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Toe kick (by Busy [WI]) Mar 15, 2023 6:46 AM
       Toe kick (by plenty [MO]) Mar 15, 2023 8:02 AM
       Toe kick (by DJ [VA]) Mar 15, 2023 8:39 AM
       Toe kick (by myob [GA]) Mar 15, 2023 10:16 AM
       Toe kick (by Gene [OH]) Mar 15, 2023 10:50 AM
       Toe kick (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Mar 15, 2023 10:54 AM
       Toe kick (by Ed [CA]) Mar 15, 2023 1:15 PM
       Toe kick (by Allym [NJ]) Mar 15, 2023 2:28 PM
       Toe kick (by small potatoes [NY]) Mar 15, 2023 3:59 PM
       Toe kick (by zero [IN]) Mar 15, 2023 6:36 PM
       Toe kick (by Busy [WI]) Mar 15, 2023 7:08 PM
       Toe kick (by Busy [WI]) Mar 15, 2023 7:15 PM
       Toe kick (by Don [PA]) Mar 18, 2023 7:13 PM

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Toe kick (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 6:46 AM

Years ago, when we lived in Nebraska, I noticed that flooring installers would wrap the vinyl flooring up under the cabinets, creating a vinyl toe-kick. Now, this did leave a goofy little triangle at the end of a cabinet run, where it looked like a perfect little mouse hole.

I didn't care for the look, but, I can certainly see the appeal with Class C properties. I'm thinking I could cut a scrap piece to make a cover for that little corner. But, what to glue / fasten with, as the vinyl will be loose laid?

Anybody do this toe-kick? And, now, with loose laid flooring, has that changed things? And, I'm still not certain I'm going with sheet vinyl, AllyM's use of peal and stick does have a certain appeal ( oh, that's punny!)

Let's discuss kitchen and bathroom flooring, please.

Toe kick (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 8:02 AM

I'd use a piece of sticky duct tape on the back side or just fill that space with colored caulk.

Toe kick (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 8:39 AM

I think that hole at the corner would be a problem. It would let water & dirt in.

Rather than wrap it up in one piece from the floor, the sheet vinyl could be cut at the base of the cabinet, then another straight piece stuck flat on the toe kick. Use the same adhesive or contact cement. Caulk the seams. That would eliminate the hole and still make it washable.

Or place a piece of vinyl bent around the corner, under the hole, and caulk well.

I did a similar thing in a mobile home once, but formica instead of regular toe kick. It was a piece of the same formica used for the countertop & backsplash.

Toe kick (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 10:16 AM

start your climb into B property's. Put in the toe kick plate from h-depot or lowes (they have a special price for it) --- charge more rent! --108.239.xx.xx

Toe kick (by Gene [OH]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 10:50 AM

Busy, I have a upper class B property that needed new flooring in the kitchen. I put in a different type of laminate. It was 1 ft x 2 ft self stick laminate. The installer had to put down some sort of leveler material to level the old linoleum but also to make sure the laminate would stick. The floor is gorgeous and very durable. It has been in about a year with no issues. I'm going to try to use the same type of laminate in most of my kitchens and bathrooms in the future and possibly even in other rooms.

Toe kick (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 10:54 AM

They sell the adhesive for the toe kick in the same location where they sell the toe kick/cove base. It comes in a tube

Toe kick (by Ed [CA]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 1:15 PM

If you've never used gorilla glue max strength clear, try it sometime. It'll become your new best friend for all kinds of fixes. It's kinda like shoe-goo, but a lot stronger. --108.201.xx.xx

Toe kick (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 2:28 PM

Peel and stick will crack if you try to bend it in a curve. I am toe kick challenged right now. Have to keep a little pup from peeing on the cabinets so I blocked that off. That is so bad for the back and hip muscles, lemme tell you.

Toe kick (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 3:59 PM

The pm I had used the vinyl cove base everywhere, awful stuff in my opinion. It all eventually bulges or comes loose and collects grime. You can get trim pieces in standard cabinet finishes to match the cabinets and rip them down to toe kick height if needed. I will also rip luan or thin ply and paint it a dark color, or match the color of lower cabinets. At the corner a dab of caulk and paint over does the trick. adhesive caulk and/ or finish nails will keep it in place. --67.240.xx.xx

Toe kick (by zero [IN]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 6:36 PM

I use luan as well. Rip it in eight foot lengths at four inches or so tall. Paint it either black or the cabinet color, semi gloss.

If the cabinets are sitting on the flooring them you just silicone the bottom. If the cabinets are already down and the flooring butts to them then get some quarter round down there after the silicone. Makes it easier when you replace the flooring in the future.

I stopped using loose lay a long while back. I would get the one tenant that wanted to clean behind the fridge and the loose lay was toast.

Also have had loose lay balloon up when the furnace kicked on. That is always a fun thing to see.

Toe kick (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 7:08 PM

So it sounds like curving the sheet vinyl isn't done, at least not by y'all. I'll admit, only place I ever saw it was Nebraska, and that was many years ago. Well, the veterinarian's office does something similar, and they ran it up to small dog pee height, lol!

Reason I'm asking is my tenants have all seemed to use some sort of long-handled mop for washing, and most don't bend down to get the toe-kick clean. (I've never used those, though when we remodeled our OWN kitchen ten years ago, my husband bought one, and he has always cleaned our kitchen and bathroom floors. I do our toe-kicks, they're pretty cherry wood that matches our cabinets. But, I clean up as I cook, too.) In my rentals, I've painted all of my toe-kicks same as my cabinets, but, unfortunately, I've used water-based paint, which doesn't scrub as well as vinyl. In the past, I have sometimes just cut a new piece of trim, rather than scrubbing and scraping. But, price of lumber, that doesn't sound so cheap anymore.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of that rolled up cove molding, though I have used it in the past. True, it does clean up nicely, so maybe that is still my best bet. Trying to put in what is easy to clean, cheap to repair. Hence thinking of peal and stick, maybe with the vinyl cove molding, or as Small 'tater does. Glad to see I'm not the only one who will rip trim pieces out of non-traditional lumber. The idea of using a dark color paint that coordinates rather than matches exactly to the light colored cabinets is a good idea.

I could try to upgrade my houses, but, my neighborhoods are solid C properties. And, I'll admit, I kinda like my neighborhoods ( though a few less bullet holes would be nice.)

Toe kick (by Busy [WI]) Posted on: Mar 15, 2023 7:15 PM

AllyM, we're dealing with doggy puddles now too. Ours is an sweet, old girl, with bladder cancer. She feels like she needs to go, even if bladder isn't real full. On babysitting days, even the little one year old grandson knows to run to the door and let her out if he sees her heading for the door. She's on good pain meds, still eats like a beagle, still enjoys a good walk, a good snoot in the backyard, but, we're watching closely.

Love those fur-babies! Good luck with your pupper!

Toe kick (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Mar 18, 2023 7:13 PM

Busy---The technique that you describe was used in the 1970's in my parents' house here in SW Philly. Heavy sheet vinyl wrapped right up the toekick. No place for crumbs to catch in, and mop water can't get into the edges to weaken the glue.

BTW, carpet installers used to do the same thing---right up and over the baseboard.

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