Ma service animal
Click here for Top Ten Discussions. CLICK HERE for Q & A Homepage
Receive Free Rental Owner Updates Email:  
MrLandlord Q & A
     
     
Ma service animal (by mark [MA]) Dec 7, 2022 8:03 AM
       Ma service animal (by John... [MI]) Dec 7, 2022 8:46 AM
       Ma service animal (by DJ [VA]) Dec 7, 2022 8:56 AM
       Ma service animal (by Steve [MA]) Dec 7, 2022 9:02 AM
       Ma service animal (by S i d [MO]) Dec 7, 2022 9:56 AM
       Ma service animal (by mark [MA]) Dec 7, 2022 11:44 AM
       Ma service animal (by Vee [OH]) Dec 7, 2022 12:42 PM
       Ma service animal (by LordZen [MA]) Dec 7, 2022 6:46 PM
       Ma service animal (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Dec 8, 2022 8:18 PM
       Ma service animal (by mark [MA]) Dec 9, 2022 9:47 PM

Click here to reply to this discussion.
Click Here to send this discussion to a friend

Ma service animal (by mark [MA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2022 8:03 AM
Message:

We have a real PITA tenant that we want to get out. Among his violations he moved in 2 dogs and two cats. The renat contract(MTM) says no pets,.He claims to other tenants if he is told to get rid of them he will have his Dr issue a emotional pet paper. But they have not done that yet (about 6 months ago when they moved in most) Would it be valid for them to do that after the fact? A lawyer is working on the eviction.

--37.19.xxx.xx




Ma service animal (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2022 8:46 AM
Message:

Even with online Emotional Support mills, he's unlikely to get documentation for FOUR different pets. Just let the lawyer continue with the eviction. What he says to other tenants is probably close to worthless. --96.40.xx.xxx




Ma service animal (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2022 8:56 AM
Message:

John is right.

Also, many states now require an actual ongoing relationship with the medical provider. So try not to lose too much sleep over it.

In the meantime, figure out where your screening failed you. Was there no sign of pets at their previous home, during your in-home visit?

You might want to add that to your screening process. --68.229.xxx.xxx




Ma service animal (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2022 9:02 AM
Message:

I concur with John. Let your lawyer handle this --72.93.xxx.xx




Ma service animal (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2022 9:56 AM
Message:

A very knowledgeable, reputable property manager in my town who has vast experience dealing with ESAs (emotional support animals) stated formally at a landlord training session that I attended recently said that each ESA must serve a DIFFERENT function. That's to say, you can't have 10 puppies just because you wuv dem vewy much and their cuties wettle faces make you smiwile.

Others here have disagreed, but generally speaking in our areas that seems to be safe ground to tread.

Btw, we need to clear up terminology. Your post says, "service animal". Then you said emotional support animal. They are NOT the same thing. Service animals are specific defined as dogs that are trained to perform a specific function to assist a person with a disability. Think "seeing eye dog."

By contrast: cute little cuddlers are ESAs. They often have no training whatsoever.

The downside is the law requires you to accept BOTH, regardless of pet policies, without charging any extra rent or deposit.... IF the tenant has the required documentation.

As John said, odds are they won't get it. But as you noted, they moved them in months ago when they clearly were NOT functioning as either service animals or ESAs. Evict based on past lease violation.

If your eviction attorney is competent, he/she will know everything I've just typed out. Btw, I hope you hired someone who is a local, experienced, landlord/tenant attorney who does evictions multiple times per week. You don't want the family friend or someone who practices in some other area of law. They are typically more expensive and will rack up charges educating themselves on stuff that someone who does evictions regularly already knows. We call them "eviction mill attorneys" here. My attorney's office has 3 attorneys in court most days, Monday thru Friday, each booting 5-8 cases PER DAY. Flat fee of $350 unless we go to trial, and we almost never do. I have never lost an eviction. Ask around a local landlord Facebook group for who has the best rates of success for the best price. You want someone who is the legal equivalent of a pit bull on your side.

Good luck!

--184.4.xx.xx




Ma service animal (by mark [MA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2022 11:44 AM
Message:

Thank you guys for the great information,.

Yes I know the difference but couldn't fit "Ma emotional support animal in the subject box and felt that anyone that responded would sort that out as well. --185.199.xxx.xxx




Ma service animal (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2022 12:42 PM
Message:

Your atty will know to observe the date on the doctor order and ask the court to dismiss this fraudulent animal application. --76.190.xxx.xxx




Ma service animal (by LordZen [MA]) Posted on: Dec 7, 2022 6:46 PM
Message:

Mark please post the outcome for us to know, i will be really interested. Do you participate from MassLandlords? --98.216.xx.xxx




Ma service animal (by Oregon Woodsmoke [ID]) Posted on: Dec 8, 2022 8:18 PM
Message:

You aren't evicting for the animals, are you? You file for eviction first for legal grounds and then it doesn't matter if they get the animals certified as emotional support pets after you file, since you are not evicting because of the animals. --76.178.xxx.xxx




Ma service animal (by mark [MA]) Posted on: Dec 9, 2022 9:47 PM
Message:

OK good point, we have a number of violations of their rental contract that we can cite.

We belong to the local LL's association only.Never heard of Masslandlords. --185.195.xx.x



Click Here to send this discussion to a friend
Report discussion to Webmaster


Reply:
Subject: RE: Ma service animal
Your Name:
Your State:

Message:
Ma service animal
Would you like to be notified via email when somebody replies to this thread?
If so, you must include your valid email address here. Do not add your address more than once per thread/subject. By entering your email address here, you agree to receive notification from Mrlandlord.com every time anyone replies to "this" thread. You will receive response notifications for up to one week following the original post. Your email address will not be visible to readers.
Email Address: