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Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Mar 11, 2024 7:52 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2024 8:05 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Still Learning [NH]) Mar 11, 2024 8:22 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by S i d [MO]) Mar 11, 2024 8:24 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Ken [NY]) Mar 11, 2024 8:39 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Mar 11, 2024 8:43 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2024 8:56 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Mar 11, 2024 9:05 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by David [MO]) Mar 11, 2024 9:26 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Vee [OH]) Mar 11, 2024 9:41 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Mar 11, 2024 9:50 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2024 9:55 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by plenty [MO]) Mar 11, 2024 10:24 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by S i d [MO]) Mar 11, 2024 10:30 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by plenty [MO]) Mar 11, 2024 10:52 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 11, 2024 10:58 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Mar 11, 2024 11:20 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by tryan [MA]) Mar 11, 2024 11:22 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Mar 11, 2024 11:29 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by NE [PA]) Mar 11, 2024 11:50 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by RB [TN]) Mar 11, 2024 11:51 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Nicole [PA]) Mar 11, 2024 12:04 PM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by plenty [MO]) Mar 11, 2024 12:45 PM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 11, 2024 3:20 PM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by plenty [MO]) Mar 11, 2024 6:35 PM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by 6x6 [TN]) Mar 11, 2024 7:47 PM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Mar 12, 2024 10:25 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Doogie [KS]) Mar 12, 2024 10:47 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Small potatoes [NY]) Mar 12, 2024 10:55 AM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Mar 12, 2024 7:11 PM
       Getting tenant to vacate (by Hoosier [IN]) Mar 19, 2024 11:41 PM

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Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 7:52 AM
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Lets say you have a tenant who has paid rent for 6 years but now you need the tenant to vacate because you want to sell the house. And since this tenant is living paycheck to paycheck with no savings, they do not have the means to buy the house themselves.

So, you need to get this tenant to vacate so that you can repaint it and put it on the MLS by June 1st.

I can post a 30 day Notice to Vacate here, however, that is not the issue though. The issue is when tenant calls you and wants to know 'why are you doing this or why are you telling us we need to leave?" 'We have been very happy here for the last 6 years'.

How would you handle this delicate situation?

--71.207.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 8:05 AM
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Plans for the house changed, thank you for being out on time. --24.152.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 8:22 AM
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NEís is very straightforward if you can say that and not get drawn into whyís. You could also say every x number of years we need to do maintenance that is too involved for tenants to be living in it. This year itís time for your house. I would give more than 30 days notice. When I want someone out, I try to make it easy for them. I have given 90 days notice and told them rent is due on the first but since I have asked them to leave so I can do maintenance, I waive things like notice and tell them if they are able to get into a place, take it. If they have paid rent on the first and suddenly move on the 15th, I will refund the unused rent for that month. I donít want them to lose a place because the new landlord wants their unit filled on the 15th vs waiting for the first. The tenant wonít want to pay double rent. I have also given a 3-4 month lease where month 1 rent stays the same and then each month after raises by $100 to incentivize them to move. --73.159.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 8:24 AM
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Exactly what NE suggested... the old K.I.S.S. rule applies. Keep It Simple, Silly.

There's no need to give a reason. If you must, then "I'm selling the house and want to have it vacant so I can fix it up." Period. Done. End of story. Give them notice now so they have almost 80 days to find a new place. That's more than what your contractual and legal obligation requires. Offer them a positive reference if they are cooperative.

Ultimately, their paycheck to paycheck existence isn't your concern, but if you want to be a hero then offer them an advance refund of 50% of their deposit to help put toward the new unit... again, assuming they are cooperative and are making progress toward vacating the unit on time. No money paid until they have a formal APPROVAL from the new landlord, and then you pay it directly to the landlord to ensure they don't blow it on something else, leaving you with having to evict them.

--184.4.xx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 8:39 AM
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I would still try to sell it to them first,sell the payment so try to keep it at the same payment for mortgage and taxes and insurance as they pay for rent.You may have to do seller concessions to help with closing costs,you will have to walk them through the process and hold there hand.Find a mortgage broker who you know and can help them.Just because they are paycheck to paycheck ,which is an assumption on your part,doesnt mean they cant get a USDA loan,zero down if in the right area or FHA loan 3 1/2 percent down. Otherwise if they are good tenants i would move them to another place or call one of my landlord friends and try to find them anothr place.If those dont work i would give them the legal minimum and start the battle --74.77.xx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 8:43 AM
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Sid,

As you are probably aware, when my tenants ring my phone, I answer it. Always have. If they send a text, I send them a text back.

So, within one hour of posting a 30 day Notice to Vacate on this tenant, I will get a phone call and I will answer it.

So the issue here is: do I tell the truth or make up some B.S. reason of why I posted that notice. --71.207.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 8:56 AM
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Roy, you tell them enough to pacify them and send them on their way, no more. That will be your challenge. --24.152.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 9:05 AM
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"Dear Tenant, we appreciate you being a great tenant all these years, however we have made the difficult decision to move in another direction with the property at 123 Maple St., (insert info about proper notice and sec dep return, etc.) --64.246.xxx.xxx




Getting tenant to vacate (by David [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 9:26 AM
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Roy, shoot straight with the tenant you are going to sell, so that is why you have posted the 30 day notice.

