4 year then voted out

Watching what happened in the province of Alberta where the last election the Conservatives were elected with a majority which means the opposition are not required to pass legislation. In this country every time the Socialist Democratic party is elected it is for 4 years then out as the mess up the economy along focus on 0.01 per cent of the extreme leftist groups. Where now the free market rent is going to stay where the province of Alberta never had rent control along with a more balanced landlord and tenant act. Now in major cities the private sector is building rentals of all types where market forces are in place. What the leftist fail to realize as that jurisdictions that do not have rent control along with hostile environment have lower rents, rentals in better condition so tenants are better off all the way round. In the next federal election there should be a progressive Conservative government here as the economy needs to be focused not some dumb ideology which does not work and will never work.

--74.220.xxx.xxx

4 year then voted out (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 7:09 AM
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Amen! Newton's Third Law. For each action there is an equation yet opposite REaction. Rent control and anti property rights always backfires due to the ideologues being unable to see past the tip of their noses. --64.246.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 7:18 AM
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How is Canada doing getting rid of single family zoning laws? Are your nimbys as bad as the ones here? --68.56.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 8:15 AM
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David,are you saying you want a Mcdonalds moving in next door when you had been living in a neighborhood zoned single family? I bought my home in part because it is zoned single family and i dont want it any different,what is wrong with that? --74.77.xx.xx

4 year then voted out (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 9:09 AM
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I live right next to a assisted living facility

You bought the land for your home, not any adjacent land. Whats wrong is you trying to control what other property owners do with their land. --68.56.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 10:16 AM
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and when i bought my property it was zoned single family and it should stay that way,if it was changed my value could be reduced.Would you be ok with the assisted living facility going out of business and a strip joint moving in? --74.77.xx.xx

4 year then voted out (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 10:27 AM
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You want government control over other people's private property. That is no different than rent control or eviction moratorium.

Why would I care about what other people build on their private property ? Strip club, Mcdonalds, A strip club with a mcdonalds inside, a mcdonalds with a strip club inside . It doesn't bother me because I am a strong believer in property rights and freedom of contract. --68.56.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 10:53 AM
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I'm with Ken on this. We separate farm land from residential because if someone puts a pig farm in next door, then my home has now become basically worthless. Like, I'd literally have to move and no one would be interested it buying it except as maybe vacant land for more pigs.

Zoning laws make sense for reasons like that. As long as people knew about it from the start, then it isn't infringing on anyone's property rights.

Removing those zoning laws after someone has purchased -- and therefore allowing anything to go in next door -- is actually MORE like your rent control and eviction moratoriums that you are so against! It is changing what was originally agreed to. That is unacceptable.

So, for the same reasons that you are against something like an eviction moratorium, you should be against removing zoning laws that were in place at the time of purchase. Again, because that is what was AGREED to at the time. Changing the rules later is what you should be against. --67.209.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 11:01 AM
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Just because something bad was implemented a long time ago, doesn't mean we should keep it. There are no other laws we keep in perpetuity or keep applying to the people around when enacted. We had 55mph speed limits when cars were not as safe, should we keep them?

Again, zoning laws are a restriction on OTHER PEOPLES property. If you don't want a pig farm on your property, great don't build one. If you don't want a pig farm on your neighbors property, you should buy your neighbors property.

But it's pretty obvious these examples of pig farms and strip clubs and mcdonalds are just absurd strawmen to distract from not wanting dense residential buildings. --68.56.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 11:04 AM
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if its really about the rules in place, then zoning laws should only affect the property owners at the time they were enacted. Similar to MI's caps on property assessment increases, zoning laws should get voided once property changes hands. --68.56.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 1:32 PM
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This seems to be something coming from the left in an attempt to actually destroy private property rights,David you would be the first screaming if i started a pig farm next door or if there was a hay field next door and i started spreading cow manure when you were trying to have a party on your lawn --74.77.xx.xx

4 year then voted out (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 1:41 PM
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Not only do I live right next door to an assisted living facility, on the other side is a dense, three story townhouse development. I'm still alive and posting!

Perhaps if you looked into the history of zoning instead of just throwing literal and figurative cow manure, you would find that zoning laws didn't exist until the turn of the 20th century. The supreme court upheld them over the dissent of three conservative justices.

My middle school teacher was fond of the saying "My right to throw a punch ends where your nose begins." Your property rights end at your property line. --68.56.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 2:28 PM
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You chose to live between an assisted living facility and a a development,i choose to live out in the country where i can see wildlife and have minimal neighbors,why do you think it is a good idea to tell someone they can put whatever busy,noisy business they want next door to me when it has been zoned single family for years before i showed up? Zoning just makes sense,you move there you know ahead of time what can happen --74.77.xx.xx

4 year then voted out (by David [MI]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 2:44 PM
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Because it is their property. Why do you think it's a good idea to tell other people what they can or can't build on their private property?

If you wanted minimal neighbors you could have bought up adjacent property. The answer is not to force your preferences on other property owners.

--68.56.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 2:48 PM
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I am curious if you feel the same way about, say, noise ordinances? So, if that assisted living facility next to you decides to turn into a Rave and plays music at 140DB until 3am every night of the week -- you're fine with that? Because they should be able to do whatever they want on their property and if you wanted it quieter at 2am then you should have bought the place before they turned it into a rave?

--67.209.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 2:50 PM
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Also, it is interesting how you see that common quote:

"My right to throw a punch ends where your nose begins."

Usually, that quote is used to make people STOP infringing on others rights -- not used to defend rights to do whatever they want. It is incredibly interesting to me that you seem to see it backwards.

I think your Middle-School teacher would have used to it tell you why it is NOT ok to be loud on your property -- or make it stink with a pig farm -- because your right to be loud and sticky ENDS where your neighbor's nose begins.

THAT is how that quote is usually meant. You seem to have twisted it to fit something very different from the normal meaning.

--67.209.xxx.xx

4 year then voted out (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jun 5, 2023 5:04 PM
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The progressive Conservative provincial government where some municipalities are going to encourage more housing which means apartment buildings, condominiums along making easier to demolish buildings. What needs to happen to minimize delays which can last 2 years or more then the project never happens. In the municipality of Mississauga they are going to build a 1600 unit condominium building where the city will not stop. More housing is required where land is used up then the only solution is more density. Public transit becomes more viable as there is public transit right there. In the Greater Toronto Area land for single family houses is no longer here. In order to have economy with good paying jobs more housing has to built as the population is expanding where housing needs to keep pace. Not talking about a garbage dump or incinerator. On the one had the socialist do not want to use farm land on the other hand want to stop intensification. The leftist are really not living with reality. In Calgary Alberta there are government incentives to convert office buildings, schools to rental housing not hostility towards development. the Socialist view point is no private sector rental housing. There is not enough in provincial annual treasury to buy out all the private sector rental housing. Urban areas have limited land available as already built up. Free market system builds quickly along with everyone benefits as more goes into economy. --74.220.xxx.xxx

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