School records (by Jo [CT]) Jan 23, 2023 6:44 AM|
School records (by Still Learning [NH]) Jan 23, 2023 7:03 AM
School records (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Jan 23, 2023 7:59 AM
School records (by Jo [CT]) Jan 23, 2023 8:06 AM
School records (by Vee [OH]) Jan 23, 2023 8:36 AM
School records (by John... [MI]) Jan 23, 2023 8:47 AM
School records (by Jo [CT]) Jan 23, 2023 9:37 AM
School records (by Dee Ann [WI]) Jan 23, 2023 9:49 AM
School records (by Barb [MO]) Jan 23, 2023 10:05 AM
School records (by Jo [CT]) Jan 23, 2023 10:26 AM
School records (by Small potatoes [NY]) Jan 23, 2023 10:50 AM
School records (by Barb [MO]) Jan 23, 2023 11:14 AM
School records (by Robert J [CA]) Jan 23, 2023 12:48 PM
School records (by Jim [OH]) Jan 23, 2023 4:23 PM
School records (by Barb [MO]) Jan 23, 2023 11:05 PM
School records (by Jo [CT]) Jan 24, 2023 7:05 AM
School records (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 25, 2023 1:12 AM
School records (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 25, 2023 1:15 AM
School records (by Phil [OR]) Jan 25, 2023 5:34 AM
Click here to reply to this discussion.
Click Here to send this discussion to a friend
School records (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 6:44 AM
For those of you who rent to students, do you ask for their scholastic school records? Is this considered a privacy issue?
I normally donít do this as Iíve never felt a need to however, I recently got an inquiry for a room from a young woman and Iím a bit suspect about her story.
She said she goes to one of the colleges and she is in mechanical engineering. I asked her what year and she told me she was a freshman.
Her reason for wanting to move was being in a relationship with her boyfriend and finding out certain things about him and she needs to move ASAP however a few things donít add up when I asked her some questions. I suppose it wouldnít matter if she were a student or not me I just want to make sure that sheís truthful about all this before I make a decision, thatís why I want to ask about her scholastic record.
Iím not sure thereís another way to prove she goes to that school. --68.191.xx.xxx
School records (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 7:03 AM
She would have a student ID from her school. If she is a freshman, she would be in a dorm so no landlord reference. Who is paying? If you donít rent to students and this one needs to move ASAP and you feel she is lying, this sounds like itís not the time to change who you rent to. --75.67.xxx.xxx
School records (by Mapleaf18 [NY]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 7:59 AM
In NY even PARENTS who are PAYING their kids way are not allowed any info from the uni w/o the KID'S permission
School records (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 8:06 AM
My main tenants are all students as I live close to two universities. Thatís right, she would have a student ID and I could certainly ask for that as I ask for drivers licenses as well.
Relationship with Boyfriend went South so thatís her need to move but will definitely will be doing more background checks.
Will need her application to know her true age. Usually Freshman are around 19 years old and she mentioned she was with her boyfriend for five years which would make her 14 but she may be older and may be truthful in everything. Just have to wait to check things out.
School records (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 8:36 AM
I have a couple places next to campus, they seems to talk with a previous tenant and get my info that way - some offer teacher letters that comes on school heading. I don't think I ever been scammed from a student there, I think you have already uncovered something regarding the boyfriend. --76.190.xxx.xxx
School records (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 8:47 AM
Mapleaf18 wrote "In NY even PARENTS who are PAYING their kids way are not allowed any info from the uni w/o the KID'S permission"
And that's the way it should be. Too many helicopter parents out there. Yes, I get that they paid, but that payment is between them and their parents -- it shouldn't give them access to the kid's records.
Just like if you had a tenant who was late with the rent and their friend handed you cash for the rent that month. It doesn't magically give that friend access to their apartment or even any records about previous payments.
Similar, if a person goes to a hospital for something -- even if they are still on their parents insurance because they are 23 years old -- that still doesn't give their parents access to their health records.
So, I completely agree with a university not providing a student's records to the parents -- regardless of who pays. Who pays does not change someone's right to privacy in those cases. --67.209.xxx.xx
School records (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 9:37 AM
Yes I understand the privacy issues and I believe a student ID would have been just fine however, she texted me about 20 minutes ago and told me that she had already found another place.
We were supposed to meet at noon so I could show her the room. At least she was courteous to let me know. In the future, student IDs will work fine. --68.191.xx.xxx
School records (by Dee Ann [WI]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 9:49 AM
Just a word of caution on boyfriends, had a similar situation, and she ended up still with the boyfriend for 3 more years before dumping him. No real way to know if something is just an argument that will turn around, which could have happened in this case.
COnsider yourself blessed you didn't have to deal with renting to her, only to have her change her mind later in the process and wasting more of your time, or even worse, having a boyfriend, perhaps a combatative one you wouldn't have approved of coming over or moving in. --75.11.xx.xx
School records (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 10:05 AM
I ask for them to get a copy of their current unofficial transcript, which they can download free from the student info system. I explain I want it as I donít accept students currently on academic probation or academic deficiencies, as the likelihood of them breaking the lease is high.
