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Fair Housing (by Alex [GA]) Feb 5, 2023 7:05 PM
       Fair Housing (by plenty [MO]) Feb 5, 2023 7:16 PM
       Fair Housing (by Ken [NY]) Feb 5, 2023 7:33 PM
       Fair Housing (by Vee [OH]) Feb 5, 2023 8:40 PM
       Fair Housing (by Alex [GA]) Feb 5, 2023 8:58 PM
       Fair Housing (by Ken [NY]) Feb 5, 2023 10:24 PM
       Fair Housing (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Feb 6, 2023 8:56 AM
       Fair Housing (by S i d [MO]) Feb 6, 2023 9:14 AM
       Fair Housing (by Alex [GA]) Feb 6, 2023 11:29 AM
       Fair Housing (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 7, 2023 2:20 AM
       Fair Housing (by Alex [GA]) Feb 7, 2023 8:48 AM
       Fair Housing (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 8, 2023 12:45 PM
       Fair Housing (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Feb 8, 2023 12:46 PM
       Fair Housing (by JJ [NC]) Feb 9, 2023 10:38 PM
       Fair Housing (by Don [PA]) Feb 27, 2023 1:54 PM
       Fair Housing (by Don [PA]) Feb 27, 2023 1:57 PM
       Fair Housing (by Don [PA]) Feb 27, 2023 2:02 PM


Fair Housing (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2023 7:05 PM
Message:

Should I provide contact details of my attorney to the investigator?

I hired an Attorney who is local and has 3 decades worth of experience dealing ONLY with Fair Housing.

The investigator is emailing me on a daily basis asking me like a pest. So I finally told the Investigator that I am taking the advise from a legal counsel and an attorney will be present when we are on call for interview.

The investigator is asking me the name and contact details of Attorney. I am having representation and will pay to attorney on an hourly basis. I have provided all the facts, the background information, the events to my attorney.

I also asked Investigator to send me the questions that will be asked during the interview. I have prepared those answers which my attorney has reviewed. Some of those questions are illegal (as per Attorney). The attorney has prepared the legitimate answers based on the information I have provided. When we get on the call, the attorney will be the one who will be doing all the talking.

I do not want Investigator to directly go to the attorney. I would like to know the questions the Investigator asks, prepare my answers, send to my attorney and provide answers that my attorney sends me. This way,

1. I know all the questions that the Investigator asks.

2. I get a chance to prepare and provide relevant information to my attorney.

3. I can control and keep track of hours the attorney spends. If I simply provide the attorney's address, the investigator may get the attorney on the call and will take lot of attorney's time. If that happens, I will end up spending thousands of dollars, just in fees.

Please let me know, should I provide contact details of my attorney to the investigator?

--99.98.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2023 7:16 PM
Message:

Sorry you have to go thru this..it would seem to me that your attorney should have the only contact with FH. Shouldn't the attorney contact them, I'd just inform the attorney that they are requesting this information and let the attorney answer. I'd sit quietly on my hands with duct tape on my mouth, like a cat in the sunshine. --172.56.xx.xxx




Fair Housing (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2023 7:33 PM
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You should not talk to investigator at all,not even to tell them to talk to your attorney.The attorney has the experience so let him handle it 100%,you are actually making this harder for your attorney,he knows when to call them,what to say and what not to say.You are too invested in what the investigator thinks of you --74.77.xx.xx




Fair Housing (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2023 8:40 PM
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My understanding is once an atty is on record this closes off your dialogue to the court, this adds weeks to the case while they atty go back and forth - the dollar signs go round and round, while all you wanted to say is the facts in 3 or 4 words. --76.190.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2023 8:58 PM
Message:

Thank you all.

That is what I am dreading. The Investigator and Attorney will go back and forth like a ping pong while I watch my $ go up.

I will ask Attorney to respond to the Investigator's email. --99.98.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Feb 5, 2023 10:24 PM
Message:

It is a cost of doing business and cheaper than a fine.Raise rents to make up for it --74.77.xx.xx




Fair Housing (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2023 8:56 AM
Message:

There is a specific form - the name of it I can't recall....but it is filed into the court that says, that the attorney is representing you and stop any further direct contact with you without going through the attorney.

It translates into the message, you are not low lying fruit to the non-profit that is processing the fair housing complaint.

There are enough miss-doings in the world of Fair Housing that the agency may elect to drop the complaint after a very short investigation period.

From what I recall, you said this was a case of he said/she said.

