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City housing meeting (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 22, 2024 1:42 AM
       City housing meeting (by Rick [IN]) Mar 22, 2024 5:16 AM
       City housing meeting (by MC [PA]) Mar 22, 2024 6:12 AM
       City housing meeting (by Bonanza [NC]) Mar 22, 2024 6:26 AM
       City housing meeting (by NE [PA]) Mar 22, 2024 7:14 AM
       City housing meeting (by Ken [NY]) Mar 22, 2024 8:30 AM
       City housing meeting (by plenty [MO]) Mar 22, 2024 8:32 AM
       City housing meeting (by zero [IN]) Mar 22, 2024 9:40 AM
       City housing meeting (by DJ [VA]) Mar 22, 2024 9:52 AM
       City housing meeting (by S i d [MO]) Mar 22, 2024 10:12 AM
       City housing meeting (by NE [PA]) Mar 22, 2024 10:16 AM
       City housing meeting (by RB [TN]) Mar 22, 2024 10:20 AM
       City housing meeting (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Mar 22, 2024 11:55 AM
       City housing meeting (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 22, 2024 2:04 PM
       City housing meeting (by Hoosier [IN]) Mar 22, 2024 2:28 PM
       City housing meeting (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 22, 2024 2:59 PM
       City housing meeting (by Simplify [NY]) Mar 22, 2024 3:07 PM
       City housing meeting (by Ken [NY]) Mar 22, 2024 4:05 PM
       City housing meeting (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Mar 22, 2024 5:21 PM
       City housing meeting (by Allym [NJ]) Mar 23, 2024 11:31 AM
       City housing meeting (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 24, 2024 12:01 AM
       City housing meeting (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 24, 2024 12:14 AM
       City housing meeting (by Vee [OH]) Mar 24, 2024 7:56 AM
       City housing meeting (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 24, 2024 5:19 PM
       City housing meeting (by NE [PA]) Mar 24, 2024 5:24 PM
       City housing meeting (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 24, 2024 7:18 PM
       City housing meeting (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 24, 2024 9:13 PM
       City housing meeting (by CJ [FL]) Mar 29, 2024 8:23 AM
       City housing meeting (by NE [PA]) Mar 29, 2024 8:55 AM

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City housing meeting (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 1:42 AM
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About 150 people showed up. Most comments circled around "affordable" (a very loose term used by realtors wanting homes under $250k and renters wanting $500 rents,

and homelessness.

Of course lots of talk about LLs just need to charge less and not be so concerned about money. Civil, not bashing.

A few take aways...

Me? For all the folks upset about the city not providing for the unhoused - stop waiting for the city. Take action. Your bag of canned food is nice but if you are serious, write a check, a check as big as your zeal for the homeless.

And take in a person in need like (Seattle??) suggests. Most have plenty of space in their home or garage - a homeless person does not need much space. Park your Prius in the driveway and let someone live in your garage. AirBnb hosts rent out their spare bedroom.

Allow people to sleep in their own car. My neighbor's inlaws showed up in a $250K Mercedes motorhome with the plan to sleep in their own bed while visiting for a few days. Nope. Against the law to sleep in a vehicle which is not in an approved campground.

My Sec8 renter was allowing his buddy to park his minivan with a mattress in the short drive to the garage off the alley. A legit parking space. Nope. *I* was going to be fined $200 because fines go to the property, not the vehicle.

My simple solutions to help some of the people that would not cost the city a penny.

BRAD

--73.103.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by Rick [IN]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 5:16 AM
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1. Allow "the homeless" to sleep in city government offices and use said bathrooms after hours.

2. Have city politicians/"do-gooders" advocating "helping the homeless" house, feed, and be responsible for said homeless individuals they take in. --75.107.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 6:12 AM
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Tell restaurantsand retailers to charge less so everyone can afford it. Lower my mortgage and utilities so I can charge less. Have a do gooder take in a felon or a homeless for a month and see how it works. 96% of the time it won't be good. Writing big checks doesn't help because no on has a good solution except more food. --73.230.xxx.xx




City housing meeting (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 6:26 AM
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I deal with many people from all levels of society.

Some people do not have the mental capacity or cognitive ability to work out how to survive in this world. This is where family and community come into play. The care of this issue will only be mitigated (not solved) at a local level.

Expecting the national or state government to fix an unfixable problem is not going to work.

There will always be the poor. There will always be those with mental health issues. There will always be those who find solace in drugs, gambling, or some other self destructive activity.

Making hard choices is not what our current society is capable of. This may offend you. Removing Narcan from first responders would help mitigate the drug problem this country is facing. --65.188.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 7:14 AM
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What is the last social problem that politicians has actually solved? --24.152.xxx.xx




City housing meeting (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 8:30 AM
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Bonanza, I am all for taking narcan away from first responders --74.77.xx.xx




City housing meeting (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 8:32 AM
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Concentrate on making the economy healthy and the rest will work itself out. More laws is not always the answer. --172.59.xxx.xx




City housing meeting (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 9:40 AM
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Off topic I know but while I do not agree with Narcan being administered repeatedly to abusers I feel that the first responders should have it on hand for accidental intake.

