Another Bad Realtor (by Anonymous [MA]) Jan 27, 2023 8:58 AM|
Another Bad Realtor (by WMH [NC]) Jan 27, 2023 9:04 AM
Another Bad Realtor (by tryan [MA]) Jan 27, 2023 9:18 AM
Another Bad Realtor (by WMH [NC]) Jan 27, 2023 10:16 AM
Another Bad Realtor (by Still Learning [NH]) Jan 27, 2023 10:21 AM
Another Bad Realtor (by S i d [MO]) Jan 27, 2023 10:30 AM
Another Bad Realtor (by Allym [NJ]) Jan 27, 2023 10:43 AM
Another Bad Realtor (by Ken [NY]) Jan 27, 2023 11:20 AM
Another Bad Realtor (by tryan [MA]) Jan 27, 2023 1:29 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by Ken [NY]) Jan 27, 2023 1:33 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by plenty [MO]) Jan 27, 2023 1:41 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by Vee [OH]) Jan 27, 2023 2:01 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by Anonymous [MA]) Jan 27, 2023 2:49 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by tryan [MA]) Jan 27, 2023 4:03 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by MikeA [TX]) Jan 27, 2023 4:56 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by Bonanza [NC]) Jan 27, 2023 7:37 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by Mike45 [NV]) Jan 27, 2023 8:16 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by GKARL [PA]) Jan 27, 2023 9:52 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by don [PA]) Jan 27, 2023 11:31 PM
Another Bad Realtor (by RB [TN]) Jan 28, 2023 8:45 AM
Another Bad Realtor (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Jan 28, 2023 11:54 AM
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Another Bad Realtor (by Anonymous [MA]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 8:58 AM
Keeping this one Anonymous because Iím going to stir up some dust in my local realtor world here. Currently have a property for sale. A buyerís agent agent from a local RE agency called to get the lock box code to show the home to a client. Totally normal stuff. Later, one of our guys had to pick something up at the house and was surprised to find the potential buyer there alone. Security cameras confirmed that he had let himself in and had been there for almost two hours alone. Agent was never there and obviously gave his client the lock box code. When confronted, agent lied and said he was there but had to leave. Security cameras are disclosed and are open and obvious in daylight. This was at night so Iím assuming they didnít see them or agent would not have lied. Is this ever OK for an agent to give a potential buyer a lockbox code and let them go in alone? Iím am furious but am I overreacting? Home is vacant but high end staged and contractors tools still on basement. I donít give out lockbox code on rentals because there is a problem with squatters here.
Another Bad Realtor (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 9:04 AM
HOLY COW! I can't think of a more egregious violation of a Realtor's ethics code and possibly the law. --50.82.xxx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 9:18 AM
Full disclosure ... I worked with the same realtor for 30 years. She ROUTINLY gave me lockbox codes to spare her the time. --198.168.xx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 10:16 AM
Well I have to confess ours has done it before too, but only in a time-crunch on an empty house. He has worked with us for a long time and does trust us of course.
However, the houses we look at are basically abandoned - certainly not occupied with any of the owners' stuff and often not even power. If they have people or possessions in them, he would go with us.
To lie about when confronted: how awkward and now how do you backtrack from that? --50.82.xxx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 10:21 AM
Iím sure itís not good policy but I must admit we did a similar thing 30 years ago buying our house. We went with our agent, house was vacant and owned by the bank. We wanted to go back, perhaps same day and our agent gave us the code to access the key. We did buy the house but Iím guessing it wasnít really an acceptable way to do business. --166.198.xx.xx
Another Bad Realtor (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 10:30 AM
It comes down to what your agreement with the agent says. If there's verbiage saying, "All tours will be personally accompained for the duration by either a Buyer or Seller agent" then they violated the agreement and I'd be talking to his/her Broker.
If the agreement says, "Agent will provide means of access..." that's too vague. Access can be anything that doesn't damage the property. I don't like vague and would fix that language for all future tours.
If the agreement is silent, then it needs to be specified what the level of expectation is for all future tours.
Keep in mind: real estate agents have very minimal training requirements, and while REALTORS (which 97%+ of real estate agents are) have a code of ethics and conduct, there isn't (to my knowledge) a nationwide standard set of rules for how properties are marketed and shown. That's up for you to discuss and get in writing at the time the agency agreement is established. You cannot assume that just because you want personally accompanied tours that your agent knows this and agrees to provide it. Whenever in doubt, get it in writing.
Another Bad Realtor (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 10:43 AM
Another episode of lack of honor in that profession. --71.188.xx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 11:20 AM
That is only ok if you as the owner was ok with it,it sounds like you were not and since they lied they knew it wasnt ok.Your broker could put in a complaint with the buyers agents broker i am assuming but i doubt anything will develop from it. --74.77.xx.xx
Another Bad Realtor (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 1:29 PM
Little bit funny ... had the lockbox code to a home in foreclosure. I sold it, buyer also sold then the next owner lost it. I wanted to see what - if any - upgrades were made. House was SUPOSED to be empty. While giving my self a tour I woke the owner who MOVED BACK IN!
