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can't do a neg report? (by mark h [MA]) Nov 9, 2023 5:53 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by Pat [VA]) Nov 9, 2023 6:08 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by Bonanza [NC]) Nov 9, 2023 6:29 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by WMH [NC]) Nov 9, 2023 7:36 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by Jason [VA]) Nov 9, 2023 7:44 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by NE [PA]) Nov 9, 2023 7:47 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Nov 9, 2023 8:13 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by mark h [MA]) Nov 9, 2023 9:10 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by NE [PA]) Nov 9, 2023 9:16 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Nov 9, 2023 9:23 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by Vee [OH]) Nov 10, 2023 12:04 AM
       can't do a neg report? (by Steve [MA]) Nov 10, 2023 6:23 AM
       can't do a neg report? (by mark h [MA]) Nov 10, 2023 6:42 AM
       can't do a neg report? (by unb [GA]) Nov 10, 2023 6:52 AM
       can't do a neg report? (by S i d [MO]) Nov 10, 2023 8:12 AM
       can't do a neg report? (by S i d [MO]) Nov 10, 2023 8:24 AM
       can't do a neg report? (by S i d [MO]) Nov 10, 2023 8:26 AM
       can't do a neg report? (by W [CA]) Nov 10, 2023 11:36 AM
       can't do a neg report? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Nov 10, 2023 11:50 AM
       can't do a neg report? (by Jim in O C [CA]) Nov 10, 2023 12:02 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by zero [IN]) Nov 10, 2023 12:30 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by MessManager [IN]) Nov 10, 2023 12:57 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Nov 11, 2023 6:49 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by Robin [WI]) Nov 11, 2023 8:21 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Nov 12, 2023 8:04 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by tryan [MA]) Nov 14, 2023 4:38 PM
       can't do a neg report? (by plenty [MO]) Nov 14, 2023 4:51 PM

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can't do a neg report? (by mark h [MA]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2023 5:53 PM
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Got together with a couple of LL's that have a number of properties,and the discussion came up about doing a reference. They said you cannot do a negative one anymore! What is thee sense of reports/references if they can't be truthful. I believe I got a OK reference last year to one of the worse tenants I have ever had,...because of this rule? --96.236.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by Pat [VA]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2023 6:08 PM
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I find it difficult to get real landlords to talk to you. Especially the companies. Everyone is afraid of getting sued.

I am thinking of asking to see all rental receipts for the last year or two since it is getting harder, plus start doing home visits as I never have. Around here, people will think you have lost your mind. --216.126.xx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2023 6:29 PM
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I give honest reports to those that ask. I am not afraid of being sued for that because the facts are the facts.

I find most people will give an honest report except large apartment complexes. They just give you a generic response. If you can get their rental ledger then the answers you seek are often there. --65.188.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2023 7:36 PM
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Were they ever late?

Did they get their Deposit back in full?

Would you rent to them again?

Most will answer those questions, and that's enough info for me (along with everything else.) --173.18.xx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by Jason [VA]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2023 7:44 PM
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ďCanítĒ. Haha ok --71.63.xx.xx




can't do a neg report? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2023 7:47 PM
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Call and get your references. If someone calls you, tell them the truth. --174.240.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2023 8:13 PM
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Most LLs, due to fear of being sued will just ghost you. That is telling all by itself. NEXT! --64.246.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by mark h [MA]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2023 9:10 PM
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OK but,,is it a LAW? This lady is a real pro, she utilizes every free legal angle she can... out of over a hundred tenants over the years I would count her as the worst. Yet I got a positive reference from her last LL. Claimed to lived with family before then. --73.159.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2023 9:16 PM
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Who cares? If you call and ask and they break the law telling you, thatís their problem. And as far as I know, you can still speak the truth. I give you permission

PS: The last landlord have you a great reference because he wanted her out of the unit and you took her. --24.152.xxx.xx




can't do a neg report? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2023 9:23 PM
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You can be honest and not give a negative report.

Someone calls and ask me about a tenant and I don't want to give a negative report I say-

"Are you asking if I would ever rent to this tenant again the answer would be NO!. I believe that should help you in making any decisions. Have a good day"

I have also said the same thing with a yes answer but I don't want to spend that much time on giving a positive reference either. I am loosing a keeper at that point. --24.101.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 12:04 AM
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Once it is recorded by the court it is public record. --184.59.xxx.xx




can't do a neg report? (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 6:23 AM
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Mark, in my 50+ years as a MA LL who has had 100's of tenants, I can recall less than a dozen or so times that an individual LL or management company ever contacted me for a tenant reference. The few times that I've been asked by a management company they have provided me with a signed copy of a release from my tenant authorizing me to do so. As far as giving info to other Landlords, it's always been my policy to not give any specific financial info & to only answer questions without volunteering extra info.

As part of my rental application, I have a clause & I presume that most other LLs have a similar one that reads something like this:

By signing this application, you realize that you are authorizing us and our agents to contact past and present landlords, employers, creditors, credit bureaus, neighbors and any other seemed deemed necessary to investigate you. All information gathered by us shall remain confidential.

The undersigned warrants and represents that all statements herein are correct and true to the best of their knowledge.

Personally, I've found that I get my best info from their previous LLs & running them through the MA court registry.

This popped up in a quick search for info on MA LLs requesting info on potential tenants.

According to the federal Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA), landlords may not share tenant credit information with anyone without a legal reason to view it 1. This includes giving a reference to a prospective landlord. Therefore, a landlord in MA would need their tenantís permission to disclose any credit-related information to another party.

