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Wording unpaid util (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 17, 2024 7:02 AM
       Wording unpaid util (by Vee [OH]) Feb 17, 2024 7:35 AM
       Wording unpaid util (by Mike SWMO [MO]) Feb 17, 2024 8:01 AM
       Wording unpaid util (by Scott [IN]) Feb 17, 2024 9:33 AM
       Wording unpaid util (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 17, 2024 11:46 AM
       Wording unpaid util (by zero [IN]) Feb 17, 2024 5:49 PM
       Wording unpaid util (by WMH [NC]) Feb 19, 2024 2:11 PM
       Wording unpaid util (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 19, 2024 3:52 PM

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Wording unpaid util (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2024 7:02 AM
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How do you word unpaid utilities treated as unpaid rent in your lease? Renting out the SFH 3/1 and although keeping the water bill in my name (here it is attached to the property) the tenant will be paying for it.

Thx --216.182.xxx.xxx




Wording unpaid util (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2024 7:35 AM
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.4) UTILITIES: RESIDENT agrees to pay electric, gas and other utilities and/or services based upon occupancy of the premises including water/refuse/sewage fees as billed by the utility provider, this amount will be added to the next rent cycle and must be paid in full, the Housing Provider/Owner will furnish copies of utility billed in his/her name for tenant records. The exception being noted here_______________________________. Adult tenants sign here, (1) _________________________ , (2) ____________________________.

I send a monthly rent bill - learned the effectiveness of this about 10 years ago from NE in PA, saving the paid postage receipt proving bill sent to a verified address in a timely manner. --184.59.xxx.xx




Wording unpaid util (by Mike SWMO [MO]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2024 8:01 AM
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Mapleaf18

Not sure this helps but maybe something to consider.

As I read our state statutes, I keep noticing several sections start the section with “DEFINATIONS USED IN THIS SECTION”. They then define what a word or phrase means for THAT section. The same words or phrase in a different section may have a completely different meaning.

So… consider making a “Definitions“ section in your lease and define what you or how you want something to say or mean.

Here in MO our state law says that a sewer bill is chargeable to both the tenant and landowner. Meaning if the tenant does not pay the sewer bill, then the municipality can charge the land owner and if landowner doesn’t pay then the municipally can place a lien against the property and in three years put the land up for auction. If the city doesn’t put it up for auction, then in six years the bill is wiped out.

We used to be able to go to the town office and just ask how much the charge is. Not anymore. Now we have to have the tenant’s permission (mother may I game) to get the unpaid charges. However, I argued with the city clerk saying if I am or will be responsible for the sewer bill then I should be able to see what I will owe. She finally came around to my way of thinking and will now give me the unpaid charges each month.

I also have included in my lease that the tenant gives me permission to see “all utility bills and charges” before, during and after tenancy if any money is due and unpaid. Haven’t tested this with electric, gas and so on as these charges are not placed against me or my property. However, they would be a good indicator if the tenant is getting behind and may have trouble paying rent.

Interested in seeing how other respond to your question.

--174.130.xx.xxx




Wording unpaid util (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2024 9:33 AM
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After reading my lease, my lawyer told me to call rent "base rent" and to call other charges against the tenant "additional rent". A judge will award me possession or a judgement for unpaid rent, but not so much for unpaid utilities, fees, or charges. --107.141.xx.xxx




Wording unpaid util (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2024 11:46 AM
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Mike, the 4 plex we just purchased has a $600+ unpaid water bill still in arrears since the place was foreclosed on in 2017.

I definitely want to be able to go after the tenant for unpaid utility bills should there be one even though here the water and sewer bill is attached to the property and landowner

--172.58.xxx.xxx




Wording unpaid util (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Feb 17, 2024 5:49 PM
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The few water bills I still kept in my name I simply told the tenants that I would get the bill, pay it and send them a text. They had one week to pay the bill.

Couple of times I got someone who did an oops, but the only time I got hit for the water bill was when I had to evict. At that point the water bill was the least of my expenses.

--107.147.xx.xx




Wording unpaid util (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2024 2:11 PM
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We have an addendum in our lease called "Utilities" that spells out exactly how each service is handled for that unit.

Power, Water, Internet, Trash, Lawn, HVACs, even whether a mailbox is provided or not are all separately explained.

In NC I can't evict for unpaid utilities! But I can evict for Breach of Lease. A technicality yes, but it's important which box you check on the initial court filing.

I've never had to do it though - knock wood. I just know that's how it would be done if I had to. --173.28.xx.xxx




Wording unpaid util (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 19, 2024 3:52 PM
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Whom did you buy the property from, the previous owner, the water company or the bank? --24.101.xxx.xxx



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