Very awkward moment. --198.168.xx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 1:33 PM
tryan wow- a friend and myself have keys to most houses where a bank has changed the locks before foreclosing,my friend walked into a house to check it out a couple days before the auction and there was a manican sitting at a desk like he was working on a computer,he said he was so scared he almost had to go home and change his underwear --74.77.xx.xx
Another Bad Realtor (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 1:41 PM
Just request that your house be put on Supra --172.58.xxx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 2:01 PM
Sadly this happened to my cousin that moved out of state, I came to cut the lawn and found back door open, copper torn away, wall mounted tv gone - all the wiring cut. Only 1 realtor card on the countertop, very - very suspicious. I can only think of another similar time I went with my niece to look at a house close to us, we arrived and the side door wide open - I prepared for a confontation and just when we went in the side thieves went out the front and dropped some pipes making that familiar clattering sound, she called cops but they had already took off in the very common white contractor van - I had one myself a few times. --76.190.xxx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by Anonymous [MA]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 2:49 PM
Contractor did the showing. Prospective buyer is a first time home buyer, no seasoned pro that has years of working with this realtor. If he buys, contractor should get the commission. He wasnít leaving a stranger alone with all those tools. --68.191.xx.xx
Another Bad Realtor (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 4:03 PM
Ken - Too funny! This business is not for the faint heart!
In my case it was a YOUNG kid ... I was twice his size. Of course size doesn't matter if the "home owner" is packing a glock. Was he REALLY the home owner ... who knows. I saw what I needed to and got out. --198.168.xx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 4:56 PM
Years ago I bought a run down house from a builder that was going under. We closed the deal, I changed the locks and had been working on it for about a week. Showed up one morning and couldn't get into the house, locks had been changed, materials taken, and notice hung in window of no trespassing and a phone number. Long story short the out of state bank (which had been paid off the week before) send their contracted hack over to break in and secure the place as part of a foreclosure. He gave me the bank contact name and number after I told him I was going to have him arrested for breaking and entering. One call and I demanded reimbursement for damages. They sent me a check.
I would at least call the agents broker and tell him the situation and that you will be checking to see if any tools are missing and expecting him to reimburse the loss. Make him sweat a bit. --209.205.xxx.xx
Another Bad Realtor (by Bonanza [NC]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 7:37 PM
I guess it depends on how far you want to take it. You could certainly get the agent in trouble with his state board. Just about every state has an online form to file a complaint.
If the agent is part of the REALTORs group they could be in more trouble
Why don't you have a little conversation with the head of the local RE firm. I am not sure how it is done in MA but in NC there is a broker in charge who's job it is to keep all the other brokers from messing up. Maybe the offending agent needs some ethics training with evidence of such provided to you. --65.188.xxx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 8:16 PM
Notwithstanding WMH's response ("HOLY COW! I can't think of a more egregious violation of a Realtor's ethics code and possibly the law"), this does not strike me as a serious breach of ethics. Although the realtor is opening him/herself up for significant risk of damages for allowing a prospective purchaser to enter unsupervised, it is not a big deal. As evidenced by the several board members whose realtors have allowed them.
Forgeries, conspiracy in transactions, self-dealing, theft from houses being show, lots of "more egregious violations." --76.4.xxx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 9:52 PM
I worked with a realtor who routinely gave me the code to view the property by myself. I had a long relationship with him however. I would not want someone in a property I was selling who wasn't the realtor however. The problem is that many Realtors aren't that professional.
I may be selling a property shortly using a discount broker and I won't hang a lockbox for that very reason. Prospects will need to set up an appointment with me. --209.122.xx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by don [PA]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 11:31 PM
I have done it (as a broker) BUT only in a situation where the buyer was a long time friend of mine AND the house was vacant. Told him that if anyone came to tell them I had an emergency call and had to leave. --73.141.xxx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Jan 28, 2023 8:45 AM
Its a trust thing as I have been given the code
at least 40 (separate) times. Never a problem.
Another Bad Realtor (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Jan 28, 2023 11:54 AM
Is the property listed with an agent? If so, call your listing agent and rip him a new one and he will roll it downhill and rip into the buyer's agent.
If the property is not listed, call the buyer's agent's boss and file a complaint.
I'd be furious if an agent allowed strangers into a furnished house alone. In fact, I don't want strangers wandering around in my vacant houses. I've experienced damage from potential buyers on several occasions even when their agent is there with them. I sure don't want them there with no one keeping an eye on them. --76.178.xxx.xxx
Another Bad Realtor (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Jan 28, 2023 7:58 PM
I sold a SFH last year. I was showing the remodel to a friend and we found the last showing(July) had turned the furnace up to 100F and left it on and also plugged the sink in half bath off kitchen and left the water on. I had a talk with my realtor about it, but she pled ignorance and even seemed to not believe me. Glad the house sold fast as I found out you have to keep a check on your for sale properties. --216.23.xxx.xx
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