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security systems (by Brenda [TX]) Jan 26, 2023 4:53 PM
       security systems (by Gene [OH]) Jan 26, 2023 5:52 PM
       security systems (by BillW [NJ]) Jan 26, 2023 5:54 PM
       security systems (by PG [SC]) Jan 26, 2023 6:07 PM
       security systems (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 26, 2023 6:45 PM
       security systems (by Vee [OH]) Jan 26, 2023 6:56 PM
       security systems (by MikeA [TX]) Jan 26, 2023 11:40 PM
       security systems (by Scott [IN]) Jan 27, 2023 10:45 AM
       security systems (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jan 27, 2023 11:25 PM
       security systems (by Laura C [KY]) Apr 26, 2023 6:19 AM

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security systems (by Brenda [TX]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2023 4:53 PM

How do you handle when a tenant wants to install a security sytem?

This is what I have previously said: "What you install into the wall or door has to stay permanently and that you can't change out the deadbolt.


security systems (by Gene [OH]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2023 5:52 PM

I've had that question come up multiple times in the past. I always let them know that they can do so as long as they drill no holes in the walls, windows, doors, etc.

So far, most tenants have not installed a system since my properties are in very nice neighborhoods with very little crime. However, the new wireless systems are much easier to install and then they can take them with them if they decide to move.

security systems (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2023 5:54 PM

I try to understand what the demand is across my tenant base. If it's something that many want, and are willing to pay for, so there's an ROI, then I may provide it. If it's just something one person wants, then they pay for it and I install it. I don't let tenants do work on my properties.

security systems (by PG [SC]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2023 6:07 PM

One of my current tenants replaced the existing doorbell with a Ring Camera Doorbell - No issues so for - when the tenant leaves I can keep the Ring or the tenant can take it with him. --72.173.xx.xx

security systems (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2023 6:45 PM

A tenant can order a free ADT system, with a 2 year contract, a $850 offer for free. But if they don't stay and pay off the system, you need to read the small print. That' runs around $49 per month with wireless cellphone tower communication to the Central Station.

Or they can buy a DIY (Do it yourself) alarm also.

In my town, Los Angeles, it doesn't make a difference because the police no longer respond to alarm calls. Owners still are required to pay an annual Police Alarm Permit, $30.

I allow my tenants to install their own alarms. One gal wanted a camera system so she could watch any motion around her front or rear apartment door. But she did not have WiFi, and I told her so. She ordered a system and had a friend install it. And she couldn't get it working.

security systems (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2023 6:56 PM

Be sure to stay in control of access codes, you keep the master code out of reach.

security systems (by MikeA [TX]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2023 11:40 PM

First off my lease is clear that they need to provide an access code for maintenance entry.

I had my worst experience yet after a tenant left this fall. It is clear in my lease that no modifications are to be made to the house without written approval but didn't stop the tenant or the installer. This tenant hired Vivant to install a security system. They destroyed the wire to the front doorbell, drilled 3/4 inch holes in all exterior doors and doorjambs, drilled holes through the side of the house and into two closets and poked wires through the sheetrock ceilings from there to install a couple of cameras, left wires hanging out of the side of some outlets, drilled holes in the aluminum window frames, and a variety of other elements of poor craftsmanship. The repairs ate up more than the held security deposit when they moved out.

Based on this experience, I would want to talk through what they want to do with the installer. It needs to be completely wireless, glue on sensor mounts (no holes), wires run through wall cavities and standard electrical boxes with associated cover plates if necessary. After talking through it with him I would give him a written list of these requirements and require a signature of acknowledgement before I would authorize the work. There seems to be a complete lack of craftsmanship in cable and security system installers these days so be careful what you authorize.

security systems (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 10:45 AM

I never do this for tenants. When they ask, I tell them it would expose me to too much liability if the system failed and something bad happened to them as a result. They can do their own but only replace existing doorbells and exterior floodlights with wireless camera equivalents.

security systems (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 11:25 PM

In the installed three camera outside of house along a recorder inside where had to drill throught to mount security cameras outside as vehicles thevies tryed to steal my Tacoma where the thevies knock on door then told me the window was open where went out where used a key to open door so the thevies would not get the code to make up a duplicate key fob. They drove by one Sunday where they seen security cameras on front of house along motion sensor lights which deter criminal activity. Most of the vehicles stolen here wind up in Lago Nigeria where the government there will not return stolen vehicles. One reporter went to a car lot where the stolen vehicles even had Canadian provincial license plates on them. The person said they were from Us where open door then seen label that is vehicle is sold in Canada along with speedometer is kilometers per hour and odometer is in kilometers. If owned a Tacoma automatic then would have key fob where thevies can pick up code up to 200 meters away where the Tacoma would be gone forever. One time at a stop light the van next to me said the tailgate was open where put in reverse where the camera showed tailgate was closed. If would have left vehicle they would have high jacked vehilce then drove off. When I go to parking lot the lock on the door where no code is transmitted. So without a code it ends right there. At Costco they sell wifi camera security system where preferred hard wire type.

security systems (by Laura C [KY]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2023 6:19 AM

With increased crime, I'm offering Ring system to returning long-term trustworthy tenants to be deducted from security deposit in the event they do not return it at end of lease term or move-out. Scott's disclaimer that any liability falls on them and not landlord makes sense to add to lease.

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