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Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Aug 12, 2023 4:46 PM
       Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 12, 2023 5:14 PM
       Invoice requested (by zero [IN]) Aug 12, 2023 5:14 PM
       Invoice requested (by plenty [MO]) Aug 12, 2023 5:29 PM
       Invoice requested (by Scott [IN]) Aug 12, 2023 5:42 PM
       Invoice requested (by Vee [OH]) Aug 12, 2023 5:43 PM
       Invoice requested (by Scott [IN]) Aug 12, 2023 5:47 PM
       Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 12, 2023 5:54 PM
       Invoice requested (by David [MI]) Aug 12, 2023 6:00 PM
       Invoice requested (by David [MI]) Aug 12, 2023 6:01 PM
       Invoice requested (by RB [TN]) Aug 12, 2023 6:49 PM
       Invoice requested (by Ken [NY]) Aug 12, 2023 7:18 PM
       Invoice requested (by MC [PA]) Aug 12, 2023 7:38 PM
       Invoice requested (by NE [PA]) Aug 12, 2023 7:41 PM
       Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Aug 12, 2023 7:42 PM
       Invoice requested (by Robert J [CA]) Aug 12, 2023 8:03 PM
       Invoice requested (by Vee [OH]) Aug 12, 2023 9:19 PM
       Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 12, 2023 9:47 PM
       Invoice requested (by Moshe [CA]) Aug 12, 2023 10:20 PM
       Invoice requested (by Small potatoes [NY]) Aug 13, 2023 12:28 AM
       Invoice requested (by Scott [IN]) Aug 13, 2023 9:47 AM
       Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 13, 2023 10:21 AM
       Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Aug 13, 2023 10:21 AM
       Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 13, 2023 10:27 AM
       Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 13, 2023 10:30 AM
       Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Aug 13, 2023 10:33 AM
       Invoice requested (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Aug 13, 2023 10:37 AM
       Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Aug 13, 2023 10:37 AM
       Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 13, 2023 10:44 AM
       Invoice requested (by Ken [NY]) Aug 13, 2023 11:05 AM
       Invoice requested (by zero [IN]) Aug 13, 2023 12:10 PM
       Invoice requested (by zero [IN]) Aug 13, 2023 12:12 PM
       Invoice requested (by Ed [CA]) Aug 13, 2023 1:05 PM
       Invoice requested (by Vee [OH]) Aug 13, 2023 1:19 PM
       Invoice requested (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Aug 13, 2023 2:10 PM
       Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Aug 13, 2023 3:02 PM
       Invoice requested (by RR78 [VA]) Aug 13, 2023 7:11 PM
       Invoice requested (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Aug 13, 2023 9:33 PM
       Invoice requested (by Jim [OH]) Aug 17, 2023 8:41 AM
       Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Aug 17, 2023 10:05 AM
       Invoice requested (by Jim [OH]) Aug 17, 2023 11:06 AM
       Invoice requested (by don [PA]) Aug 17, 2023 11:38 PM


Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 4:46 PM
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For the first time in 52 years, I have a PITA tenant that wants an invoice every month. Iím close to telling her to put that invoice whe re the su n does not shine.

--70.158.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 5:14 PM
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Maybe she has now got a way to file her rent on her taxes? --73.190.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 5:14 PM
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What invoice would she need? Just a rent receipt? I have had some that wanted receipts each month. Now they get them from the credit union when they make the deposits.

Will be better when I get the PM software decided on and then up and running.

--107.147.xx.xxx




Invoice requested (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 5:29 PM
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Make one. Change the date each month. Snap pic with your phone and text it to them. --172.59.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 5:42 PM
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Add a $50 administrative surcharge for sending the invoice. --107.141.xx.xxx




Invoice requested (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 5:43 PM
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There is good reason to offer a rent receipt, add a line where the tenant signs showing there are no faults with the house or apartment - you may want this in a deposit dispute some time after they have left and are unhappy about the refund amount - your honor there was never a reported problem with the bathtub drain. until they left it plugged. --184.59.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 5:47 PM
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P.S. The $50 is a fee, not rent. You are not violating the lease by charging it. --107.141.xx.xxx




Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 5:54 PM
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Scott, when you purchase a product or service, do you request and/or want a receipt?

What if they said, Sure, that will be a $50 admin fee?