They need to vacate or you will have to evict. --174.213.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 9:41 AM
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Ask them to move everything out of the south bedroom, painting on Wednesday at 9AM. Fiday the other bedroom same time., remove all supplies and tools so they can not steal anything. --184.59.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 9:50 AM
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David (MO)

Back when mortgage rates were in 2-3 percent range, I should have sold this 4/2/2 mansion (my biggest house) then. However, now that interest are approaching 7% and could go higher, that is putting pressure on me to sell this house while the RE market here is still relatively good. I have $30K in this house and this house would probably list on the MLS at $149,500.

Now, if I told this truth to my tenant, it would backfire in the response,..."you greedy @#$%^* POS MFKer."

So, I really need a good B.S. response instead of the truth. --71.207.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 9:55 AM
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Make sure you come back and let us know how this disaster unfolds. --174.249.xx.xxx




Getting tenant to vacate (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 10:24 AM
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Just tell them the truth. That is we have a contract agreement (the lease) either party can give X time to end the lease. I assume after all this time you are month to month, in my state that is 30 days. Just keep repeating the TRUTH. Only the truth. All renters understand that their "good deal" could end at any time. It's now that time. Every month either party could have given the 30 days notice to end the agreement, they could have given you the same. Offer a letter if that helps of support for the timeframe they lived there. Assure them you would give them a reference if their new landlord calls. They can give them your phone number and you will answer the phone as you have for the last 6 years. All renters also understand the market and the low housing inventory and many many landlord are selling home that were rental houses. It's not new NEWS to anyone. Just the truth. You are good at tell the truth, don't make us stories, don't finally cave in and tell them your business, just the contract is ending. PUT your notification in writing and mail it to them, post on the door and snap a picture with your phone. Send them a text that you posted (Show picture of bright colored paper on their door) just now. Just so they know. I just had to go thru this and they actually moved and they cleaned everything!!! And I gave them back their deposit plus a $1... and Along with the notice to vacate I provided them a check list for move out, for cleaning and how to get their deposit back. I told them I gave them as much time as I had, state law and our agreement is 30 days but I gave them 60 days and they did not balk at the request. I called it a "new season of my life and theirs's too" and "opportunity for everyone" HOPE That helps... i too answer the phone when my residents call. I get what you are saying and being prepared for the good news taken in the worst way (i did something wrong) can go along way. YOu got this. --172.59.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 10:30 AM
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Roy, I'm not sure about your response at all... I never said, "Don't answer the phone." I said give a simple, honest notice. However you choose to do that is up to you.

Or give no reason at all. Just give notice. "Effective (insert date), I am not renewing the lease. Please have all personal property removed on or before that date. Security deposit will be refunded once I have secured possession of the property and received the keys."

K.I.S.S.

If you give a "B.S. reason" you are giving them something to argue with you about. Sounds like they are going to argue anyway, so why bother? At the end of the day, it's your property and if you say they have to leave, then they have to leave. They can cuss all they want. Whoopty doo.

--184.4.xx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 10:52 AM
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I'd soften this " I am not renewing the lease.'' to making it about the paperwork --- removing the "i" from any statements written or verbal. IT's about the agreement/lease.

Agee, don't look for an argument. just the facts. --172.59.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 10:58 AM
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If your rental was in the Los Angeles area, then from February 01, 2020 to March 01, 2024, you would NOT BE ALLOWED TO MAKE YOUR TENANT MOVE OR PAY RENT. They would be your guest, you'd even have to pay their Water, Power, Trash and Cable service bills. If you said, "Pay rent or I'm going to evict you -- then you'd have to pay a $10,000 fine to your tenant. And if this "tenant" was NOT ON THE LEASE and you never ever received rent from them, you could never collect unpaid rent, since you had no contract with them to pay rent.

And after March 01, 2024, if there was an open violation from the City for something wrong in the rental, your eviction would be thrown out of court. So Free Legal Aid for your tenant/squatter would advice them to file false police reports against you.

I've had a bunch of these case's. When I went to the City Attorney to file a complaint about squatter filing false police reports, charges, the City attorney called the police on me, for bothering them about Landlord Issues. --47.155.xx.xxx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 11:20 AM
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Offer it to them first. They can't afford it, but it is the polite thing to do and should soften the blow of being cancelled: Tenant, I am going to put the house on the market. If you would like to buy the house yourself, I will give you 2 weeks to talk to mortgage lenders to see if you can buy it yourself. If you do not want to buy the house yourself, I need to have you out at the end of your lease on *date* so I can sell it.

Please leave the house clean and in good repair because I would like to return all of your deposit. (and for my tenants who are good tenants) You can have potential landlords call me for a good landlord reference if your choice is to move to a different rental

(and also, if I want them out, I offer to let them out of the remainder of the lease early without penalty, which makes it a lot easier for them to find a new place if they don't have to coordinate move-out and move-in dates.)

