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Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 6, 2024 7:43 AM
       Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 6, 2024 7:46 AM
       Certified Mail (by Jason [VA]) Feb 6, 2024 8:37 AM
       Certified Mail (by NE [PA]) Feb 6, 2024 8:39 AM
       Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 6, 2024 9:01 AM
       Certified Mail (by NE [PA]) Feb 6, 2024 9:07 AM
       Certified Mail (by NE [PA]) Feb 6, 2024 9:17 AM
       Certified Mail (by Vee [OH]) Feb 6, 2024 9:58 AM
       Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 6, 2024 10:36 AM
       Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 6, 2024 10:38 AM
       Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 6, 2024 10:43 AM
       Certified Mail (by Tim [CA]) Feb 6, 2024 10:44 AM
       Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 6, 2024 11:22 AM
       Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Feb 6, 2024 11:28 AM
       Certified Mail (by Allym [NJ]) Feb 6, 2024 12:37 PM
       Certified Mail (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 6, 2024 1:33 PM
       Certified Mail (by Simplify [NY]) Feb 6, 2024 4:11 PM
       Certified Mail (by jonny [NY]) Feb 7, 2024 2:19 PM
       Certified Mail (by jonny [NY]) Feb 7, 2024 2:22 PM
       Certified Mail (by Small potatoes [NY]) Feb 7, 2024 11:18 PM
       Certified Mail (by Robert J [CA]) Feb 8, 2024 12:34 AM
       Certified Mail (by Ken [NY]) Feb 8, 2024 12:31 PM

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Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 7:43 AM
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STATE SPECIFIC New York

NYS 2019 Law says you have to send any late rent notices via certified mail. Which is an added expense and they never claim the letter to begin with.

For those tenants that you are not planning on evicting or non renewal in the next 3-4 months, do you just send it snail mail and forego the ridiculous 2019 laws?

In my case, Mr. Casanova and his roommate claimed "Covid" and supposedly were out of work for a week. This is my one unit that is not on such a great street, approximately a C minus pocket. They were late on the rent in December (blamed it on their non approved roommate moving out) and again this month.

Problem is, hubby had to go there to fix a "draft" complaint and heard them laughing, playing vid games, smoking MJ with the window cracked open (also one of my few apts where I allow smoking/vaping). They both are garnishable, btw.

I'm most likely going to non-renew come May 1st. I've already suggested to them that they look for a 2 bdrm, less expensive apt. although if they had their priorities straight, they should easily be able to afford this unit IMHO. They are now in my 3 bdrm and one of the bdrms is a "gaming room."

--64.246.xxx.xxx




Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 7:46 AM
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Another thought would be to send it certified, no return receipt requested so it would just go to their mailbox without their signature or having to sign for it. I believe the 2019 laws don't specify return receipt. --64.246.xxx.xxx




Certified Mail (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 8:37 AM
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If the Le doesn’t specify that a return receipt is required, then I would just send it without. In VA, we’re just required to send it using a certificate of mailing, which is proof that the notice was mailed, not proof that it was ever received. --172.58.xxx.xx




Certified Mail (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 8:39 AM
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Any official notices like this, I pay a constable $50 to post the door. If they’re home, the guy with the badge and the gun tends gets the point across and I get paid pretty quick after that. What’s the similar option in your state? --24.152.xxx.xx




Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 9:01 AM
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Here the Civil dept of the sheriff processes income executions, warrants, notification.

Never gotten by under $95. --64.246.xxx.xxx




Certified Mail (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 9:07 AM
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Add into your lease that notices like this will be charged to the tenant. --24.152.xxx.xx




Certified Mail (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 9:17 AM
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In the very few times that you should realistically be getting to this point as a landlord, you need to hammer them hard. The 95 bucks is money well spent for law-enforcement to show up. --24.152.xxx.xx




Certified Mail (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 9:58 AM
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Sending registered will verify the address is on a route handled at that post office, if the adress is non existant they can not deliver, certified is the green card, I find they do not sign for it but when registered you get a reciept proving it was in fact sent to a valid address. --184.59.xxx.xx




Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 10:36 AM
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Vee, I just saw a video on registered mail and it in fact does require a signature. I will be sending it certified, no return receipt required and snail mail.

Already drew up the non-renewal notice for May 1st which I will be sending out the end of March. Even though it is EXTREMELY hard to find responsible tenants in this particular block.

We have a VERY lazy postal service here in this town and half the time it comes back "not at this address" "address unknown" or "unable to deliver" when I know darn well they are still there and they have a mailbox.

It could also be that the postal worker thinks the building is still unoccupied as most of the bldgs we rehab have been sitting idle for at least 3 yrs or more.

