I recently had a rental re piped. I am not a stranger to this property but a major undertaking like this, I go deep into the house. Well this revealed the house is just not being taken care of, like the front storm door stays open, and now it's sagging. Weeds which are suppose to be taken care of by tenant are not. There are potential fire risks, a pile of plastic and molded bread next to an active toaster. Shelving in the closets are broken. Arched shower rods broken in a recently re tiled bathroom. This year I also put in a new central AC because it needed it. The roof is new. As the lease comes up for renewal in Jan we had a verbal ok but the lease has not been presented or signed. With my new knowledge about the continued degrading conditions, I do not want to renew with these tenants. But I am under 60 days. Do I have options?

Thank you Robert in On.

Thank you Robert in On.

not sure about FL but if they're on a lease and it's getting close to ending-- don't you just need 30 days notice that lease is over? If the lease is M2M maybe that requires 60 days.

I would give the notice now that the lease is not renewing.

We have decided to go in a different direction.

If you tell you 15 year old son that in order for him to get an allowance he has to mow the lawn, you will have weeds 10 feet tall! The same is for your tenant. You never allow a tenant to do a maintenance task, you hire a gardener and charge extra rent for the service!

As a contractor and an assistant manager for other landlords I was doing a plumbing job, also re-piping a single family house with a granny-flats rental unit.

I found under the house in the crawl space several 5 metal cans filled with gasoline. The cans were not designed for holding combustible flammable liquids. The main house tenant rented out the granny-flats unit to an old college buddy who drives a motorcycle and doesn't like getting gas at a station.

I did not contact the owner, but gave the main tenant a

3-Day Notice to Perform or Quit! Remove the cans with gasoline from the property. Then I contacted the owner and sent him pictures. He thought I was over dramatizing the situation. The owner voided out my notice and gave the tenants more time to resolve the stored gasoline.

Then months later while the tenant was transferring gas from a can to his motorcycle, an ignition flash occurred, due to smoking, and the tenant was hurt.

myob, I know that, and you know that, but Susan has not given any indication that she knows that. It's why I asked her the question.

Susan, you are laser focused on blaming the tenants who don't take care of your house. You should be giving more consideration to how and why the situation got that way. You put bad tenants in that house. What steps will you take to prevent a repetition of that mistake?

Scott (IN) You don't really know what you got until you have them, regardless of the filters you put in place. Things change, sometimes.

It didn't start out this way, I did my due diligence with background checks, criminal, prior evict and credit. For god sake the tenant is a commercial airline pilot. We had an excellent relationship, check always early. No problems ever.

Things went south after his part time custody son became full time live in, now a young adult, no driver's license, no high school diploma, no job, sleeps all day, plays video games all night. Dad is gone several days at a whack flying the friendly skies. And an extreme case of enabling the "poor son."

It is a situation that morphed. And actually if this was my son, I'd be drinking too. But if it was my son, his butt would be working or sleeping somewhere else.

The bottom line in this story is: You can not break the enabling illness.

On scheduled inspections or repairs, usually I am not micro inspecting inside closets, and behind bathroom shower curtains. In a major re-pipe, such as the case, you see things you normally do not witness because you are deep in the house. ( Giant foot prints on the wall in front of the commode in son's bathroom, when I addressed it, he said he saw a YouTube on constipation and it was suggested that would help. I told him obviously he missed part two that demonstrated how to clean off the foot prints, and had him do it before I left. Dad didn't think it was a big deal)

I am serving a notice of non renewal this week due to breach of agreement and neglect. And already have a better fit tenant in the cue. Thank you On, because you get it- your suggestion was brilliant.

Susan I get it-- you have a pilot who is for sure collectable if FL allows.

I did ask earlier-- is there an end date (lease end) or is this a M2M? You need to know FL law for lease end. maybe there's a FL LL'd here?

Myob GA. This is annual rent, he is finishing third year renewal. Renews Jan.Bases Orlando.I have my Fl statues for rental in place. It is vague on landlord's end for timeline for non renewing.

In my lease I have tenants must give 60 for notification of renewal or termination of annual lease.

Susan my opinion is if your have tenant give 60 days notice you as the LL should do the same. Why not just say the lease end date is January and we are not renewing? Then around the 22nd of December send the condition of premises letter to them. We also send a copy of the move in condition they signed when they signed the lease.