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if section 8 fails inspec (by Carol G [MA]) Feb 19, 2024 3:24 PM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by plenty [MO]) Feb 19, 2024 3:59 PM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by Scott [IN]) Feb 19, 2024 6:05 PM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by plenty [MO]) Feb 19, 2024 8:20 PM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by 6x6 [TN]) Feb 19, 2024 9:15 PM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by Renne [TX]) Feb 19, 2024 9:40 PM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by Vee [OH]) Feb 19, 2024 9:52 PM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Feb 19, 2024 11:02 PM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 20, 2024 6:58 AM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by Steve [MA]) Feb 20, 2024 8:19 AM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by GKARL [PA]) Feb 20, 2024 8:13 PM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 21, 2024 9:08 AM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by jonny [NY]) Feb 21, 2024 11:45 AM
       if section 8 fails inspec (by mick [CA]) Feb 23, 2024 10:30 AM

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if section 8 fails inspec (by Carol G [MA]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2024 3:24 PM
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So section 8 inspections are really picky here, wondering if there is a "fail" , does the person lose their payment? Actually I would like to be rid of her as she is a major PITA. I suspect only minor problems in her unit,.but what if I don't fix them? --96.236.xxx.xxx




if section 8 fails inspec (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2024 3:59 PM
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In my area, I don't get paid but resident continues to live in the house. So fix. And end or exit contract first available time. But not for this reason. --172.59.xxx.xx




if section 8 fails inspec (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2024 6:05 PM
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Not fixing is not an option. For me, failures have been mostly small things like leaks and paint flakes. I did repairs quickly and never missed a payment. --107.141.xx.xxx




if section 8 fails inspec (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2024 8:20 PM
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To answer your question... No the person doesn't looSe there voucher. You will be given a time period to fix all and they reinspect and pass or fail. But the person doesn't looSe their couch. You may not get paid until it's fixed and they will continue to live there and you'll get paid back rent if any if any rent is withheld unless you don't fix them you won't get paid even if they move. --172.59.xxx.xxx




if section 8 fails inspec (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2024 9:15 PM
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Why would you not fix your rental?

What is this tenant doing that makes them a PITA?

--73.190.xxx.xxx




if section 8 fails inspec (by Renne [TX]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2024 9:40 PM
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Carol, as she is a pain, can you simply non renew rather than not correcting possible minor problems in your unit as a way to try and be rid of her? --12.196.xxx.xxx




if section 8 fails inspec (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2024 9:52 PM
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There are a few levels of failure, for example if you have missing smoke detector or battery you lose payment instantly, a damaged electrical cover instant payment drop - but in these scenarios the tenant does not go away - only the payment for a passing house, you don't want to do this, it could take a month before a re-inspection and the month following the passing inspection you will resume payments, you never recover for lost payments. you need to follow your state and local laws on cancelling the contract if that is what you wish to do, a lot of plaeces you issue a 30- 45 or 60 day notice of termination. A duplicate notice goes into sec8 office as to tenant - they need time to find anotherunit which will pas the HQS inspection, most HUD office websites have the HQS inspection guidelines, housing quality standards, in my area it is a 36 page inspection, if your place can not pass this you need to make repairs, it is that simple, no rippled flooring or floor coverings, every room must have a light and outlets must be wired correctly especially kitchen and bathrooms GFCI for countertops and or within 6 ft of water, once you go thru the list you will say - oh this is all common sense stuff, howevr if a tenant breaks things then you need to charge for repairs in the next rent cycle - if you wait till moveout time there may not be enough deposit to cover damaged items, here we read this often, don't get stuck on that part of the funds closed sign, best to return a full deposit by billimg for damage when it is damaged. --184.59.xxx.xx




if section 8 fails inspec (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2024 11:02 PM
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Fix to minimum standards where no loose paint, missing or loose tiles or missing receptacle covers. Then when contact expires increase rent so government can decide if the tenant will move to lower cost rental unit. The colour of paint does not have to match or tiles have match as long minimum standards are meet. In the end the rental unit can be slum but still pass minimum standards. No holes in wall or loose plaster witch is easy fix with durabond than touch up paint. Then when tenant is out can rent for market rent along avoid government. Cosmetic issues is not considered a building code violation. Get a copy or download building codes from town or city hall. When ever was dealing with governments they had to find some fault to show they inspected the rental unit. If utilities are included then consider switching out to where tenants control and pay for utilities. Consider contacting a landlords association where google to find or go into website to find a landlords association. Right now vacant rental unit are difficult to find where can bring up rent to market if major renovations are required. Population increase where housing is not increasing. --207.236.xxx.xxx




if section 8 fails inspec (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 20, 2024 6:58 AM
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These used to be called safety inspections, but I am told they are now referred to quality inspections now --24.101.xxx.xxx




if section 8 fails inspec (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Feb 20, 2024 8:19 AM
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Carol, if you're hoping to get rid of this tenant by purposely failing the yearly S8 inspection it won't work to your advantage.

