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References (by Susan [FL]) Nov 19, 2022 1:27 PM
       References (by Vee [OH]) Nov 19, 2022 1:38 PM
       References (by DJ [VA]) Nov 19, 2022 2:36 PM
       References (by Robert J [CA]) Nov 19, 2022 2:50 PM
       References (by myob [GA]) Nov 19, 2022 3:03 PM
       References (by Sisco [MO]) Nov 19, 2022 3:32 PM
       References (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Nov 19, 2022 6:32 PM
       References (by myob [GA]) Nov 20, 2022 8:12 AM
       References (by RB [TN]) Nov 20, 2022 12:19 PM
       References (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Nov 20, 2022 6:22 PM
       References (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Nov 20, 2022 9:44 PM
       References (by Tim [CA]) Nov 22, 2022 3:30 PM

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References (by Susan [FL]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2022 1:27 PM

I've been a landlord for many decades and feel like I'm pretty thorough in my background checks and reference checks employment checks etc and I feel like I've been pretty lucky until recently. A tenant I've had for 3 years I discover is just trashing the house he rents from me. When I say trash I mean just doesn't keep up the things that he's agreed to keeping up. He gives me all the verbals yeah okay I'll put the hurricane shutters up yeah okay everything's fine but when I go over to take a look things are not fine. We have discussion about it he agrees but the outcome is the same. My question is about references I ask for previous rental employment previous employment I do background criminal credit checks that stuff only goes so far You really don't know what kind of person they are. Of course if you ask for personal references not family they're going to give you a friend or two or three who says yeah they're great they're reliable If I had one person I had to depend on it would be this person. I've learned that doesn't mean squat. When it comes to being a responsible individual. So I'm curious as to what other references might I use aside from employment previous landlords etc thanks in advance.

References (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2022 1:38 PM

An in home inspection divulges many things a group of friends and family will not think is important - he grew up a slob and has many slob friends.

References (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2022 2:36 PM

What Vee said - se the home they are in before you let them in yours

References (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2022 2:50 PM

You raise several valid points. First if there is something needed to be done to protect my property (investment), I do not rely on a tenant. They pay me rent and are not employed by me so any expectations are very low that a tenant will follow thru the same way as a owner, employee or partner.

Therefore I will hire my gardener, handyman, pool service or professional to put up my storm shutters.

Next, back ground checks. My City and State (Los Angeles, California) has done it again! They have limited access to eviction records. They do not allow landlord to discriminate against:

A) Drunks that completed a 30 day sobriety course.

B) A Convicted person for a non-violent crime.

C) Someone who's been evicted in the past 90 days.

D) They make us accept Section 8 applicants even if they are

lying that they have no criminal background, smoke, have a

destructive dog that could be trained, dog has no mandatory

City License or hasn't gotten up to date vaccines.

Soon they want us to accept the applicants phony credit reports.

Therefore I have to "read between the lines" and set high standards to weed out undesirable's.

Undesirables have nothing to do with race, color, creed or religion. It's based on the persons ability to get along with others, pay their rent and not cause problems.

So you have to look at your area and governing body and determine what you need to do to protect yourself, your tenants, neighbors and guest.


References (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2022 3:03 PM

You can have the best tenant in the world and for years have no problems.

Then the rubber band snaps. Drugs, loss of a job, or loved one. We always follow this mantra. you don't know them til you live with um!

The LL's part is to act quickly and decisively. When there's a problem address it don't avoid it. We have sent numerous letters about condition of premises and the deterioration. We notify them that the lease is going to be terminated in 7 to 10 days if corrections aren't made. Day 11 we will be on site to make an inspection. Then we follow through with terminating the lease. This is usually followed by court action for none payment of rent. BYE BYE. --108.239.xx.xx

References (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2022 3:32 PM

The utility of previous LL references has changed. References will not reliably provide useful information of prompt payment, cleanliness, and adherence to lease terms. References may provide subtle hints at their personality type if you ask really great questions.

Focus on getting 6 months bank statements, study the statement to find if they keep their bills paid. While exceptions do exist, usually sloppy finances equal sloppy everything.

In home visit is a must nowadays.

References (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Nov 19, 2022 6:32 PM

Two common tricks is to use friends or relatives for a reference where ask before reference if they have any apartments or houses for rent. If the person does not know what you are talking about then that reference is a lie. Another common trick is to change one letter in surname where the credit check comes back no identity where tell them that alias do not qualify for rental units. Oh I lost my birth certificate where go down to government to get one where without a social insurance number then it not possible to run a credit check.

References (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2022 8:12 AM

Robert ON excuse me but I'm not following your post here. I'm interested in the thought process but you lost me. Can you please explain in detail what your accomplishing. (I'm getting older and not that sharp pencil in the box any more -- in many ways) --108.239.xx.xx

References (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2022 12:19 PM


References (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2022 6:22 PM

I find people looking for rental units use the same tricks all the time where carefully screened them out. One with a credit score in the low four hundreds said landlords should not be allowed to run credit checks. I was in London where visited a few places that were not listed on rental application. One told me he had a problom with alcohol. A lot of newer rental housing providers are not aware of the common tricks people play. One came around to apartment building where filled out rental application where he gave a address of house by the lake. Drove by the house then in the front lawm there could easily be $60 dollars refund in beer bottles and beer cants where did not bother with a credit check. One asked over phone if I belonged to a landlords association where I replied yes then he never showed up. Another wanted all inclusive where no way. Here it is really difficult to evict for non payment of rent where one has carefully screen them out. Once 900 credit score and above the problem tenants were screened out along with problems and damages as well. In hostile enviroment rent arrears can really cause problems along with the damages done. I hope that other rental housing providers screen out the problem tenants then they for the community housing authority rental units. I have photos of completely trashed rental units. One tenant ask for a apartment below which was excellent condition where I told $900 dollars where he refused the rentlal unit he lived in was completely trashed out where was not going to have two completely trashed out rentsl units. He call me a slumlord where once slum tenants are gone then no more slum rental units. In the ad willl provide rental applications for all adults then do not have waste time with them where they never show up. They claim discrimination under human rights tribunal where told they fix the negative credit reports then reapply where they thousands in rent arrears. Housing is a not right to trash out along with cause problems in the rental complex like illegal drugs and so on. It is better leave vacant for few months then let them in.

References (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Nov 20, 2022 9:44 PM

I remember when I took apartment buildings were someone came around then told he lived before where he knew the former owner. I made a long distance call to Florida where the owner told me do not go near him. He called back a week later where I told he can pick up a rental application then suddenly he blew up over the phone then told me about small landlords and big landlords where the phone call was well worthwhile. Now that vacancy rates here are really low a lot of problem tenants can not continue to play the no rent trash out rental unit game. Before running a credit check I carefully check out all the information on the rental application where find if the place of employment is real or some made up game. I call the references asking if they have any apartments or houses for rent that screens out references. I make sure that the identity is checked if they refuse to provide a social insurance number. If can not provide birth certificate, drivers license, passport if they have one along with some bills they have then it ends right there. There are one out three odds of getting a problem tenant where over time was able to completely screen them out. What happens a rental housing providers hands out keys then suddenly friends get keys then everything goes downhill from there.

References (by Tim [CA]) Posted on: Nov 22, 2022 3:30 PM

some of these posts are nothing more than word salads --108.201.xx.xx

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