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short-term rental restric (by Tony [NJ]) Sep 8, 2023 7:19 AM
       short-term rental restric (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Sep 8, 2023 7:34 AM
       short-term rental restric (by Still Learning [NH]) Sep 8, 2023 9:02 AM
       short-term rental restric (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Sep 8, 2023 9:04 AM
       short-term rental restric (by S i d [MO]) Sep 8, 2023 12:54 PM
       short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Sep 8, 2023 1:30 PM
       short-term rental restric (by Ken [NY]) Sep 8, 2023 2:52 PM
       short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Sep 8, 2023 3:04 PM
       short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Sep 8, 2023 3:06 PM
       short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Sep 8, 2023 4:49 PM
       short-term rental restric (by Ken [NY]) Sep 8, 2023 7:45 PM
       short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Sep 8, 2023 8:02 PM
       short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Sep 8, 2023 8:18 PM
       short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Sep 8, 2023 8:20 PM
       short-term rental restric (by Ken [NY]) Sep 8, 2023 8:50 PM
       short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Sep 8, 2023 8:56 PM
       short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Sep 8, 2023 9:06 PM
       short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Sep 8, 2023 9:49 PM
       short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Sep 8, 2023 9:50 PM
       short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Sep 8, 2023 10:05 PM
       short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Sep 8, 2023 10:11 PM
       short-term rental restric (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Sep 8, 2023 10:59 PM
       short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Sep 9, 2023 6:11 AM

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short-term rental restric (by Tony [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 7:19 AM
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washingtonexaminer.com

NYC short-term rental restrictions go into effect, threatening thousands of Airbnb listings

Eden Villalovas 3Ė4 minutes

September 06, 2023 12:55 PM

New regulations requiring hosts to register their property with New York City in order to provide short-term leases went into effect on Tuesday after a lengthy battle between Airbnb and the city.

A new law, pushed by the city in 2021, aimed to block illegal short-term rentals by requiring hosts to register with the Mayorís Office of Special Enforcement. Rentals less than 30 days will be affected, threatening listings on platforms like Vrbo and Airbnb. Short-term rental hosts sued the city to prevent the regulations under Local Law 18 from taking place. The New York Supreme Court delayed the provisions to start Sept. 5 but dismissed the lawsuit in early August.

Airbnb has called the rules a ďde facto banĒ on short-term rentals and said it will damage the cityís tourism economy. New York City has more than 40,000 Airbnb listings, and Airbnb claims the law will remove thousands of listings from the platforms. Airbnb has also said the law will affect more than 80,000 guests who have booked stays starting on or after Sept. 5.

ďThe city is sending a clear message to millions of potential visitors who will now have fewer accommodation options when they visit New York City: you are not welcome," Theo Yedinsky, the global policy director for Airbnb, said in a statement sent to the Washington Examiner last month.

City officials claimed that in 2022, as many as 10,000 short-term rentals listed on Airbnb were illegal, amounting to $85 million in net revenue, but the company has disputed the figures.

New York City also included a change to how many guests can board at a time, asserting no more than two guests are allowed to stay at a time and proposed a fine of $5,000 if violated. The company pushed back on the regulation and was joined by groups such as Restore Homeowner Autonomy and Rights to call for new regulations.

ďWe had no voice in the creation of this law, but we need our lawmakers to hear our voices now," Jean L., a RHOAR member and organizer, said in a statement sent to the Washington Examiner. ďSimply put, homes will be lost, creating yet another housing crisis in this City without immediate action.Ē --73.215.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 7:34 AM
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I have to believe that hotels are pushing hard to get rules like this passed. They are the biggest losers in AirBnB battle. --24.101.xxx.xxx




short-term rental restric (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 9:02 AM
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Not just hotels, too many units converting from long term to short term housing as well. That is the issue in resort towns. Not enough long term rentals for employees. --73.218.xx.xxx




short-term rental restric (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 9:04 AM
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The problem in New York that many rentals require major repairs and renovations which can easily cost up $50,000 dollars where the rent control or rent stabilization has forced owners to take off the market. If is beyond with a rent of $700 per month to spend for repairs and renovations where will be a loss forever. Does rent control improve the quantity and quality of rental house where that is no. Can any business operate at a loss no. if the city wants to create more rental housing than city should offer grants to bring back more rental units or allow vacant rental units to go to market. The city would go to the grocery then expect to operate at a loss. What has happened with rent control and hostile eviction in the province of Ontario is many of the smaller operations sold out to large corporations where they evict then rents are double and triple. The community housing authority is not under rent control so wonder why. --74.220.xxx.xxx




short-term rental restric (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 12:54 PM
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"Rentals less than 30 days will be affected, threatening listings on platforms like Vrbo and Airbnb"

Welcome to the rise in popularity of the 31 day rental listing with free early cancelation and full refunds for unused days.

That's the problem with bureaucrats: they underestimate the fast-thinking and creativity of entrepreneurs. This ordinance will take folks a few hours to figure out ways to get around it, even if they don't do the idea I mentioned above. It will be similar to speakeasies in the 1920s... there will be a "code" of some kind used to alert folks to what they're wanting, and when they use that, the hosts will understand and provide it. Or, they'll simply go underground with off-market deals through some kind of illicit brokers or what have you.

Prohibition doesn't work. We tried that and it failed miserably with alcohol. We're trying it right now with drugs and that's a joke. If the market wants X, the market will get X.

People have a right to do what they want with their property, as long as it doesn't harm someone else directly. In this case, no one is really harmed directly: hotels are simply losing to the competition, but rather than find better ways to draw in customers, they run to the law makers to try to keep ahold of their monopoly. It won't work.