Maybe a kid gets into the stash. Maybe someone gets a roofie of fentanyl. I talked with a buddy of mine who has dealt with the drug interactions with his job as a police officer.

I saw a video of an officer who came into physical contact with fentanyl. She was freaking out. Turns out it is more in your head with the slight contact she had, but what a scary situation.

Have also head of the same person getting multiple hits of Narcan at different times.

That needs addressed. --107.147.xx.xx




City housing meeting (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 9:52 AM
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Brad: Did you have an opportunity to speak?

Did you?

If yes, did you say what you wrote here?

What was the response?

If not why not?

Were you afraid (justifiably) the response would be a mob attacking you?

Those 50 people really needed to hear a different way of thinking --68.229.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 10:12 AM
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They won't listen. The party of "Compassion" has always operated under the guise of "rules for thee, but not for me."

For the same reason I call B.S. on Libs who want to raise taxes on the "evil rich", but who won't actually write out larger checks every year at tax time, I call B.S. on these "activists". Did you know you can willingly pay more taxes than you owe? Increasing tax rates by law is not necessary. Just write a bigger check! The IRS will cash it.

But none of them ever do writer bigger checks. There's your sign. They have no intention of paying more taxes themselves. --184.4.xx.xx




City housing meeting (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 10:16 AM
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Im curious why you even went? Did you have a direct problem to solve currently affecting one of your properties? Beyond that, those meetings are nothing but a bunch of hot air. --174.249.xx.xx




City housing meeting (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 10:20 AM
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If ya don't work / contribute, ya don't eat. --69.130.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 11:55 AM
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In ideal situation there would be no vandalism where in the province of Ontario it is illegal to charge a cleaning, pet and damage deposit where the high costs of vandalism must be past on to tenants. The free for all rent where it takes a long time to get a hearing. In the apartment buildings the operating costs were over a one thousand dollars per day where they would not go down to grocery store to tell them to operate at a loss. High immigration is where the supply of all types of housing has not increased so when supply goes down then prices go up. Many of the critics if a apartment complex was turned over to them within six months or less it would be bankrupt then maintenance would go down. Incentives to build rental housing and tax breaks will increase the supply of rental housing along with changing the landlord and tenant act than provide subsidies for tenants to get rental housing not criticism. In the end there are two sides of a story. Rent control never works in Canada or anywhere in the world. Provinces that have free market rent where rents are lower not above market. It is business not a charity. A small government complex has a loss of over hundred thousand per year along with does not pay 13 per cent GST tax on goods and services. --207.236.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 2:04 PM
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"Removing Narcan from first responders would help mitigate the drug problem this country is facing"

I couldn't agree more. Why are we saving a thieving drug addicts life? Bullets are cheaper.

"Im curious why you even went?"

Get to know your enemy.

--76.129.xxx.xx




City housing meeting (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 2:28 PM
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Amen to many of the comments. I think politicians need to understand that all these rules, fees, taxes they impose on LLs just get passed on to the tenants. For example, in our county there is a large "homestead" exemption on property taxes. In other words, if the owner of the house actually lives in it, they get a gigantic deduction. But if it's rented, the deduction disappears. The result?? Property taxes on one of my units was $863/year when the person I bought it from lived there, but when I bought it and rented it, the taxes went to $1,928/year. That cost got passed on directly to the tenant. --64.38.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 2:59 PM
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I don't believe politicians are really that dumb. Most of them seem to have businesses. I would guess the reality might be more along the lines that they assume most tenants will not realize that the cost get passed down. So they use this strategy to their advantage to get votes from the population that doesn't seem to realize it. --76.129.xxx.xx




City housing meeting (by Simplify [NY]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 3:07 PM
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Folks see what they want to.

Most of the rules to "protect" tenants actually punish landlords - which leads to fewer, more expensive, less well-maintained units. Who's that good for?

Making it easier to add new units - build, subdivide, or renovate - does help but is happening s-l-o-w-l-y if at all.

FYI mortgage costs and single family home prices have risen FASTER than rent, but the political heat is focused on rents.

Throwing government money at the housing crisis hasn't made as big an impact as people want. Making changes that don't cost much government money are somehow unpopular.

Join the YIMBY revolution! --104.255.xx.xxx




City housing meeting (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 4:05 PM
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6x6 in my area most of the politicians are govt employees,that probably explains a lot concerning TN vs NY --74.77.xx.xx




City housing meeting (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2024 5:21 PM
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The problem is the extreme fringe left wing groups do not even represent 0.01 per cent of the population no matter how vocal they are where I never seen the amount of hate towards rental housing providers during pandemic where some were arrested for vandalism which was supposed to be a peaceful protest. Here during the federal, provincial and municipal elections the tenant turn out is very low as they are completely obvious to issues that concern them which will cause rents to go up. Well say you take the locomotive out then the train will come to a grinding halt. There are two sides to a story where critics have never accomplished anything in life where complete failures. Some of them own their houses where move some squatters in then let them provide free housing and free utilities. You can be sure they would the eviction process. --207.236.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 23, 2024 11:31 AM
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People who follow the Dem line of reasoning do not seem to be "deep thinkers". They just see the immediate result of their policy but not what happens down the line. . --173.61.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2024 12:01 AM
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Rick! You are today's COTD Winner! Comment Of The Day.

