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computers (by 6x6 [TN]) May 24, 2023 8:32 AM
       computers (by Johnny B. [MA]) May 24, 2023 8:45 AM
       computers (by WMH [NC]) May 24, 2023 9:03 AM
       computers (by Deanna [TX]) May 24, 2023 9:35 AM
       computers (by mapleaf18 [NY]) May 24, 2023 9:55 AM
       computers (by MG [NJ]) May 24, 2023 10:22 AM
       computers (by John... [MI]) May 24, 2023 11:49 AM
       computers (by 6x6 [TN]) May 24, 2023 1:39 PM
       computers (by 6x6 [TN]) May 24, 2023 1:42 PM
       computers (by zero [IN]) May 24, 2023 6:32 PM
       computers (by Dodge [PA]) May 24, 2023 7:18 PM
       computers (by 6x6 [TN]) May 24, 2023 7:34 PM
       computers (by DJ [VA]) May 24, 2023 8:08 PM
       computers (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) May 24, 2023 8:31 PM
       computers (by 6x6 [TN]) May 25, 2023 8:18 AM
       computers (by John... [MI]) May 25, 2023 11:08 AM
       computers (by 6x6 [TN]) May 25, 2023 12:23 PM
       computers (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) May 25, 2023 11:04 PM
       computers (by zero [IN]) May 26, 2023 8:13 AM
       computers (by John... [MI]) May 26, 2023 11:10 AM
       computers (by Vee [OH]) May 26, 2023 6:27 PM
       computers (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) May 27, 2023 5:39 AM
       computers (by Sandy [CO]) May 30, 2023 1:12 AM
       computers (by CDM [CA]) Jun 2, 2023 12:04 PM

computers (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 8:32 AM

I am getting tired of all these pop-ups on windows 10 and it seems that every time there are updates that it messes things up.

Is Apple a better computer?

I am not tech savvy and am wondering which computer is better for LLing business?

Does Apple have all these pop-ups in their operating system?

Is Apple more user friendly?

If you like Apple better, why?

Thank you for your time

computers (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 8:45 AM

If you have a good virus protection like Norton it will block pop ups as well.

computers (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 9:03 AM

I use Ad-aware. Blocks everything. I don't even realize there are pop-ups unless I use someone else's computer.

computers (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 9:35 AM

A vote for using Chrome, but using the extensions like AdBlock to block pop-ups.

I have one monitor and two desktop towers right now. I have a snazzy little button that lets me toggle between whichever one is displaying on the monitor.

One of them is on Vista (2007-2017), because I have it the way I like it. However, with Vista, it's so old that I can't have the current version of anything, and it got to the point where it was interfering with my browsing history. I tend to use that one for things that are stand-alone things-- image editing, office documents, website work, and old 90's Sid Meiers games. :P

The other one is on Windows 10 (2015-2025). I had tried getting my old copies of Office and Photoshop installed on it, and it worked-- but after the first update, they stopped working. Which makes this one mostly an internet-browsing computer, rather than a productivity machine. But in the meantime, so many of the programs I already own have now migrated to a subscription basis-- so I'm more willing to be clunky than to pay $20/month for a Photoshop subscription (more, if I want Lightroom), or paying $70-$100/year for Microsoft 365 or $150 for the 2021 version of Office as a standalone.

It still wants me to upgrade to Windows 11 (2021-current), and will restart itself periodically to encourage me to do so, but I keep putting it off because I get cranky when I have to go in and fix things after an update... and not all the problems created are fixable. However, thanks to my adblockers, pop-ups are never one of my problems.

If you're already in the Apple ecosystem (iPad, iPhone, iTunes, MacBook, AppleTV, Apple Watch, etc), then a MacBook would probably make sense. But if you're not, then I would focus on using the tools you have on your current OS, before dropping four figures on a new system.

computers (by mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 9:55 AM

I turn off telemetrics as much as possible as well in W10.

computers (by MG [NJ]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 10:22 AM

It is your browser, not your computer. If you use chrome and put adblock and adblock plus then you shouldn't have popups

computers (by John... [MI]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 11:49 AM

First, the main question: What popups exactly? What do they say? Windows itself does not normally give you "popups" except when you need to install a major update -- in which case, you should listen to the pop-up. But, very likely, you're getting popups from something else. Describe the popup and we can see.

Second, as for the comment above about "a good virus protection like Norton". I want you to know that, in the IT world, Norton is one of the most hated anti-virus products. It's garbage. And I say this as a person who has been in IT for 30+ years. Windows Defender is built into Windows. Use it.

Third, if you mean pop-ups when using your web browser, then that is very different from them from Windows itself. So, we need to figure out if that is what you really mean. You very likely are getting notices from a site that you have accidentally marked as being allowed to send you notifications -- and they then "pop up" in your Windows notifications in the bottom right.

computers (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 1:39 PM

Thank you everyone for the replies.

John, I thought that it was windows 10 that was the biggest problem. It keeps showing up things in the bottom right as you mentioned. Some is when emails come in. I am getting a lot of junk emails as well. I usually try to be cautious as to what I am giving permission, but I have signed up for notifications of a few things that then end up sending all kinds of junk mail. I go to an old version of yahoo mail so that I can block the senders but it doesn't seem to do much good.

computers (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 1:42 PM

John, what is the best way to block pop-ups on the web?

Do you like MacOS?

computers (by zero [IN]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 6:32 PM

Fort me even worse than Norton is MacAfee. I can't get it removed from my system no matter what.

John was an odd duck but that's over now.

computers (by Dodge [PA]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 7:18 PM

IIRC, turning off windows notifications also cut down on the annoying distractions.

computers (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 7:34 PM

Thank you Dodge. I think I got it. I will see.

computers (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 8:08 PM

I have an Apple. I love it. It is intuitive, user-friendly, has built-in security/blockers.

It also is more expensive, have to decide what is most important to you.

I should also say, expensive to purchase, but no ongoing, yearly fees for Norton (or another), and durable - lasts a Long time.

computers (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: May 24, 2023 8:31 PM

On the used market it is possible to buy on internet sites a Imac for a reasonable price. I switched out a windows 10 and 11 to Linux Zorin 16.2 operating system as windows made a perfectly good computer obsolete by adding more and more software where the computer slowed down then told that adding windows 11 the computer is obsolete. Buying a new computer every three years is not for me. Using duckduckgo search engine which information is out of hands of advertisers. On and off get emails from Microsoft that Microsoft claims third party operating systems. Where Imac and Linux Zorin 16.2 is valid and free with updates where computer does not become obsolete. If computer has DVD CD then it is possible to download Zorin 16.2 OS then burn into disk then can install Zorin for free along will use Thunderbird for email. View some videos if interested on downloading Zorin 16.2 OS on computer where windows is history. Without all the spyware and unneeded software the computer runs faster.

computers (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: May 25, 2023 8:18 AM

DJ, by lasting a long time, are you referring to the computer durability or that it doesn't go "out of date" because of updates and such?

Also, what do you mean by it is intuitive?

How would you describe it as being more user friendly?

computers (by John... [MI]) Posted on: May 25, 2023 11:08 AM

To block ads on the web, I would recommend Firefox with the "uBlock Origin" plugin. (I actually use Chrome, but it looks like Google is about to make it very difficult to use good ad blockers in Chrome, so I can't recommended it any more and I will likely switch to Firefox soon.)

Macs are fine. I grew up on Apple, but moved to Windows when I needed to do real business work. These days, so much is online that the PC doesn't matter as much for many people.

That being said, I don't think that Macs are necessarily more intuitive than Windows for what most people do. I don't think it is worth shelling out more cash for a Mac these days.

computers (by 6x6 [TN]) Posted on: May 25, 2023 12:23 PM

Thank you John

computers (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: May 25, 2023 11:04 PM

I prefer Imac where would only buy used as Imac computers last a long time. Since on the windows computers when Zorin 16.2 operating was installed found to be much then microsoft. I do not care that microsoft claims a third party operating system. Today when using Zorin and Imac I receive from microsoft where just delete.

computers (by zero [IN]) Posted on: May 26, 2023 8:13 AM

John, I had not heard that about Chrome and new ad blockers. That stinks as I finally made the switch from Firefox to Chrome and liked it. FF seemed to slow my system down. Not sure if it actually did, but it sure seemed like it.

computers (by John... [MI]) Posted on: May 26, 2023 11:10 AM

We're still waiting to see if they (Google) stick to what they are saying. They may have a mass exodus on their hands if they don't change their current plans. But, we'll have to see. So far, I'm still using Chrome until I can't use uBlock Origin any more... Then I'll go to Firefox.

Note that pretty much EVERYTHING else (that is popular at all) is Chrome-based. Edge, Opera, Brave, Vivaldi - they are all basically Chrome engine underneath. Now, they MAY allow extensions that Chrome itself does not -- so they might still be viable options. Again, waiting to see. :)

computers (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 26, 2023 6:27 PM

Pop up stuff can be good but it is annoying, When I do a fresh win10 install I choose -wired connection in the internet area - this slows down some of th microstuff bulloney snd makes you choos what to accept, rather than allow any bumbleware easdy access, For a long time I renamed everything microsoft -nicrosoft but after a month the washington state virus found a way to reeset this - ubunto became friendly to me and I knew how to write print driver code so old reliable hardware could remain plugged in at my office. Firefox browser is set to dump all th cache makinging the drive get lighter every new start.

computers (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: May 27, 2023 5:39 AM

People upgrade macs where they sell a older Imac as like everything else there is depreciation. For the previous Windows computers Zorin 16.2 ubuntu system where installed a Ubuntu operating system then all spyware with windows is gone.. Computers run faster along there is free updates Another benefit is Kodi where can do streaming. Mainly use Imac where on and off use Zorin 16.2 Ubuntu OS. If a computers hardware is still working along it can last twenty years then why replace. No computer store will sell a computer with Linux Ubuntu operating system as three replace cycle is not there. This forces to buy a more elaborate computer which do not need. It is easy to buy things online from a website. I found very little difference between a Iphone 11 and iphone 13. With Imac can use computer for text. I buy a lot of things used where some things are better to buy new. Using with all computers and iphone duckduckgo search engine where avoid microsoft where often emails where microsoft is aware by now that using Imac and Linux Ubuntu system. I absolutely not interested in Microsoft getting a profile on me where they sell information to advertisers. I paid around $100 to $150 dollars for a 27 desktop Imac computer used.

computers (by Sandy [CO]) Posted on: May 30, 2023 1:12 AM

6X6, the macs are great machines. They can last much longer than a windows based system. A friend has one bought it used a couple years old, and it's now 10 years later still going strong. The big plus is the virus protection is better than windows in my personal experience.

I would recommend you try the iPad which is less expensive and go from there. (I do 95% of my business on an iPad)

A middle of the road MacBook Pro will cost $2400 with applecare.

computers (by CDM [CA]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2023 12:04 PM

Second the recommendation to use Ublock Origin to block ads and popups on browsers. I use it on Firefox and Microsoft Edge. You can turn it off on any given page if you need to let the page give you a popup. Sometimes you need popups to fill out web forms.

I use Windows 10 and have resisted "upgrading" to Windows 11 so far, without any problems.

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