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sewer tap block (by myob [GA]) Mar 24, 2023 6:33 AM
       sewer tap block (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 24, 2023 7:30 AM
       sewer tap block (by Vee [OH]) Mar 24, 2023 12:41 PM
       sewer tap block (by don [PA]) Mar 24, 2023 12:44 PM
       sewer tap block (by myob [GA]) Mar 24, 2023 2:25 PM
       sewer tap block (by don [PA]) Mar 25, 2023 3:23 AM
       sewer tap block (by don [PA]) Mar 25, 2023 3:28 AM
       sewer tap block (by myob [GA]) Mar 25, 2023 6:45 AM
       sewer tap block (by MJ [PA]) Mar 25, 2023 1:14 PM
       sewer tap block (by Small potatoes [NY]) Mar 25, 2023 2:13 PM
       sewer tap block (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 25, 2023 8:57 PM
       sewer tap block (by myob [GA]) Mar 26, 2023 7:33 AM
       sewer tap block (by zero [IN]) Mar 26, 2023 7:38 PM
       sewer tap block (by myob [GA]) Mar 27, 2023 6:46 AM
       sewer tap block (by zero [IN]) Mar 28, 2023 9:06 AM
       sewer tap block (by PG [SC]) Mar 28, 2023 10:19 AM

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sewer tap block (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2023 6:33 AM
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Got bad news 2 days ago. Sent camera down A slow sewer line and saw some roots. Called the sewer county people to locate the tap-- that's where your 4 inch line connects to their 6 inch line. 8 ft deep and in the middle of a forest of pine trees. Had to take down privacy fence to even get excavator into the site. Took over an hour to get the digger in.

Took 2 hrs to get down 10 ft (not 8) and make the hole safe for my guys to work. We found the tap was cracked and roots filled the 4 inch line and the city 6 inch line for over 4 ft. The tap had circular cracks and longitudinal. Cut the city pipe back and cut about 6 ft of our pipe out and started the rebuild of connections. Called the sewer guys to verify the city line failed so we can get some $ rebate for our expense working on THEIR line failure. This was one of the most challenging jobs we've ever done. Hole closed out by 3pm. My crew did their usual outstanding job. Couldn't be happier with their work.

Materials: 2- 10ft pieces of 4" pvc, 2-90 degree elbows, 2-22.5 degree elbows, 2 couplings, 1 fernco coupling and rain and shine joint glue. Water company supplied 2 pipe donuts. We used both. --108.239.xx.xx




sewer tap block (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2023 7:30 AM
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The cost of these materials have shot up over the past six or eight months in a major way. Up 8 fold!!!!

a six inch site T runs over $310 from a plumbing supply center. A four site T is is at $57 --24.101.xxx.xxx




sewer tap block (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2023 12:41 PM
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Surprised you still had 4 inch over 40 feet from house, I do septic and occasional sewer, they grow from 4 at the foundation into 6 then 8 at street or tank. --76.190.xxx.xxx




sewer tap block (by don [PA]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2023 12:44 PM
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In Philly we cannot use PVC underground (more of a union thing than anything else) and ferncos are also a no-no. --73.141.xxx.xxx




sewer tap block (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 24, 2023 2:25 PM
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Vee here we use 4inch all the way to the tap. Transition from 4 to 6 inch (the tap) and use the special donuts.

don PA why not pvc? what you use cast with lead? Not that I ask permission from anyone-- cause I don't.... --108.239.xx.xx




sewer tap block (by don [PA]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2023 3:23 AM
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Code does not allow PVC underground, might just be Philly. It is due to the political strength of the labor union. PVC is too easy to install, although of course they come up with other excuses. Yep, cast with lead underground.

As far as ferncos, I have used one underground on a 4" lateral and it failed. Not supposed to use them, supposedly ground shifting causes failure. --73.141.xxx.xxx




sewer tap block (by don [PA]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2023 3:28 AM
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MYOB--To give you an idea of what we deal with in Philly, about 15 years ago Comcast (City's biggest company) was building an office tower. They wanted it to get the highest environmental certification, which required waterless urinals. The unions held it up because they objected to the waterless urinals (no need to run plumbing to them means less manhours.) Comcast backed down and it was resolved by installing the waterless urinals---but also running pipes to each and every one of them. The logic was supposedly that if the waterless ones did not work out they would have the plumbing to install regular flushing ones. --73.141.xxx.xxx




sewer tap block (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2023 6:45 AM
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don PA if you thought this would shock me-- nope i was born in NY in Brooklyn the home of the -- well you know who with the crooked nose.