I see nothing wrong with providing a tenant a receipt. They shouldn't be charged for it either. Technically, they have already earned one, just like when we buy something and get a receipt. If I where top get charged extra for a receipt, I would change who I was doing business with real fast. --73.190.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 6:00 PM
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6x6 I've rented at a number of large complexes myself, and the only time I've gotten receipts was when I paid cash or money order. Other times , my receipt was my canceled check.

I also pay my kids daycare weekly with a check, they never provide a receipt

I think the difference is that with a tenant you have a lease that spells out what the rent is, so there's confusion if the check paid the rent in full or not --68.56.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 6:01 PM
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There is no confusion if the check paid rent in full --68.56.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 6:49 PM
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"First time in 52 years".

Must be a challenge !

--24.183.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 7:18 PM
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Big deal,send an invoice a week before the rent is due. some people are just weird about certain things.I invoice everyone who pays me a mortgage,when i started doing it my collections increased.I had tenants a few years ago who wanted a receipt,I invoiced them,they mailed a money order i mailed a receipt back. i tried explaining that the money order had a receipt attached that they saved but they wanted a receipt from me. --74.77.xx.xx




Invoice requested (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 7:38 PM
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Memo on check and check cashed usually served as my receipt. Invoice vs receipt though? --73.230.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 7:41 PM
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Iíve invoiced every tenant, every month since Iíve started. Them getting accustomed to a monthly invoice has gotten me paid MANY times when that last invoice shows up at their new address with a balance due after move out. Combine that with a 10-20% discount for immediate payment and you can escape a lot of problems. --24.152.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 7:42 PM
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There is a difference between an invoice and a receipt. I donít have a problem giving a receipt because I received the funds like I should have. Normally the canceled check is the tenants receipt. Having to remind somebody their rent is due on the first is ridiculous. Like I posted this tenant has become a P i t a. This tenant just joined the 10% annual rent increase club. My other tenants are all members of the 1.5 to 2.0 % annual rent increase club.

--99.23.xxx.x




Invoice requested (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 8:03 PM
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It used to be back in 2002, a tenant may request a copy of their lease and payment once a year at no charge to them. Then the City of LA wanted so bad to make their 25% commission on every section 8 rent, they changed the rules. A tenant may request and a landlord must provide a copy of their lease and payments once each month. So they have the documentation to extend their Section 8 contract more easily.

So my brother is an MBA/CPA with two masters degrees and had his own firm. So I email over copies of my leases and rental payments that his in-house computer down load into files. So when a tenant request their second receipt or copy of the year, my brother charges me $25 per copy of any document.

So I tell my tenants they need to have their own files because after the second request, I'm charging them $25 for each page of any document they request from me. --47.149.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 9:19 PM
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Actually for a home office charging 10 percent in tax write off is common, my former GF did this with her furniture refinishing business at her dad's house - some of us have another address that is used at 100 percent - the unconventional method would warrant the service fee - but you must have a conventional method stated in the lease. With atlanta rythm section rolling in my background.... you need towork on this... --184.59.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 9:47 PM
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Maybe they are wanting it as a helpful reminder? --73.190.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Aug 12, 2023 10:20 PM
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As a matter-of-fact, CA law REQUIRES that a receipt be given for ANY transaction, if the tenant requests it.

--47.139.xx.xxx




Invoice requested (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 12:28 AM
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In NY of a tenant requests it once, you have to always provide a receipt. That is something buildium does well. A letter is generated every time rent is recorded. --172.56.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 9:47 AM
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Jim, I agree with you. Tenant shouldn't expect you to send a reminder(invoice) every month that their rent is due on the 1st. If they must have it, then send them a refrigerator magnet: RENT IS DUE ON THE FIRST OF EVERY MONTH. Maybe have some t-shirts made too. These will be nice Christmas gifts. --107.141.xx.xxx




Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 10:21 AM
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Since this is a request for an invoice and not a receipt, let me rethink this.

I realize that you are not really looking for solutions as you have been doing this for a long time and it seems that you have already decided that you want rid of this tenant. You even have a revenge plot figured out as punishment.

I am wondering a few things as to analyze this a little further.

How long has this tenant been with you?

What makes this tenant now a PITA (besides the invoice request)?

Has this tenant otherwise been a good tenant?

Has this tenant by chance mentioned why she would like to start receiving invoices?

I guess that is my biggest wonder, why does this tenant suddenly want an invoice? What has changed in their situation? Is there something in the LL to Tenant situation that has brought this about? My other biggest wonder is why this tenant is now considered a PITA just for my own education as to what makes this the case. Perhaps I will start a new post about that.