Those govt halls are totally empty at 5:01pm, and all day Sat and Sun, with ADA compliant ramps and restrooms.

You actually gave me a fantastic idea - allow overnight parking in the City and County Buildings' parking lots. Next door to the police station, jail, MacDonalds, and grocery store.

Allow parking 7pm - 7 am. No outside furniture, grills, storage.

DJ,

Wifey said I should be there as the Prez of our assoc.

I was polite and did not make public comments on the open mic. I've been misquoted plenty of times on the front page. They DID include my photo while talking to others. This was a time for the social justice warriors to vent. And really there were many good comments.

Theme: Why doesn't the city do something about this!

Me? The city CAN do somethings like relaxing the limit on number of unrelated persons in a house, allow sleeping in vehicles/RVs, allow smaller square footage for residences, allow the police to remove squatters, get the court to evict quicker and without an atty...

I did talk to the organizers that they should include "ability to qualify" as they look at rental housing demographics. 1 out of 50 applicants qualified. Do you really need 5 dogs? Consider a roommate to combine incomes. How many times evicted? Criminal records...

BRAD

BRAD

--73.103.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2024 12:14 AM
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I understand the "Darwin Awards" concept regarding narcan but cannot agree.

I'm sure there are people who say the same about LLs.

My former worker, 20's, defeated drugs, got his act together, asst manager at Burger King, working 70 hours a week, able to buy a nice car and apt, putting money in the bank...

He slipped. Once. A mistake.

Experts called it an accidental overdose because he probably did the same dose as before but his "clean" body could not handle it. PLUS it included fentynal.

He died with the needle still in his arm.

If someone with narcan had seen him he'd be alive today.

Some of these folks are given bad drugs with fentynal.

We rent out 4 Sober Living Houses - a halfway stop after rehab to solidify good habits and rebuild their lives. I see pictures of their kids on the wall and hear about their visits. Many admit narcan saved their life, and saved their kids from losing a father.

Our Sheriff says drug addicts are not criminals they are sick and should be treated like patients.

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2024 7:56 AM
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6 by you touched one semething on of my uncles told me years ago about politicians, they arrive with good ideas but when the incumbents surround the younger one there is a practice that occurs, sort of a ritual to help form a re-election speech. You find someone who will listen, pee on their leg and convince them it is raining. --184.59.xxx.xx




City housing meeting (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2024 5:19 PM
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Brad, you said "Our Sheriff says drug addicts are not criminals they are sick and should be treated like patients." I completely disagree with your sheriff. Most of them are criminals. They still for drug money and some of them will kill for it. Those are crimes. My tools got stolen by a heroin addict.

Ken, you may be right.

Vee, it does seem the same. --76.129.xxx.xx




City housing meeting (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2024 5:24 PM
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6x6, go sit in on a few NA & AA meetings and see the healing that has happened with previous addicts. I did a personal intervention on my brother who was a heroin addict. Hes about 13 years sober now. Theyre not all lost causes. I can almost guarantee more than half of the guys that LLs on here hire maintenance out to are active in or have attended AA meetings with some success. The higher level drug dealers on the other hand, we need to be hanging them from light poles across the country. --24.152.xxx.xx




City housing meeting (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2024 7:18 PM
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NE, I understand but I am still a little bit bitter. --76.129.xxx.xx




City housing meeting (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2024 9:13 PM
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Do meetings like that ever get results? --24.101.xxx.xxx




City housing meeting (by CJ [FL]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 8:23 AM
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Great topic. There is an "affordability housing" meeting scheduled here by one of the civil rights groups. I read part of the guest speaker's book. There was/is such a thing as "heirs" in legal settings. It is a state government regulated process whereby the heirs of a piece or property are contacted ( if they can find them) , and for instance, someone buys out one of the 6 heirs's shared, even if it is a 3% share. Then that 3% owner can force the sale of the property as per state law. An example was given of 160 acres, a timber company paid one heir $100 dollars. The timber company forced the sale. The courts had an auction, none of the real heirs could pay the back taxes , etc. for the property and the timber company bought the land at auction. The heirs could not come up with the money so the family line lost the property. Many states are changing this so that at least the family heirs can get a fair market value sale vs. the courts having an auction of the land. This meeting will probably talk a lot about the generational wealth issue we hear about now, as well as the rental rates, etc in this area. There are some good points here, but until laws kept up in regards to these type issues, the poor will be at this type of disadvantage. . Also, education is key so that older folks know to have a proper will, estate plan, etc.on place.

I personally can't change history, but laws can be changed in this type situation. --76.242.xx.xxx




City housing meeting (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2024 8:55 AM
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An affordable housing meeting scheduled by a civil rights group? I think Id rather go roll around naked in poison ivy. --24.152.xxx.xx



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