Happened to me with Ms. Excuses and Mr. Casanova. Same downstairs apt. I think I will be exorcising this downstairs apartment when it is next vacant! --64.246.xxx.xxx




Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 10:38 AM
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Vee, in other words, I don't' want to spend the $9 to send certified every time and have the extra little errand of signing for it at the post office when it comes bouncing back unopened and unclaimed. --64.246.xxx.xxx




Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 10:43 AM
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NE, We also have a very lazy Sheriff dept that will attempt it 3 times in the morning (they work B shift so don't answer the door before 11:30 a.m.) Highly unlikely the would answer the door if they saw a cop at the doorstep either.

I just get a paper back saying they "attempted" to contact the person 3 times. They do not affix the citation to the door that I know of. Most of the people in this town would just rip it off as soon as it was received and toss it. --64.246.xxx.xxx




Certified Mail (by Tim [CA]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 10:44 AM
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As you describe the property, I doubt you'll ever be happy with the type of tenants that neighborhood will attract. I'd sell the place. --108.201.xx.xx




Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 11:22 AM
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Tim,

I proposed 1031ing the place over to another multifamily on the nicer block that we already own four properties in.

Hubby is not quite convinced yet. --64.246.xxx.xxx




Certified Mail (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 11:28 AM
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Net receipts on the place (3 bdrm up/ 3 bdrm down)

was $17,687 last year. My more "well established" unit in the better area was net receipts of $11,668 last year (2 up/ 3 down) --64.246.xxx.xxx




Certified Mail (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 12:37 PM
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I send on certified. It comes back but evidence in court. I send one regular mail and post one on the door or slip it under the door. Haven't had to do this for years... --173.61.xxx.xxx




Certified Mail (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 1:33 PM
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Maybe you need to also send deposit checks certified too.

Wink wink --24.101.xxx.xxx




Certified Mail (by Simplify [NY]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2024 4:11 PM
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We are also in NY

We send the '5 day' certified (only - no regular mail)

We buy the special stickers so we don't need an envelope lol - just fold the paper, sticker closed on each end, and send certified

Yes it works lol, we sent one to ourselves to 'test' (fun fact, technically you can't have the return address match the "to" on a certified).

If you're not evicting and will be non-renewing, why send the 5-day letter at all? I believe the 5-day is only required so you can ask for a judgment on that amount. You can have both a payment demand AND a nonrenewal in NY, although we usually just choose one... --104.255.xx.xx




Certified Mail (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2024 2:19 PM
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It's a stupid law... because if you are going to end up filing eviction and take them to court (14 day, etc) you can't even collect (or include) the fees in to what they owe you... ONLY the rent.

So what is the purpose of sending them a certified mail indicating they are late and "now you owe me XX"?

I've yet to be asked "did you send them a notice indicating they were late"? The Marshal does that for me "you are indebted to jonny for $XXX... you have 14 days to pay or quit".

There's your notice! Mailed, certified mailed and either handed to you (if you answer the door) or POSTED to your door. --69.201.xx.xxx




Certified Mail (by jonny [NY]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2024 2:22 PM
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I think it was because the then pos governor had no idea and was so full of himself that he decreed that across the land of NYS the all mighty ruler has spoken and you will now need to inform your tenants that they are late on the rent before you can evict them.

Yeah.. no kidding goofball... but honestly, I'm sure there were (and there still are) LL that don't follow the law anyway and they will get Brutus to go over and "handle" the tenants that aren't paying.

I saw it pre 2019 and I've seen it post 2019. So it still happens... they just think they quashed it but they didn't. --69.201.xx.xxx




Certified Mail (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2024 11:18 PM
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It only costs me 4.60 to send a certified letter, which does not have to include return receipt w the green card. I send it because my letter also says you are on the slippery Slope and this can lead to eviction.

Jonny, no one has asked you, but if a future tenant gets a decent atty, and they ask for proof, you are back to zero hr.

Mapleleaf, If you are worried the letter carrier will miss them put their names on a mailbox. Notifying in March for may means they are 1st year tenants, correct? --67.240.xx.xx




Certified Mail (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Feb 8, 2024 12:34 AM
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This is what I have to do to effect proper service.

1) Send a copy via certified mail with a return request receipt.

2) Put a copy in the mail with a tracking number so I'll have proof of service, notification.

3) Send a copy to the City of Los Angeles Housing Department, required by law now.

4) Post a copy between the exterior security door and the tenants wooden door. Taking a picture.

5) Give a copy to another tenant to effect personal service.

Then when in court and they say they never saw the notice, I have 5 levels of proof. --47.155.xx.xxx




Certified Mail (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 8, 2024 12:31 PM
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Jonny, I believe the only reason they required a letter to go to the tenant before the eviction letter is because a lot of landlords will say that is stupid and not do it and when the tenant gets to court with the legal aid attorney they will point ot out to the judge and your whole case will be thrown out based on that. --74.77.xx.xx



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