Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Jan [TX]) Mar 27, 2024 10:42 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Mar 27, 2024 11:04 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by S i d [MO]) Mar 27, 2024 11:07 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Bonanza [NC]) Mar 27, 2024 11:25 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by RB [TN]) Mar 27, 2024 11:32 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Mar 27, 2024 11:44 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Vee [OH]) Mar 27, 2024 11:47 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by WMH [NC]) Mar 27, 2024 3:09 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Mar 27, 2024 5:29 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Bonanza [NC]) Mar 27, 2024 5:33 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by T [IN]) Mar 27, 2024 5:44 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 27, 2024 7:37 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Small potatoes [NY]) Mar 27, 2024 10:10 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 28, 2024 6:43 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by zero [IN]) Mar 28, 2024 9:17 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by jonny [NY]) Mar 28, 2024 10:15 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Ryan24 [MD]) Mar 28, 2024 1:55 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by don h [MO]) Mar 28, 2024 2:44 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Small potatoes [NY]) Mar 28, 2024 4:13 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 28, 2024 8:29 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by gevans [SC]) Mar 29, 2024 8:15 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by RB [TN]) Mar 29, 2024 9:50 AM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Jeff Sturtecky [IL]) Apr 1, 2024 9:05 PM
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Jan [TX]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 10:42 AM Message:
Any experience with what breeds of dogs should we not accept due to being a danger to the public? --96.79.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 11:04 AM Message:
Check your insurance policy. --64.246.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 11:07 AM Message:
List of most reported dog-bite fatalities
www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2019
It should be noted that pit bulls are BY A WIDE MARGIN more deadly than the second most dangerous, accounting for almost 70% of all fatalities. That doesn't mean other dogs can't be dangerous: it simply means that you should never accept a pit bull, even if the owner claims they are properly trained or socialized.
Note: People with pit bull ESAs/service animals have a special exemption for any landlord or insurance verbiage denying their type of dog. The good news is, you can still screen the person and the animal normally. If the specific animal itself has a history of attacking/biting, you can deny THAT specific animal, even though the breed itself is permitted.
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Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 11:25 AM Message:
v Animals are allowed on a case by case, rental by rental basis.
v Animal size, type, and number of animals are a possible disqualifier.
v We do not accept animals on the forbidden dog breed list (see below).
v Puppies and Non-Neutered / Non-Spayed animals are not allowed.
v No reptiles, fish, birds / fowl, cattle, horses, sheep, goats, pigs, or any other type animal.
v Tenant must possess equipment sufficient to clean up all feces on and off property.
v Duplexes are limited to 1 cat or 1 small dog.
Non-Refundable Animal Registration Fee of $300
Additional Animal Rent of
$25 per animal per month for animals under 40 lbs
$50 per animal per month for animals over 40 lbs.
FORBIDDEN DOG BREEDS:
Akita Alaskan Malamute / Husky Bull Terrier
Cane Corso (Italian Mastiff) Chow Chow Doberman Pinscher
Fila Brasileiro German Shepherd Great Dane
Mastiff Pitbull Presa Canario
Rhodesian Ridgeback Rottweiler Shar Pei
St Bernard Staffordshire Terriers Wolf Hybrids
Or a mix of any of the above - List compiled from Center for Disease Control on dog breeds involved in dog-bite-related fatalities and is disallowed by our property insurance company
To have an animal be considered in your rental application, you must include the following:
1. Photo and name of the animal.
2. Recent medical letterhead from a local vet which includes:
a) If your animal is spayed or neutered
b) Up to date on vaccinations
c) Breed type and weight
To have an animal be considered in your rental application as a support animal, you must include the following with your filled-out application:
1. A written request for a support animal as a reasonable accommodation.
2. Evidence from your healthcare provider of a disability and that you have a disability-related need for an assistance animal.
Misrepresentation of support animals is a Class 3 misdemeanor (N.C.G.S.A. § 168-4.5)
Any animal initially accepted will need an in-home visit to verify that they are friendly and social animals.
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Dangerous Dog Breeds (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 11:32 AM Message:
Quite the program, Bonanza.
I took the Hard Road and accepted NO animals.
There are plenty of other reasons to deny or
end residency. --69.130.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 11:44 AM Message:
I don't think that there is any entire breed that is dangerous to the public. I can't take the dogs on my insurance company's list. I don't take dogs that are known to be diggers. I don't take puppies. I don't take any of the breeds that were bred to be man fighters. I don't take breeds that tend to be barkers.
All dogs must be interviewed so I can see the level of care, level of training, and the manners and temperament.
I prefer to take big dogs over tiny dogs, but the home inspection should tell if the little guys are piddlers or nippers.
There are dogs on my insurance company's list that I would take if I could. The insurance guys don't like them, so I can' take them. I would take a show bred AKC American Stafforshire terrier. You'll never meet a nicer dog than that. I'd take a British Staffordshire terrier, the small guys with the big heads. Although I can see an issue coming up with "why won't you take my pitbull when you accepted his". And it would be really rare to have a tenant who would pay that much for a dog, so I don't actually generally have them apply.
I would take a German Shepherd that passed the interview. Dogs do not get any better than a good German Shepherd. But I can't take them. --76.178.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 11:47 AM Message:
Not only -your insurance- but what is stated on the declaration page of the applicant, without this the application goes no further. --184.59.xxx.xx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 3:09 PM Message:
When people say it is not the breed, it's the owner it drives me crazy. Why does the AKC exist, why do people want "purebreds" (or NOT want purebreds!) Why do we even talk about wanting a particular breed of dog, like a Golden Retriever or an Australian Shepherd or a toy poodle?