Efficient is all good and fine, but it is better if you can get them out without making them angry or revengeful. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Getting tenant to vacate (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 11:22 AM
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Have you considered carrying the note for them? --198.168.xx.xxx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 11:29 AM
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Sid,

I was just making a reference to your All Calls go to Voicemail in that you do not answer phone calls from tenants or rental prospects. I am the opposite.

Plenty - I like your approach to this. Remove the I. I just need the right language here since I will be dealing with an emotional female. If it was a male tenant, I would not have even made this post.

Robert J (CA) - Los Angeles is the last place on Earth I would be a landlord. If I was you, I would cash out and move to another state.

--71.207.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 11:50 AM
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Maybe in this situation you should be like Sid and let it go to voicemail. Ditch the practice and embrace the philosophy. Thereís a reason for it. --174.249.xx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 11:51 AM
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For such a Big, intimidating, self-proclaimed guy,

things seem to go one step forward and then two steps back.

When was your last chemo-therapy ? --69.130.xxx.xxx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 12:04 PM
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I am different than many on here. After six years, I would go in person and talk to the tenant. I would be honest. The house is to be sold (no need to go into why). I would give notice immediately. I would tell them I need to follow up this conversation with the required written legal notices. --98.237.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 12:45 PM
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Nicole then they agree that they can live there until it's sold. I would not tell them your business or your intentions. They get all wiggly when they think you can and will make money. Poor folks have poor mindsets you are smart to manage them. --172.59.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 3:20 PM
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I think you are asking if you should yank a band aid off or not. I believe in honesty over all but if it will make the person feel better you can soften it this way. Will you ever answer the question - do these pants make me look fat correctly vs truthfully.

Your business partner Ray in Pa is a royal pain in your bottom to you. He is telling you that it is time to pull out of this passive investment that I have with you down in your state.

Other than the persons feelings, after six years of living there what would you deduct from the deposit? So armed with that - buy some cooperation by offering a rapid refund of the deposit. You could even return part of the deposit now. --24.101.xxx.xxx




Getting tenant to vacate (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 6:35 PM
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I would not return any deposit before hand. They could leave a dumpster full of their crap thru collected over six years! Six years ago the deposit may not have been as much as inflation has increased the dumpster cost. Let them give you back a clean sparkling clean house with all their dirt and stuff removed! Hang on to the deposit. Be smart. Return it according to your state laws --172.59.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2024 7:47 PM
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The truth shall set you free. Why lie?

I also wonder how it would feel to be a tenant of 6 years and then suddenly be asked to move? Even though it is common knowledge that this could happen, I don't think it would feel good. Just think about being considerate and kind when giving them the notice. I doubt BSing them will display this. They have paid for the house for you haven't they? Why can't you give them plenty of notice in return? And, be truthful. --76.129.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2024 10:25 AM
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After reading all of the responses here, it seems Plenty's advice is the most professional and probably the best way to handle this situation.

Plenty said "They get all wiggly when they think you can and will make money. Poor folks have poor mindsets you are smart to manage them."

That statement hit the nail on the head. I am dealing with a poor mindset here and I am just looking for the most professional way to communicate with this long term tenant. I will be posting my Vacate notice on Thursday. --71.207.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2024 10:47 AM
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Having gone through this just a month ago, I can only tell you what I did. I gave them the legal notice posted on the door like my state requires. They texted and asked why as they had no intention of moving and liked it there. What I wanted to say was "I'm tired of you trashing the place and want you out before it really costs money to get it rerented." What I actually said was, "We have decided to go a different direction with the house and need to make some repairs before we do. It would be easier on both of us if repairs were made after the house is vacant."

None of that was a lie, it just wasn't the truth they though it was. I am totally rehabbing the house right now and it's looking very good. Once it's done, I will put it on the market for rent. I'm sure they thought I was going to sell, but I never told them that. The house was expectedly trashed when I got it back, but they didn't destroy anything. Well, except for the coil on the HVAC. That was the final straw. They turned the filter the opposite direction and blew everything that was stuck on it through the furnace and totally clogged the coil. That's when they got the notice to move. Long story of how the filter got to be that bad in the first place, but processes have been revised and it won't happen again. Ultimately, it was my fault and I have taken responsibility, then made sure it won't happen again. --45.17.xxx.xxx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2024 10:55 AM
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Might an investor buy it w tenants in place? --172.59.xxx.xxx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2024 7:11 PM
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Thanks Doogie for your response. I will do something very similar to what you did.

--71.207.xxx.xx




Getting tenant to vacate (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Mar 19, 2024 11:41 PM
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I had this exact situation. I simply told them that our management had decided on other plans for the house. We gave them 60 days notice and said if they needed more time to let us know within the next week and we could arrange for an additional month if they paid in advance. We thanked them for being our tenant and said if they needed a reference to another landlord that we would do a "before and after" reference where we give them a reference before they are rented to and then another after they leave the house. Although by then they'd already be in the new place, this incentivizes them to leave the house nice because if we report to the new LL AFTER they move out that they left the place a mess...the new LL would probably either take immediate action or at least anticipate issues later...which would reflect poorly on the tenant. --64.38.xxx.xxx



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