OT: hospital no doctors (by AllyM [NJ]) Nov 23, 2022 11:15 AM|
OT: hospital no doctors (by Scott [IN]) Nov 23, 2022 12:02 PM
OT: hospital no doctors (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Nov 23, 2022 12:08 PM
OT: hospital no doctors (by Ed [CA]) Nov 23, 2022 12:35 PM
OT: hospital no doctors (by LTD [AZ]) Nov 23, 2022 2:10 PM
OT: hospital no doctors (by John... [MI]) Nov 23, 2022 3:03 PM
OT: hospital no doctors (by John... [MI]) Nov 23, 2022 3:05 PM
OT: hospital no doctors (by S i d [MO]) Nov 24, 2022 7:54 AM
OT: hospital no doctors (by JR [ME]) Nov 24, 2022 11:13 AM
OT: hospital no doctors (by Laura [MD]) Nov 24, 2022 11:30 AM
OT: hospital no doctors (by Allym [NJ]) Nov 25, 2022 11:26 AM
OT: hospital no doctors (by John... [MI]) Nov 25, 2022 9:18 PM
OT: hospital no doctors (by Wilma [PA]) Nov 26, 2022 2:59 PM
OT: hospital no doctors (by Nicole [PA]) Nov 28, 2022 2:09 PM
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OT: hospital no doctors (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2022 11:15 AM
So local hospital, newer building etc. I had surgery there 7 years ago plus cancer treatment, lots of problems. Tenant's sister rushed there. She had knee replacement and emergency hernia surgery elsewhere and was not recuperating well and crashed. So she asked to go to this one. Well, she was not doing well and went into some kind of loud, scary, behavior Saturday night into Sunday. Husband was there overnight. Nursing staff said there were not doctors at the hospital so they called 911 and asked if EMTs could come and would they come up to this floor. Sure, they said and the went and took her vital signs. No treatment, no transport. Just making sure she was not dying. Has anyone ever had to do this? Knee implant is titanium so shouldn't be causing this, right? She also developed a kidney infection. She could not get around and exercise her leg due to the hernia surgery. Previous hospital had dismissed it as not as necessary as the knee job and then she got sick from it and they did emergency surgery at midnight one night. This is bad. Has anyone heard of such a thing as not having a doctor over the weekend at the hospital? --71.188.xx.xxx
OT: hospital no doctors (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2022 12:02 PM
My wife is a BSN in the ICU at a smallish hospital. She works the night shift. Doctors there work ONLY day shifts. Covid has imposed a lot of financial hardship on hospitals, especially smaller ones. It would not surprise me if a small hospital couldn't find or afford adequate doctor staffing. --107.141.xx.xxx
OT: hospital no doctors (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2022 12:08 PM
Shortage of medical staff here is a problem where some provinces are beginning to compensate family doctors. Like everywhere else they need to make it easier for foreign doctors to practice. Health care is where those who live a unhealthy life style wind in EU. Diet, not smoking along avoiding salt and sugar is important while not drinking soft drinks. If you watch Fox news they view universal health care as a failure when in reality if anyolne asked the majority of people here they would not want to go a system where only those who are weathy can afford health care. The pandemic really strained health care as the capaicity could not expand for the people who were not vaccinated then wound up in intensive care. Now the cirisis is behind us where there are other short term issues. Specialsit doctors are well compensated here as they need to retain here where people bringing up how much they bring in where they ignore reality when you into a office there are large overheads like rent along with a staff that has a payroll. There is a after hours clinic here where can avoid going into emergency. --68.69.xxx.xxx
OT: hospital no doctors (by Ed [CA]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2022 12:35 PM
Considering what happened with covid, who in their right mind would consider a career in medicine. --108.201.xx.xx
OT: hospital no doctors (by LTD [AZ]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2022 2:10 PM
You are usually only going to find 24 hr MD's at university or teaching hospitals (residents) and urban trauma centers.
My GP who was awesome and got my cancer fast tracked, retired about 18 months ago. He was an old school, country Doc. I always felt like I should bring him a chicken or goat to swap for services. LOL I miss him but he's 75 and has his own health issues now. :(
His partner I guess bought him out and is the Dr of record now, but he has four clinics in different towns, I've never seen him. All we have now is a Nurse Practitioner. She is very good, but mainly is a conduit for specialist referrals, prescriptions and wellness checks. She can consult with the Doctor if needed.