It's because dogs (any animal species, really) are bred for certain breed characteristics and on balance, we expect the breed to have those characteristics.
To say breed doesn't matter is really ridiculous. And to say class of breeds doesn't matter is ridiculous. There are working dogs, sporting dogs, dogs bred for protection, aggressiveness or passiveness, looks alone, etc.
Watch the Westminster Dog Show sometime. You still think breed doesn't matter? --173.28.xx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 5:29 PM Message:
Bonanza yours is similar to mine but I like your verbiage so I'm stealing that. :) --64.246.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 5:33 PM Message:
Steal away. We're all here to help each other. Modify it to suit your situation.
That's why I posted it for Jan (TX). No sense re-inventing the wheel. --65.188.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by T [IN]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 5:44 PM Message:
Pit Bull Terriers
Staffordshire Terriers
Rottweilers
German Shepherds
Presa Canarios
Chows Chows
Doberman Pinschers
Akitas
Wolf-hybrids
Mastiffs
Cane Corsos
Great Danes
Alaskan Malamutes
Siberian Huskies
chihuahua
First 10 are my insurance company, last is mine. Ankle biters!!! --170.203.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 7:37 PM Message:
Two legged ones that we refer to as tenants.
Poor doggies.
--76.129.xxx.xx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2024 10:10 PM Message:
My insurance does not list breeds. My most promising prospect in quite a while is moving to my area for a management job but has 2 pomeranians. I only have multi units. In NY I can't take extra pet deposit. Is there any world in which these might be well behaved quite types that don't ruin flooring? --172.59.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2024 6:43 AM Message:
I have to wonder if there any correlation between dog breeds that are prohibited if they become ESAs. --24.101.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2024 9:17 AM Message:
Buddy of mine shared two pages that he got from an applicant concerning their ESAs.
Both big pits. One named devil, can't remember the other.
Guy paid for online certification. Sent pictures of the dogs to get added to the paperwork. Big write up on each page about how the dogs were needed for emotional support. Obvious that it was a form letter and they just added the pic and the name.
I guess the guy still paid the pet rents even tho he had the BS paperwork. --107.147.xx.xx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2024 10:15 AM Message:
Small potatoes... see if you can do a pet FEE instead. I don't know if that would be against the rules or not but it's worth a try.
Also... I'm not saying to do this but if you take the deposit and there aren't any issues (or even if there are and you take the money from it)... the tenant is going to be fine.
Most tenants don't even know the laws and WANT to pay extra just to be able to have their pets.
On a side note... my insurance company no longer has a list and my agent said "just require renters insurance and require that you are named first insured".
Something happens to the dog (or regarding the animal, etc) it goes against THEIR insurance first...
Also... I'm reading many of the posts on here are claiming you can't deny ESA based on (insert your cause here). Maybe this is true... However, you CAN deny (ore retract) their animal if it is aggressive, acts aggressively towards others, is a nuisance (barking, digging, destroying property, etc). So just keep that in mind as well. However, you most likely can find a reason to deny if you really don't want the animal. --69.201.xx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Ryan24 [MD]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2024 1:55 PM Message:
I don't know about all insurance companies but I would guess most, if not all, have to allow all breeds of ESAs and Service Animals. They were getting tied up in litigation because of it so now they get to exclude them from the prohibited list.
We do require the applicant to bring the support animal with them to the showing though. See if it is aggressive, barks too much as to disturb the neighbors, bites you, or maybe pee on the floor for you while they are there? No protections against animals that damage the housing or will push other residents out and create undue financial burden for you.
You cannot, however, charge any kind of pet fee, deposit, rent or otherwise for a support animal. --73.135.xx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by don h [MO]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2024 2:44 PM Message:
Seems more concise to just list the breeds you will accept. --172.59.xxx.xx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2024 4:13 PM Message:
Jonny NY says you cannot collect more than 20 total in fees. If I want to consider this I will negotiate a higher rent, that is still allowed. I do require renters insurance. My concern is that pomeranians are a breed not worthy of consideration because they yap and pee a lot. Was wondering if others prohibit them or have negative experiences. --172.59.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2024 8:29 PM Message:
You can require that all applicants have and maintain renter's insurance.
Your insurance company or theirs doesn't have to write it. --24.101.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 8:15 AM Message:
Have accepted pets for years, with nonrefundable registration FEES and monthly additional FEE of between $25 and $40/month.
I require vet info, current vaccines, proper licensing, name and pic of animal, and a personal screening. If the animal does not like me, he doesn't get in. LOL
I need to add renter insurance required for those with pets.
My insurance co (SF) does not have a list of dangerous breeds.
My lease just says "no dangerous breed or bred animals".
One of our tenant's dogs got loose and killed the neighbor's dog just this week. I immediately filed for eviction with no cure. That one's a first for me. --69.80.xx.xx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 9:50 AM Message:
It would be a better World without Dogs
and the Majority of their Owners. --69.130.xxx.xxx |
Dangerous Dog Breeds (by Jeff Sturtecky [IL]) Posted on: Apr 1, 2024 9:05 PM Message:
As of January 2024 Illinois has a law that was passed in June of 2023 and went into effect in January of 2024 restricting insurance carriers from increasing premiums, non-renewing policies, or restricting policies based on specific breeds of dogs for Homeowners and Renters Policies.
Insurers can however make increases, non-renew, and ad restrictions based on a specific dog based on prior knowledge of that dog's behavior. --73.74.xxx.xxx |
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