It's funny in a way. Hundreds of years ago before mega hotel chains, your average accommodation in a town was often a farmer's barn or a wealthy person's house where they'd rent rooms to travelers. Seems like we're just shifted back that way, because most people like a "home" to be in when they travel and are staying for more than a couple of days. They want a kitchen, a living room, and maybe a nice private pool that isn't filled with loud, drunk parents who let their kids rum amok.

--70.57.xx.xxx




short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 1:30 PM
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"People have a right to do what they want with their property, as long as it doesn't harm someone else directly." Zoning laws disagree. Even the most ardent conservatives here defend it.

I'd like to see zoning laws completely dismantled and buried, let property owners build whatever they want . --68.56.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 2:52 PM
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David,I am the ardent conservative who believes in zoning laws.I live in a single family neighborhood zoned single family and i live here for a reason,i want the stability of knowing whoever lives near me has an interest in the neighborhood staying in good shape and isnt renting it to whoever shows up for 2 or 3 days to party,if that happened next door to me i am not sure what i would do,i would be nice once then the owner would wish he never bought the property to rent it short term.

David- you say let property owners build whatever they want,you would be ok with a convenience store moving in next door to you in a neighborhood of single family homes? how about a strip club or a factory? --74.77.xx.xx




short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 3:04 PM
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I live next door to a assisted living facility and a dense townhouse development. Try again

Free market for me but not for thee! --68.56.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 3:06 PM
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Like Sid, I believe in the free market and that letting the free market make decisions, instead of big government, will result in the best outcomes --68.56.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 4:49 PM
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Youíre just as much of a nimby as everyone else David, you just have found your boundary yet. --24.152.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 7:45 PM
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David, you chose to live there i assume after the facility was already in place or at the least the zoning was in place,it wasnt shoved down your throat.What if the assisted living facility closed down and a strip club moved in? --74.77.xx.xx




short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 8:02 PM
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I chose to live there the same way you choose to buy a certain type of gun or capacity magazine because government regulation makes it so. It's laughable to say something isn't shoved down your throat when the government limits your choice.

Why would you care anymore if someone built a strip club on their property than if they owned AR-15s? Neither is the governmentz business --68.56.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 8:18 PM
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Typical liberal deflection. --24.152.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 8:20 PM
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And so it is now, that wanting private property rights respected and eliminating governments heavy hand in what can be built is not conservative small government, but liberal.

Whoda thunk --68.56.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 8:50 PM
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So you would be ok with a strip club moving in? wonder how your wife explains to the kids what is going on next door.You didnt answer my question but i assume you wont now.So you probably wouldnt care if a pig farm moved in next door either i suppose.Owning an AR-15 is a constitutional right and doesnt affect me if my neighbor has one,actually could very well come to my benefit in time of trouble.By the way an AR-15 is a pretty weaK weapon,I much prefer an AK-47 --74.77.xx.xx




short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 8:56 PM
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Organizing communities isnít big government or BAD government if done properly. Telling landlords that they canít raise rents when or how they want IS big and bad government.

Telling a landlord that he canít discriminate based on race or religion isnít big or bad government, thatís common sense IF THEY QUALIFY. (although a landlord should be able to) However, good business sense handles that WITHOUT fair housing rules.

Telling landlords that they canít evict for 2-3 years because of the scamdemic is big and BAD and atrocious over reach government. Limiting gun purchases to violent felons isnít big government or bad government, thatís proper governing. Creating stupid laws that create MORE felons (bump stock bans, etc) is big and bad government.

Thereís a lot to this. --24.152.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 9:06 PM
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Here David, this is how you become a fan of zoning real quick. Trust me when I say this, you donít want a guy like me having free reign of building whatever I want wherever I want to. I already skirt rules when I can and I will stick stuff anywhere I can if it makes money.

If you have a primary residence worth $500,000 house in a community with no zoning, I will absolutely buy the foreclosure next door to you and bust it up into 8 units that cash flows if I canít make the numbers work as a straight up flip.

Iíve already done similar. In townships without zoning and without permission in townships WITH zoning. --24.152.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 9:49 PM
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Ah yes, I see. It just boils down to government telling people what you do is okay IF you agree with it.

It's none of my business and doesn't affect me what my neighbor builds on his property, strip club, McDonald's, 8unit apt. That's what private property rights used to mean, until the supreme Court gutted it 100years ago.

--68.56.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 9:50 PM
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Here , I'll answer your question ken, it's a hell of a lot easier to explain a strip club to my kids than explaining how their friends head got blown off by someone with an AR-15 --68.56.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 10:05 PM
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A firing range would be a good business to open up next door to your house. --24.152.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by David [MI]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 10:11 PM
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I believe that in Texas , it's already legal to do target shooting in ones backyard --68.56.xxx.xx




short-term rental restric (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Sep 8, 2023 10:59 PM
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The problem when they brought in rent control in the province of Ontario it was temporary where there was wage and price controls where three years later quietly dropped wage and price controls but rent control remained. Most of problems were there is shortage of rent controls is as result of the hostile legislation towards the private sector rental housing market In the province of Alberta Canada there is no rent control along with government incentives to convert existing structures to rentals. Wonder why rents are lower and conditions are better. Oil along with the province of Alberta is considered the Texas of Canada. No provincial sales tax where fortunately they did not vote for the Social Democratic government again. --74.220.xxx.xxx




short-term rental restric (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 9, 2023 6:11 AM
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Should be nationwide --24.152.xxx.xx



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