--73.190.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 10:21 AM
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Good idea Scott. Moshe receipt yes-invoice no.

The best suggestion ever was from a lady in Nevada that used to be in California. She gave her tenants a keychain with the keys from a local addiction attorney. That was priceless. --99.23.xxx.x




Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 10:27 AM
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Scott, would the magnet not end up the same as the lease?

After a while a person gets use to seeing a certain thing in a certain place and it then just doesn't get recognized anymore. However, an invoice is a different kind of reminder.

I do agree, however, that there should usually be no need for an invoice for rent as a reminder, since it is the common practice to not receive an invoice for rent. On the other hand, do banks not send invoices for a mortgage? --73.190.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 10:30 AM
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Perhaps the invoice could include a sponsored add for an eviction attorney? --73.190.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 10:33 AM
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6x6. The tenant has been with me 2 painful years, the first year was OK but year 2 they brought in a verified ESA dog that has done $2000 damage before they decided they didnít need an ESA dog. Iím hoping by raising their rent 10% which is $350 They will get the message that they should move. If I DRIVE BY not stop to be sure my gardner is doing a good job they feel this is an invasion of their privacy and send me a text. Their house is on my way home. --99.23.xxx.x




Invoice requested (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 10:37 AM
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Have you asked why they want an invoice? If all they need is a nudge, can your phone be programed to send a text on every first that reads "rent is due"?

I agree it is a weird request. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 10:37 AM
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CORRECT : eviction not addiction --99.23.xxx.x




Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 10:44 AM
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Thank you Jim. That explains a lot. --73.190.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 11:05 AM
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6x6 when i managed my units myself i regularly had tenants say they didnt call me for whatever reason because they lost my number,i had magnets made up with company name,mailing address and phone number,no one ever complained about losing my number again.seems like once a magnet goes on a fridge they never get thrown out --74.77.xx.xx




Invoice requested (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 12:10 PM
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I used to clear tape my business card to the breaker panel. Did so because I had tenants that claimed they didn't know how to contact me, even tho I had been contacted from them to get the place.

Stopped doing it, probably due to laziness. Have considered starting the practice up again, even tho most won't remember it is there anyhow. --107.147.xx.xxx




Invoice requested (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 12:12 PM
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Jim in O C-

Sounds to me like you are going to be getting rid of a tenant.

Hope that you can get it done asap since it is obvious that this tenant is causing you trauma.

Life is too short for all that. --107.147.xx.xxx




Invoice requested (by Ed [CA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 1:05 PM
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Assuming the tenant is ok in other respects, why not give them 12 invoices, one for each month of the next year, all at one time. --108.201.xx.xx




Invoice requested (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 1:19 PM
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From other post--> I would be sending a bill to the tenant for the damages in next rent cycle, the unpaid portion carries over to the next rent bill, it may lead to an eviction when ignored and unpaid. but damage is damage and it is not rent - if this is a verified esa the law says we can not charge rent but same as returning a car to enterprise with a torn up seat or broken window the car rental agreeement will not cover damages. --184.59.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 2:10 PM
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I believe since the 2019 rules in NYS you must supply a receipt no matter form of payment. --64.246.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 3:02 PM
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Thank you Ken. --73.190.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 7:11 PM
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So just do it once a year.

Send them 12 invoices in one mailing. Copy and paste on 12 separate pieces of paper. Just change the date.

There is really no rule as to when you send an invoice. As long as they receive it in a reasonable time before the due date.

--76.104.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2023 9:33 PM
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An online service like ClearNow does this automatically --24.101.xxx.xxx




Invoice requested (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2023 8:41 AM
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Jim in OC, sell. You're way in over your head. --184.57.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2023 10:05 AM
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Jim oh

I looked into that but cap gains and depreciation recapture would cost $258,000 in taxes. This tenant is not worth that. --99.23.xxx.x




Invoice requested (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2023 11:06 AM
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Jim in OC. Do a 1031. Line it up with a rent to own transaction so that you can close within the time period. Just don't rent to own in CA.

Utah or South Dakota are close enough to keep you flush with your investment. --184.57.xxx.xx




Invoice requested (by don [PA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2023 11:38 PM
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6x6, An invoice is not a receipt. An invoice is a bill. The tenant wants the landlord to send them a bill every month for the rent. Then, I guess after they pay it, they would want a receipt. --73.141.xxx.xxx





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