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moved in 2nd person? (by etrz [PA]) Jan 26, 2023 3:05 PM
       moved in 2nd person? (by MC [PA]) Jan 26, 2023 4:06 PM
       moved in 2nd person? (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 26, 2023 6:57 PM
       moved in 2nd person? (by MG [NJ]) Jan 27, 2023 8:14 AM
       moved in 2nd person? (by etrz [PA]) Jan 27, 2023 8:15 AM
       moved in 2nd person? (by Scott [IN]) Jan 27, 2023 10:52 AM
       moved in 2nd person? (by Hoosier [IN]) Jan 27, 2023 1:48 PM
       moved in 2nd person? (by small potatoes [NY]) Jan 28, 2023 11:25 PM
       moved in 2nd person? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jan 31, 2023 11:44 AM

moved in 2nd person? (by etrz [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2023 3:05 PM

Have great tenant in 1 BR with excellent application results when moved in 2 years ago, pays on time, no issues. Lease renews 2/1/23, didn't plan to increase rent and now is probably too late to. Last year tenant had mentioned that significant other was getting out of military, said this person may then stay with their family part of month and then also stay part of month in unit. Earlier this month tenant said (in passing) that 2nd person "was there." I planned to address with lease renewal next week. I don't know as yet whether this person is still in the military or if their time is done.

Last term's lease reads that rent will increase by $50 if another person moves in. I will inquire next week if 2nd person if living there and then to run an application on them, etc. I do know that the water bill that I pay for the 2-unit building has gone up significantly over the last month.

I need advice here on how to proceed, please. What if this military person is only staying there 2 weeks a month? How would you handle entire situation? Thank you for your assistance.

moved in 2nd person? (by MC [PA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2023 4:06 PM

I would charge for the extra person. You should run a credit/background on them as well. Either make them responsible for the rent or charge more than $50 per month. You said yourself that the utilities have increased. It will get worse. Just because they are military does not necessarily make them responsible. You don't even have confirmation that they are military. Or make the lease MTM. You know your T and area. I would call BS for not telling you directly. Either he/she pays as a T or they both can go. It is the perils of playing house.

moved in 2nd person? (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 26, 2023 6:57 PM

I had this similar problem, an unauthorized occupant in a 1 bedroom apartment. Now I have a higher water and sewer bill because of this extra person. Showing, washing cloths, etc.

So the best way to handle these situations is DO NOT STRESS over it. Have a meaningful conversation with the tenant, not the guest.

Usually my tenant will say they can NOT ask their new "Squeeze" to contribute to the rent, or pay the additional fee for a second person. In my lease I charge $100 for each additional occupant.

So I explain that instead of asking their guest to pay the extra $100 per month fee, they should now SPLIT THE RENT IN HALF! My tenant is now mad at me. So I then say, are you at least willing to cover my extra costs? Water, sewer and extra wear and tear?

My tenant thinks that I am hindering their love life by asking to cover my costs. So I hand deliver my 30 day notice on their rent increase. I tried to work it out and was shot down. So I follow the customary procedures and follow my lease.

Of course now that they are two people living together, they have more repair requests. I keep a record and proof of my additional repairs, requests and save it for when necessary.

moved in 2nd person? (by MG [NJ]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 8:14 AM

Increase whatever amount you want. I don't provide reasons for increases, so would just issue an increase for March or April depending upon the notice period in my lease.

Would you charge more when leasing a new apartment to two people compared to one?


moved in 2nd person? (by etrz [PA]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 8:15 AM

Thank you very much for the responses. It is greatly appreciated.

moved in 2nd person? (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 10:52 AM

Robert J, "Squeeze". LMAO. I don't think I've heard that expression since the 70's

moved in 2nd person? (by Hoosier [IN]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2023 1:48 PM

Our lease has a clause that any person staying 2 weeks or more in any 12 month period, even if on non-contiguous days, is considered a resident and will have to fill out an application.

What I usually do is first ask the tenant how long the person will be or has been staying, THEN I tell them about the lease clause stating 14 days, which they have forgotten about, then they try to backtrack and say "oh I was mistaken, it hasn't been that long", etc...and I tell them the person will have to apply and pay the application fee and a new lease signing fee and so on..I don't give them an option at that point.

I will admit it can be difficult to "prove" that a person is staying in the house rather than just "visiting". You can ask the tenant to "prove" the person is NOT living at your house...for example tell them that you will be requiring once a month a redacted copy of two mail items from the person such as a paystub or phone bill that shows their home address is elsewhere and that you'll be checking on that address...but at some point it just gets rediculous.

moved in 2nd person? (by small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jan 28, 2023 11:25 PM

Do you have reason to think the tenant might not be honest w/ you? You can renew lease and ask her if she want SO on lease. You could let it go to MTM. Sounds like your lease needs updating on guest policy. You can always increase rent just give the proper notice your state requires. In NY a tenant going on yr 3 would get 60 days notice. --67.240.xx.xx

moved in 2nd person? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 31, 2023 11:44 AM

If the military person stuff is in the place - they are living there. Does it really matter how many days a month they are there? If there is a renters insurance claim on the place, the insurance company is going to ask for the names of everyone who lives there. If the tenant lies about this, then the claim will get turned down.

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