The 2 PHAs that I regularly deal with both do things very differently however the one thing they both have in common is that depending upon why the unit fails they will give you anywhere from 7 - 30 or very rarely more days to correct the issue. During that time the PHA portion of the rent will not be paid to you. If the repairs are made & pass a reinspection, you will get the money however if the repairs are not made within the time allowed then the PHA portion of the rent will be abated & you won't get it.

One of the PHAs that I deal with notifies & encourages me or my representative to be present during their inspections. The other one doesn't want you to be there. In fact, they don't even notify you of the inspection time & date. They feel that the tenant will be intimidated by you being there.

One of these PHAs lists damages as tenant responsibility or LL responsibility. They still require the LL to fix the issue but will allow the LL to charge the tenant for the associated costs & actually put pressure on the tenant to pay. They will also give additional time for these repairs before they even consider abating the rent.

Judging by this & similar questions that you've posted, IMO you should reread your lease & your PHA contract then follow the directions for giving notice to terminate both the lease & the contract with this tenant. When I've had similar PIA subsidized or market tenants, I make sure that they receive a non-renewal notice a few days ahead of the official deadline for such notices. Depending upon how cooperative the tenants are I will either hand deliver 2 copies of the notice & have them sign one for me to retain or have a sheriff or local constable serve it to them. The key thing is you need to be able to prove that they received in on time. I hope that any notices that you've been sending this tenant is also cc to their case worker as well as any other agency that is involved.

FYI in MA if you want to change the terms of an existing rental agreement whether a term or MTM agreement you technically need to give the tenant a written notice to quit along with the offer of a new tenancy with the new terms. A few times I've given the NTQ along with an offer of a new tenancy with a substantial increase in the rent. Sometimes at least for me this has inspired the tenants to find a new place sooner rather than later.

When you are dealing with any of your tenants especially ones like this it's important from day one to maintain a through paper trail of everything that transpires starting from your initial contact until they properly vacate the unit & either get their accounting & SD returned or they pay any balance due for rent or damages.

--96.233.xxx.xx




if section 8 fails inspec (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Feb 20, 2024 8:13 PM
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Reminds me of why I avoid section 8. --209.122.xx.xxx




if section 8 fails inspec (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2024 9:08 AM
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Ray, they've been called "Housing Quality Standards" since the late eighties. HUD should do the following:

Eliminate the inspection dept and rely on local code emforcement

Use those funds toward the inevitable damage reimbusement

Make the HA responsible for collecting the tenant's share of the rent while sending the full rent directly to the LL. --172.58.xxx.xx




if section 8 fails inspec (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Feb 21, 2024 11:45 AM
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I think it would depend on the fail (what it is). If it's a safety or health thing... yeah, you need to do it anyway (such as smoke or carbon detectors, paint, replace a window pane, fix loose boards, etc). Now, if the TENANT is CAUSING the issue... then that's something different (meaning, if the TENANT broke the window... sure, fix it but the tenant has to pay UP FRONT for it, if the TENANT is continuously taking the detectors down... that's on them... go to the inspection and make sure the inspector sees them or put them up when they are there - better yet, have pics of when they moved in and a form that they sign indicating that they are there, the number of them, where they are and that they are working, etc).

Now, if it's something such as "bathroom needs an exhaust fan" but it's a half bath (as an example) or even a full bath but has a window... it doesn't NEED an exhaust... that's up to you to do it if you want. The inspector is being a difficult and should know that it isn't needed. --69.201.xx.xxx




if section 8 fails inspec (by mick [CA]) Posted on: Feb 23, 2024 10:30 AM
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@Carol - don't renew the contract, but fix the issues. One of my units recently failed an inspection because I didn't have a smoke detector outside the bedroom door and the gas furnance didn't work. Tenant admitted he never uses the furnance, so the pilot light was not on. --72.223.xx.xxx



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