However, a landlord may be able to give a reference based on other aspects of the tenancy, such as the tenantís behavior, cleanliness, or compliance with the lease terms. The landlord should still be careful not to violate the tenantís privacy or make any false or defamatory statements that could harm the tenantís reputation.

--72.93.xxx.xx




can't do a neg report? (by mark h [MA]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 6:42 AM
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thank you all, great information,,,

Steve, yes,I'm going to change my rental contract to make those changes, thank you. --73.159.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by unb [GA]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 6:52 AM
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How in this world can you even trust a current or previous LL?

Now if we all did our part and file dispos when tenants don't pay-- not talking 2 or 4 weeks after the fact but when its legal to do--NOW we are-- we you and me---- are letting others know this person doesn't pay their rent.

We only rely on credit report (whole enchilada) and court records. --108.239.xx.xx




can't do a neg report? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 8:12 AM
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Of course you can give a negative report. Telling the truth is not illegal.

Here's what I usually say when someone contacts me: "I cannot give this tenant a positive reference."

See what I did there? I didn't give a negative reference, but what did I tell the requesting landlord?

Any intelligent manager will read between the words and get what I'm saying. It's not that I don't WANT to give a positive reference, it's that I CAN'T give a positive reference. So, by default that means....

--184.4.xx.xx




can't do a neg report? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 8:24 AM
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For you sports fans out there:

"If this tenant's time with me were a football season, they played as well as the Carolina Panthers in 2023."

"This tenant was the Chicago Cubs of tenants."

"Their respect for our lease was similar to Nancy Kerrigan's respect for Tanya Harding."

C'mon... have a little fun with this! --184.4.xx.xx




can't do a neg report? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 8:26 AM
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Oops, flipped those two ice skaters. I'll take my humble pie a la mode! Anyway, you get the idea...

--184.4.xx.xx




can't do a neg report? (by W [CA]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 11:36 AM
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When I got my last reference call about an evicted tenant - eviction record hidden, the new prospective LL asked: Did this T pay the rent on time? I started laughing and laughing and said you are calling me to joke with me? I cannot answer this question due to a settlement. Next question please. Would you rent to this T again? Laughter - I think you are very funny, this is hilarious! You are making jokes again? I'm sorry, but due to a legal settlement, I cannot answer this question. Any more questions about this T? Yes, off the record, can you tell me anything about this T? Was she evicted? Sorry, I cannot discuss whether this T was evicted due to a settlement, but feel free to tell me more jokes about this T - I like to laugh! LOL --68.7.xx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 11:50 AM
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In decades of landlording, I have never had a bad tenant try to use me as a reference. I'm happy to give a good reference for a good tenant. If they have been good to me, I will reciprocate and be fair to them.

The lesson here being that bad tenants get friends to pretend to be their landlord, so that is something that has to be carefully verified.

Never believe anything that an applicant tells you until after you verify it from an independent source. --76.178.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 12:02 PM
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The way you answer an inquiry tells a lot about the tenant. If I have a really bad one, I request a notarized authorization to release information, and that in itself says watch out. --146.70.xxx.xx




can't do a neg report? (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 12:30 PM
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I added a line in my application that included giving information to possible future landlords. Not sure if the judge will care, but it is in there now. --107.147.xx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by MessManager [IN]) Posted on: Nov 10, 2023 12:57 PM
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I charge verbal lease violation noticing (My time is valuable), written lease violation noticing, and legal lease violation noticing.

This includes noticing past due utility bills, failure to maintain the property, parking violations, and motorcycles inside the apartment. Common sense says anything that has an engine and produces flumes can not be inside the apartments. (He removed the motorcycles and paid the fee or Immediate eviction would have been filed.)

Resident must log into Portal and submit a task requesting rental history verification to a specific entity or person. I only give written payment history.

If former residents need rental verification, they must provide it from the email on their application. I am not taking any chances with quickly changing laws. --134.215.xx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Posted on: Nov 11, 2023 6:49 PM
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"I'd rather not say".

But they rented to your right? Would you rent to them again?

"I'd rather not say".

Now what landlord with at least half a brain wouldn't get the message?

--24.2.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Nov 11, 2023 8:21 PM
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I refuse to live in fear. I give truthful, factual answers. Fortunately, I've been blessed with great tenants. Only had one that was a bad tenant, and her new LL didn't call to ask for a reference. --104.230.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Nov 12, 2023 8:04 PM
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The is case law I learned back in grad school. A driver for Dominos came with a glowing reference. And then one day while returning from delivering a pizza, he picked up a woman in the rain. He attacked, raped and killed her.

That glowing reference was later shown to be false as they were fired from that job after striking someone. The company giving the false refence was sued by Dominos after Dominos was sued.

If facts are shared - you will be alright. --24.101.xxx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2023 4:38 PM
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Never put much in what a reference said. Could bee a friend/relative ... But when I give references it's truth.

Mentioned the bank owned drug den I cleaned out in other threads. One junky/prostitute was applying to S8. USED ME AS A REFERENCE ...lol. Police reports for an OD and eviction judgement attached to the written S8 reference. AND this person was a police chiefs daughter (in another town). Can't make this stuff up!! --198.168.xx.xxx




can't do a neg report? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Nov 14, 2023 4:51 PM
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Just consider all applications not qualified. And let those provide you wrong. I had a LL tell me "oh honey, don't let those folks move into your property, they will tear it up, like they did mine" took that as not a good LL reference and rejected them without saying a word. Had I not phoned and she said that I would have a rough house as they presented themselves well. At that time I wasn't doing home visits but had I had that tool i could have verified who was telling the truth. Maybe she just didn't want to loose a good one. --172.56.xx.xx



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