I donít do parent co-signers, but do require a copy of the annual student financial aid award letter.
Between the SFA letter and their transcript l get good studious students who are there to study, not party. --149.76.xxx.xx
School records (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 10:26 AM
Dee Ann, yes youíre correct about the Boyfriend thing. After she told me the situation I mentioned to her that I would be concerned about the boyfriend possibly showing up and she assured me no he wouldnít well I donít have to worry about that now.
Barb, yes, that is what I was thinking about. The transcripts. I know I canít get their academic records and I knew there was something that I could get from the college and that was it! You are correct to know if someone is on probation or not but you mentioned exactly what I was going to be needing. --68.191.xx.xxx
School records (by Small potatoes [NY]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 10:50 AM
what I was a freshman I had to live on campus. unless this is a community College, have things changed that much? --68.161.xxx.xx
School records (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 11:14 AM
Small potatoes - every school is different.
Our local U requires those with under 60 credit hours to live on campus, unless they are over age 21 or have a parent or grandparent who lives locally (defined by the school based on county) or they have a child, or they are married, or they fill out the right form and get it approved.
I know of students who have gotten exemptions for religious reasons. The U does not keep a Kosher or Halal kitchen, for example. --149.76.xxx.xx
School records (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 12:48 PM
We as landlord are not supposed to discriminate based on legal income. So when a scholarship student applies to my rental, listing that as a major part of their income, I look at their credit report as guidance to their money management skills.
I had one dumb kid apply for a two bedroom. Just him. He was going to rent out the two bedroom and live in the dinning area, real estate as another source of income. So he did not have a dime to his name and was already $30,000 in debt. A new car. Student loans and credit cards.
I told him to run a real estate rental business, he needed 9 months worth of expenses saved in the bank, he had nothing -- goodby! --47.149.xxx.x
School records (by Jim [OH]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 4:23 PM
I do not care about the school records of my tenants and I will add that the local college could care less about my leasing agreements with any students that they are educating. --184.57.xxx.xx
School records (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Jan 23, 2023 11:05 PM
Jim, the college records are part of the alternative screening for a student applicant who does not have employment to use to qualify. Iíve been using my alternative screening tools for about 20 years.
The student financial aid award letter tells their financial story. Since most of my student applicants donít show up in a credit database yet, or if they do their credit history is so short it doesnít really matter, their SFA award letter tells me the info I need.
If the student is Pell Eligible, particularly if they receive a supplemental state grant, the studentís family financial situation is such that the parents likely cannot help them out if they run short. The family just doesnít have the $$$. BUT if the student is Pell Eligible, then it means the university is likely offering them a financial aid package sufficient to cover their expected cost of attendance. It is likely a package of grants, loans and scholarships, but there should be enough to cover their tuition and living expenses. For many of these students, they will write a check to cover 6 months of rent as soon as their financial aid refund shows up.
If the student is only awarded an Unsubsidized Loan, then that often means the family has the financial resources to cover their tuition. It may mean I need to do a little more inquiry to find out how they pay their bills. This may include asking for bank statements, etc. sometimes it means a parent will simply write me a check for rent for the year term.
I ask for transcripts because it tells me what kind of student Iím dealing with. Our local U uses a 4.0 GPA system. If a student has under a 2.0 that means they are not passing their classes,not making progress toward graduation. I donít want that student, they will vanish and leave me hanging.
To be honest, I donít want a student with under a 2.5 because the student can so easily slip low and vanish. They may be partying, they may just not be interested in what they are studying. Either way, Iím not interested.
Iím looking for student tenants with a 2.75 GPA or above and who have a good mix of academic scholarships that they study hard to keep. Iím looking for graduate students who will be here for 3-5 years and have a funded position as a research assistant or teaching assistant.
Like I said, it is an alternative way of qualifying a person who otherwise doesnít qualify to rent. After all, they donít have a job, they donít have a regular income, they donít have a previous landlord or property manager to call. They are moving out of their parents home or the university housing. . --149.76.xxx.xx
School records (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Jan 24, 2023 7:05 AM
Barb, excellent explaination. --68.191.xx.xxx
School records (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2023 1:12 AM
Rent to Music Majors. As a Music Major I was never home, always at rehearsals and practice rooms until midnight and later. 1 credit hour of ensemble was 4 hours per week in rehearsal.
The guys working the desk in my dorm did not even know I loved there. Wifey and I dated by taking walks after midnight. (It worked!)
School records (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2023 1:15 AM
Well I guess I loved there too!
Once you get a music student they will bring more.
School records (by Phil [OR]) Posted on: Jan 25, 2023 5:34 AM
We have several rentals that have been always rented by college students. We LOVE to rent to engineering students--they are in a program where they can not afford the time to party too much--often have intern jobs in the summer that pay $40k, and are garnishable after they graduate.
It is the business majors that seem to party --A LOT --76.138.xxx.xxx
Click Here to send this discussion to a friend
Report discussion to Webmaster