I have a friend in CO who is also a retired NP and winters here, so if I need a second opinion I call her. She works for banana bread and wine. ;)
When I sliced my arm last winter, at the ER all they had on duty is a PA (Physician Asst). He was just fine. "My" surgeon, is also a personal friend. If something big happens he or another doctor are called in. It only takes about 10 min to get most places in our town, so if someone needs an emergency appendectomy it's not a big delay.
Any trauma beyond a chipped finger nail is stabalized and "life flighted" to Vegas 150 miles away. That seems to be the trend in rural america now. --47.216.xxx.xxx
OT: hospital no doctors (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2022 3:03 PM
Ed: I'm not sure what you mean. We do work with a local hospital. They thrived during Covid. Things were tough, yes, because people didn't get vaccinated and were filling them past capacity. But from a financial standpoint, they've had a great two years. (In fact, they are building an addition to double their size right now.)
They make a lot of money and pay their employees very well. That is why lots of people "in their right mind" would consider a career in medicine.
I don't see what you mean by "considering what happened with Covid" that would necessarily make people not want to go into medicine. Other than too many people being foolish and not getting vaccinated and therefore making their jobs involve dealing the death of more patients...
OT: hospital no doctors (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Nov 23, 2022 3:05 PM
Missed a word. I meant "...making their jobs involve dealing WITH the death of more patients" in that last sentence.
OT: hospital no doctors (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2022 7:54 AM
Not to worry. The Govt will just pass laws mandating free healthcare for all. Then there will be no more shortages. Doctors of all specialties will be released from the bondage of the private system that rations them, along with plentiful supplies for all your ailments that the evil rich have been hoarding.
Didn't you guys know that per the dictates of progressive socialism that all you have to do to get everything you want is vote for it? (*wink) --65.56.xxx.xxx
OT: hospital no doctors (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2022 11:13 AM
In 2022, most any hospital other than the tiniest of ones would have one or more physicians in house 24/7, both in the ED and hospitalists working on the inpatient units. So, I would say with near 100% certainty, there is “more to the story.” --98.13.xx.xxx
OT: hospital no doctors (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Nov 24, 2022 11:30 AM
It is always a struggle on whether to confront folks spewing mistruths or to ignore them and let their reputation/history/presentation speak the volumes about creditability (or lack there of) instead. --108.56.xxx.xx
OT: hospital no doctors (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2022 11:26 AM
Thank you for the responses and especially Scott IN who confirms that this is happening elsewhere too. --71.188.xx.xxx
OT: hospital no doctors (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Nov 25, 2022 9:18 PM
Sid: You seem to have dived a bit off-topic, right? We're talking about a fairly normal situation of a hospital not having a doctor in-house on the weekend. As others have stated above and as I have also seen, that isn't THAT odd.
I don't see what that has to do with "mandated healthcare" and "shortages" and "plentiful supplies."
Can't you just discuss the topic at hand (again, some hospitals not having 24/7 doctors -- which likely has very little to do with "shortages") without trying to take it to a fairly unrelated topic of national healthcare?
OT: hospital no doctors (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Nov 26, 2022 2:59 PM
A recent experience with my MIL in a suburban hospital yielded the fact that while there were docs on staff at all times in the ER, they were only on call during the night hours in the hospital itself.
We also learned that due to the shortage of staff, it is imperative that any elderly loved one should have a family member with them at the times during which the attending doctors usually work - the various docs would walk in, tell her all kinds of stuff that she didn't understand or remember, then figure that their job was done. The social worker had WAY too many patients to handle, and while she did her best, we still had far too little info to go one once my MIL was released to rehab.
The nurses were working themselves ragged, but were as attentive and kind as their huge patient load would allow. Even the well-off 'burbs like ours have suffered major attrition due to people leaving the field after burning out due to COVID. --173.62.xxx.xxx
OT: hospital no doctors (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Nov 28, 2022 2:09 PM
I've spent A LOT of time in your area. CapitalHealth Systems, mercer campus is the best in my eyes ... and I don't have much good to say about a lot of the "medical systems" --98.237.xxx.xx
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