Growing up at about 7 or 8 the delivery truckers were on strike-- two brothers in our area decided they were going to go against the union and make delivery's anyway. The found them in a trash truck-- the kind that the back of the truck door swings down and pushes the trash forward. Half in and half out of that mechanism. --108.239.xx.xx




sewer tap block (by MJ [PA]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2023 1:14 PM
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You can use ferncos in PA but they have to be shielded with stainless steel. Health department permit is required for the work and they have to approve before you can backfill. I have done many such jobs. --73.174.xxx.x




sewer tap block (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2023 2:13 PM
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I'm surprised you were allowed to work on the city Side Of The Line, by me they would have come and done the work --172.59.xxx.xxx




sewer tap block (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 25, 2023 8:57 PM
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For all of you to know there are new modern ways to solve problem sewer lines, water lines, gas lines and power lines under ground, under cement or under a slab.

I just spent over $10,000 on some new attachments for my current equipment.

This year along I managed to repair an under slab water line running 156 feet with several leaks. I also managed to repair a sewer line under the street that the City and their henchmen wanted an arm and leg to repair. Also a pool drain with a leak too. All with very little digging. --47.147.xxx.xxx




sewer tap block (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2023 7:33 AM
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Robert there are many modern ways and almost all are super expensive to reline.

When a sewer line fails there are all kinds of gadgets. Most slab fails are not due to roots. The root intrusion problem is mostly what we have in our area due to heavy pine tree infestation. I am not a licensed contractor!!!!!! I am a LICENSED airline mechanic with 45 yrs experience on rentals and working on them-- Hands on work as a hydraulic mechanic specialist for 23 of those years (working hyd lines and systems on commercial airplanes).

The point I like to make on my how to fix things posting is; sometime ya gotta put the shovel into the dirt. This last sewer line is classic. 40ft from the clean out plug there were 4 or 5 twists and turns for the line to connect to the sewer main. 2 -- 22.5 degree 4 inch pvc connection and 2 - 45 degree along with one coupling. Think in your mind running a sewer cable down that line and all those angles. Now think how do I clear an obstruction 4 ft long before i run this reline in? If you've run cable you know what i mean. Now add 4 inch diameter and 4 feet of root jammed in that pipe-- so tight the bell housing cracked. When the root end was exposed we couldn't even pull it out of the pipe it was so impacted. We had to cut the main to get the roots out. Keep in mind we tried cutting these roots out first--- The thought process for most people is just cut the roots. Think on this. The roots were 4 ft into the line. So even if you start cutting roots where can they go-- #2 how long does it take to cut 4ft of roots. not gonna happen.

So many say we have this new system-- maybe but it's not working in most heavy root problems.

We have been very lucky working with the sewer company- we call them as soon as the line is exposed. When roots are shown in their pipe they will reimburse us our costs. 9 out of 10 got the check.

The under slab problems. We've done those also. We hire a locator (sound man) to locate (100.00). cut slab and then we repair.

Here in lies why we love carpet. You can roll carpet back. find your leak-- break up slab -- make your repair. This is what we do when where done with the fix. We fill the hole with sand. Keeping in mind that most slab leaks are along a wall and not in the middle of a room. Pack the hole with sand-- then go to H-depot and grab a metal plate 1/8 and put on the sand. roll pad and carpet back.

--108.239.xx.xx




sewer tap block (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Mar 26, 2023 7:38 PM
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myob,

That's an interesting idea about the sand and metal plate. Had not considered it.

I hope that you can keep dishing out the tidbits of info. I just fear that you are headed to a karate showdown.

Ha ha --107.147.xx.xxx




sewer tap block (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 27, 2023 6:46 AM
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What's a karate show down?

Yeah I never fill the hole in a slab back in with concrete. Pack with sand- cover with steel plate. --108.239.xx.xx




sewer tap block (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2023 9:06 AM
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Sorry, was making a statement about a certain poster who has outlandish fake stories and misguides na´ve people. He likes to throw threats of violence into his conversations as well.

I will hunker back into my little safe spot now.

I do like the sand and plate idea. --107.147.xx.xxx




sewer tap block (by PG [SC]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2023 10:19 AM
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MYOB - This is fact filled post - under slab repairs with the sand and metal plate - very good

--172.242.xx.xx



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