the card.

I said "There is no such thing as a "registry" for support animals other than those online "registry" scams to take your $29.95 in exchange for a card and maybe sell you a red vest."

He said "I'll keep looking for docs." Which tells me he does nto have any.

I said "Let's get your lease signed and paid. When you find the proper docs we can refund any fees for that animal."

He said "OK".

Sure he tried to slip in the second dog but he honestly believes the first dog is truly legit.

So...I get $1900 Non-Refundable Rent Lock Fee plus $1900 rent BECAUSE I worked it out rather than denying.

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




Fake ESA paper? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 31, 2024 2:14 PM
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Does FB or phone tell the poster or caller their attempt to communicate has been blocked?

I fear blocking could fall under DENIAL without documentation.

I agree with screening for cooperation and attitude, but we need proof.

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx





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