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Property Tax appeal (by Karin [CA]) Feb 9, 2024 7:40 PM
       Property Tax appeal (by Vee [OH]) Feb 9, 2024 9:13 PM
       Property Tax appeal (by Jim In O C [CA]) Feb 9, 2024 9:28 PM
       Property Tax appeal (by Karin [CA]) Feb 9, 2024 9:46 PM
       Property Tax appeal (by Tony [NJ]) Feb 10, 2024 8:01 AM
       Property Tax appeal (by Jim in O C [CA]) Feb 10, 2024 10:27 AM
       Property Tax appeal (by Ken [NY]) Feb 10, 2024 10:34 AM
       Property Tax appeal (by plenty [MO]) Feb 10, 2024 10:50 AM
       Property Tax appeal (by Karin [CA]) Feb 10, 2024 1:28 PM
       Property Tax appeal (by plenty [MO]) Feb 10, 2024 5:52 PM
       Property Tax appeal (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 10, 2024 7:19 PM
       Property Tax appeal (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 10, 2024 9:14 PM
       Property Tax appeal (by Ken [NY]) Feb 10, 2024 9:56 PM
       Property Tax appeal (by dino [CA]) Feb 11, 2024 1:21 AM
       Property Tax appeal (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 12, 2024 7:04 AM

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Property Tax appeal (by Karin [CA]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2024 7:40 PM
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State Specific Question About: CALIFORNIA (CA)

Hello everyone,

I need legal help with my property tax assessment appeals.

Has anyone here had to hire an attorney to go with you before the board?

If so, how do I go about finding a Real Estate attorney that practices this particular issue?

i've called several & not finding any that have done this before.

TIA --172.83.xxx.x




Property Tax appeal (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2024 9:13 PM
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Did it myself, you must find similar construction - same sq footage, 3 houses with lower taxes than you were assesed, the average is the lowest you can ask for, only use improvement - not the land value. I have not won every time but that is the method used on the east coast. --184.59.xxx.xx




Property Tax appeal (by Jim In O C [CA]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2024 9:28 PM
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You could try paying for a fee appraisal of your property and then submit the findings to the assessors office for review. If you hire an attorney, you’re probably looking at a minimum $400 an hour. --23.162.xx.x




Property Tax appeal (by Karin [CA]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2024 9:46 PM
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Thank you for the replies.

I really need to find an attorney, but don't know if there's a particular designation besides Real Estate attorney.

Back story:

I appealed the assessment for the last 5 years.

In the "fine print" of the appeals paperwork it says they can also raise the assessment for the year in question.

That's exactly what the County is doing!

They say that the property was under assessed for those years.

His the want me to pay the balance between what I paid and what the new assessed amount is.

This doesnt sound right to me.

In addition I have a neighbor property that is a private nuisance that's connected to this issue, but I'll have to make a separate post. --172.83.xxx.x




Property Tax appeal (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2024 8:01 AM
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I've done tax appeals in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. There are many differences in the rules and protocol in different states. You really need to learn about the process in California and should probably get an accredited professional to represent you. Let us know how you make out and good luck to you. --73.215.xxx.xx




Property Tax appeal (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2024 10:27 AM
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PS: if you have a realtor friend have them pull a few of the property profiles on properties Identical or very similar to yours and see what their taxes are. The more data you can gather the less expensive a lawyer visit will be.

. --23.162.xx.x




Property Tax appeal (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2024 10:34 AM
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I have done many in the past but they were pretty basic, $90000 assessment but i paid $40000 so it was pretty easy.I recall there were a couple companies that did this kind of work for a percentage of the savings but i dont believe they were attorneys --74.77.xx.xx




Property Tax appeal (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2024 10:50 AM
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In my state , yes there comes a time when a lawyer has to write a letter of request. Anyway up to that point I had done it myself. --172.59.xxx.xxx




Property Tax appeal (by Karin [CA]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2024 1:28 PM
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My problem is more complicated than just getting comparable market sales. Thank you for all the responses. --172.83.xxx.x




Property Tax appeal (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2024 5:52 PM
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I just phoned a few attorneys, they weren't necessarily real estate attorneys but the practices law in my area. After you phone a few you get leads, if they can't help you, who do they recommend. That's what I did. Sometimes we make it complicated, suggest just telling them what's going on (in three sentences) and let them tell you if they can assist. Start with "can you help me?" --172.59.xxx.xx




Property Tax appeal (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2024 7:19 PM
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Instead of an attorney that can cost you up to $12,000 in billings, I hire a professional Property Tax Specialist. For a percentage of your first reduced tax bill, like 30%, they will go before the board and argue your case. --47.155.xx.xxx




Property Tax appeal (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2024 9:14 PM
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Karin,

I don't know CA procedure.

I THOUGHT I knew my local procedure so I spent $6000 on appraisals. Turns out they don't use appraisals to assess. Total waste.

They use the rent x a multiplier.

We can meet with a person and work out a number, no board hearing needed.

A local realtor evolved into a property tax consultant. Probably who you need - a person who knows property values, property taxes, the officials, and how to make them happy. Probably has lunch with them on Tuesdays.

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




Property Tax appeal (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 10, 2024 9:56 PM
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Brad, so a good operator is punished for collecting more rent than his neighbor.How do they know you are being honest with the rent amount you give them? --74.77.xx.xx




Property Tax appeal (by dino [CA]) Posted on: Feb 11, 2024 1:21 AM
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Karin,

There are law firms and individual attorneys that specialize in state and local tax issues in California, as opposed to Federal income tax.

Depending on the law office, they specialize in things like business tax, property tax, sales tax, documentary transfer tax.

In addition. as Robert J mentioned above, there are Property Tax Specialists, some of those even though they might not require a lawyer might also bill at an expensive hourly rate or they might bill in the way Robert J mentioned. However, they might also have people in their company they are appraisers as well.

I have never used any of them so I cannot give you a recommendation with any confidence in their quality.

I can tell you that some lawyers in California have a specialization in tax law listed on the California State Bar website sorted by county BUT most of those probably deal with income tax disputes with the IRS and will lack the knowledge and experience of an assessment appeal specialist whether that specialist is a lawyer or not.

You can search for an attorney that is a Property Tax Specialist or a non-lawyer that is an Assessment Appeals Specialist in your area but ideally you would want someone to recommend such a person or company that knew they were good.

You are right to not assume that real estate lawyers would automatically know about this field. Many do not but as mentioned above by Plenty, a quality real estate lawyer or a quality income tax lawyer might have a good recommendation for you.

Also, whether you need a lawyer might depend on the complexity of the issue. A non-lawyer assessment appeals specialist might be fine for a simple disagreement on value but some issues might require greater knowledge of the law.

An advantage of someone that will appeal it on a contingency arrangement with you is that if the County is correct and it has been under assessed, you might avoid paying for something that doesn't help.

--172.116.xxx.xxx




Property Tax appeal (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 12, 2024 7:04 AM
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I had a commercial place, a Pizza Hut over in Dixon Illinois that was getting charged over $30,000 in property taxes annually. It cost me about $5,000 for an appraisal and the taxes were cut down to about $16,000.

On commercial real estate $1 saved is multiplied by the Cap Rate of that period to get you what the increase in value to you. So that one action allowed me to gain almost $200,000 in equity. Was that $5,000 well spent?

So with you being in California and having Prop 13 in place, you need to hire someone who knows your local process. Without knowing if this place is residential or commercial, no one can really answer you that well --24.101.xxx.xxx



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