--24.101.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2023 9:14 AM
Message:

Remember the old adage, "Anything you say can and will be used against you..."

I reiterate my advice from the last post: stop communicating with this investigator. Anything you say... ANYTHING... even "stop contacting me or my attorney" can and will be used against you.

Just go silent. Think like a submarine captain trying to avoid sonar. Stop all engines. No one sneeze. No one even fart.

The investigator can find you and drag you into court. Don't make it easy. You play as dumb as your attorney advises you at the time. If "Your Honor, I wasn't seeing the investigator's mail/email messages to me" is what your attorney suggests, then that's what you say. If "Your Honor, I felt like I had Covid during that time and was not in any condition to respond" is what your attorney suggests, then that's what you say.

Covid is asymptomatic in 33% of the population, so it very well could be true as far as you know....

Not. Another. Solitary. Word. to this investigator. Not even, "See ya in court." The investigator's job is to ruin you. Your job is to make that impossible. If and when a judge compels you to speak, then you will speak and you will say only the words your attorney tells you to say.

Good luck and stay strong! --184.4.xx.xx




Fair Housing (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Feb 6, 2023 11:29 AM
Message:

Thanks to Ken, Ray-N-Pa and Sid.

I am not going to respond to this investigator that has been a pest and sending me emails every single day.

I will let my attorney respond. It is "he said and she said case". I have all documented proof that I will provide to my attorney. Plus, there are occasions where the ex-tenant lied and mislead the Eviction Court as well as (un)Fair Housing. I have documented proof of that as well.

--99.98.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2023 2:20 AM
Message:

Alex,

Tough love? Back off.

I realize this has you agitated but take a breath and quit trying to fix this yourself. You are making this worse.

We've ALL been thru this. You will get thru this IF you let the atty work.

You remind me of a guy getting a filling and directing the dentist while he is drilling.

If you are too intrusive the atty might drop you as a client.

I did not see you type anything about court so it could just be a clerk filling out a form to get your complainant off his back. MANY are settled with a simple phone call BY YOUR ATTY NOT YOU!!!

Pay the atty and keep your mouth shut.

Forget keeping track of the hours and be relieved you found experienced help.

Best if you are not present - then they cannot trap you or get you to say something wrong. If you are NOT on the call/interview the atty will answer for you. Sometimes if they ask a question and you are not there the atty can legitimately say "I don't know" and the investigator drops the question.

HE knows how to speak to them and what they want to hear.

YOU don't.

Let the man do his job for you.

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2023 8:48 AM
Message:

BRAD 20000,

Yes, the case is with an Investigator, in initial stages and is not with court. The ex-tenant filed a complaint and the Investigator sent me a set of questions.

The Investigator has only one sided story, that is, from my former tenant. But my attorney will respond to my side of story. I have provided the relevant information, documentation and proof to my attorney.

--99.98.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 8, 2023 12:45 PM
Message:

Alex,

I'll bet you a milkshake that list of questions is a generic form they send to everyone on every complaint.

Your atty will keep the instigator "on track" and not let him/her drag in other issues or traps.

I watched my atty do this with a judge who wanted extraneous information like how long have I had the home, purchase price.... My atty politely said said "We're here to talk about unpaid rent."

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Feb 8, 2023 12:46 PM
Message:

I think spell correct made a Freudian slip!

It changed INVESTIGATOR to INSTIGATOR. So true!

BRAD --73.103.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by JJ [NC]) Posted on: Feb 9, 2023 10:38 PM
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My one and only fair housing complaint in 30 years ended up costing me over $5000 for them to find there was no basis for the claim. You lose even when you win. --66.26.xxx.xx




Fair Housing (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2023 1:54 PM
Message:

Ray, the document you describe is an Entry of Appearance.

Alex, do what Sid said. Trying to save billable hours, you are undermining your attorney. You are like a defendant under interrogation by police who tells his attorney, ok, you can leave for now, I can handle these questions. --73.194.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2023 1:57 PM
Message:

Hj, most human relation discrimination complaints in philly settle fo around $5k, because that is what the defendant would have to pay an attorney to fight it. The Human Relation Commission is supposed to be a fair judge, but all of the cases highlighted on their website are ones where the accuser won or got a settlement. --73.194.xxx.xxx




Fair Housing (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Feb 27, 2023 2:02 PM
Message:

Vee- " all you wanted to say was the facts in three or four words"

What I hear is " all you wanted to do was make a statement which could bury you"

--73.194.xxx.xxx





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