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Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Sep 13, 2022 10:34 AM
       Property Boundary Line (by DJ [VA]) Sep 13, 2022 11:03 AM
       Property Boundary Line (by Steve [MA]) Sep 13, 2022 11:04 AM
       Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Sep 13, 2022 11:07 AM
       Property Boundary Line (by Richard [MI]) Sep 13, 2022 11:45 AM
       Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Sep 13, 2022 11:58 AM
       Property Boundary Line (by Allym [NJ]) Sep 13, 2022 1:13 PM
       Property Boundary Line (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Sep 13, 2022 1:42 PM
       Property Boundary Line (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 13, 2022 2:06 PM
       Property Boundary Line (by Robert J [CA]) Sep 13, 2022 2:06 PM
       Property Boundary Line (by Scott [IN]) Sep 13, 2022 2:18 PM
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       Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Sep 13, 2022 6:05 PM
       Property Boundary Line (by Ken [NY]) Sep 13, 2022 6:25 PM
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       Property Boundary Line (by gevans [SC]) Sep 13, 2022 7:02 PM
       Property Boundary Line (by RTR [AL]) Sep 13, 2022 7:28 PM
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       Property Boundary Line (by Amy [FL]) Sep 13, 2022 10:56 PM
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       Property Boundary Line (by Pmh [TX]) Sep 16, 2022 4:34 PM
       Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Sep 18, 2022 6:12 PM
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Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 10:34 AM
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I have a dispute with my neighbor. No matter how many times I have explained to him about the boundary line, he still comes to my yard and mows the grass.

Earlier I ignored because he was 1 or 2 feet inside, but lately I saw him getting into 5 to 8 feet inside my lawn. When I objected, he claimed that it is his land.

I went to county and got the papers but they are not good enough to pinpoint boundary line. One can still misinterpret that chart 4 to 5 feet either way.

The situation became ugly and I had to call Police every time he entered the property. This has happened at least 5 times and he showed little improvements. Now he is not 8 feet inside but around 2 feet on my property.

I was told that there could be iron pin somewhere buried that shows the boundary but I may have to buy or rent a metal detector.

Another suggestion that was done by Police is to get property survey done. However, it is expensive. Police have told the neighbor the same thing but he is not willing to do that either.

Once I am sure about the boundary line, I will put some demarcation.

Does anyone have any suggestion?

--99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 11:03 AM
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Hmmmm... are you worried he's trying to take over your property by adverse possession?

How large are these lots? Are the lawns maintained to different standard?

I can't figure out the motivation for the problem.

At any rate, it's a shame to not have an amiable relationship with a neighbor.

If you truly need to determine where the legal boundary is, you must get a survey. That's simple.

It's the personal boundaries and apparent inability to communicate and cooperate that may be more difficult (and important) to work out. --68.229.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 11:04 AM
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IMO unless you get an actual instrument survey done, have pins placed & put them on written notice to not trespass this will keep happening. --71.184.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 11:07 AM
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I have no problem for him to mow my part of lawn. The problem is, he thinks that it is still his property. He is not in a position to understand no matter how many times I have explained to him and he did not even understand who were trying to tell him the obvious and apparent boundary line, though not carved or delineated. --99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 11:45 AM
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I get this problem occasionally.

These people are either stupid, entitled or jut bullies.

Here's what I do--I get some of those cheap green steel posts (about $5 each and some 3 foot wire fencing, used if possible. Then I drive the posts in about 2 feet on their side of where I think the line is and put the wire on it. Of course, this gets a response. Then if they dispute where the line is, I tell them to get a survey and prove it (at theirr own expense) If they bother to do that , then they know where the line is and they show me. Then I will pull up the stakes and wire and put them on the line. And leave them there for a while. If they complain,so what. Tell them to build themselves a fence (at their own expense). If they pull the stakes out, drive them back in. They will call the cops and then you tell the cops that they have a survey and know where the line is and you want a no trespass order on them.

This is what happens when people can't be reasonable. They want to take advantage of you, you either allow it or you don't. --24.180.xx.xx




Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 11:58 AM
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Yes Richard. You got that right; that is the problem.

If I do not exercise my rights then it is construed that I am giving up those.

The problem is, what if I put the stakes/posts about 1 foot on their part of property and they come back and sue me? --99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Allym [NJ]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 1:13 PM
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I got a survey of one line because the neighbor is a bad guy and I never knew what he would do next. I had a landscaping service sink some railroad ties along the line and had a fence put up three feet back of that. The couple hundred bucks the survey will cost,and have them put wood stakes in and get the landscape guy right away before he steals them, will pay for itself. I have a neighbor who is a bad guy and he was cutting on one side of the driveway on the grass strip along the road, putting poison down also and getting all that blown into my driveway when he cut his grass. One day he blew my grass from that piece, all the way up to the front door which is a nasty problem as it gets tracked in. I had that one to court for stealing my survey stakes I had placed since he was trying to build a fence on my property and aiming to have MY tree cut down. I took him to court for stealing those stakes. I would suggest you pay what it takes to get the property line demarcated with railroad ties or something just as strong before he decides to claim that section and fence it in. --71.188.xx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 1:42 PM
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Can the two of you agree to disagree and agree to split the $1,000 to $1,500 survey cost? Without the completed survey, the two of you will just continue to get upset with one another.

If this isn't that big of an issue, then it is only a matter of them mowing your lawn. If your neighbor wants to mow my lawn, I am alright with it - then again it is just under 3 acres of grass.

A property line seems a bit petty when you factor in the cost of getting an official resolution. I personally wouldn't get one done unless either one of you would be building next to the property line, but hey its only money and you can always make more --24.101.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 2:06 PM
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You try to speak with your neighbor and come to terms. If you can't, they offer to split a survey. They never will spend a dime on a survey. So then you spend the money, around $1,000 and have a licensed survey company set down markets (that can't be removed under the law). They you send a letter to the neighbor they keep on trespassing on your property and damage your lawn. They need to stop and pay for half of the survey.

I'd set up cameras. Then file for a restraining order. Then I'd sue them in small claims court for your costs. If that doesn't stop them, nothing will.

--47.156.xx.xx




Property Boundary Line (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 2:06 PM
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You try to speak with your neighbor and come to terms. If you can't, they offer to split a survey. They never will spend a dime on a survey. So then you spend the money, around $1,000 and have a licensed survey company set down markets (that can't be removed under the law). They you send a letter to the neighbor they keep on trespassing on your property and damage your lawn. They need to stop and pay for half of the survey.

I'd set up cameras. Then file for a restraining order. Then I'd sue them in small claims court for your costs. If that doesn't stop them, nothing will.

--47.156.xx.xx




Property Boundary Line (by Scott [IN]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 2:18 PM
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Your neighbor hasn't done anything yet that would warrant wasting my time on a protracted argument. I would be concerned that he is setting up adverse possession. If you give him written permission (with proof of delivery) to mow and maintain the strip of property that you own and he covets, you will quash any hope he has to legally take it from you. Aside from that, I wouldn't worry until he tries to put something or build something on your side of the line. --107.141.xx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by LTD [AZ]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 4:57 PM
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I like what Robert said. If you have a known good pin, not an old hunk of rebar someone pounded in 30 yrs ago, you can run a tape and figure out your property line. Better if you have pins on both sides.

If you can talk to the neighbor see if he's willing to work with you on it together. One hold the tape, one roll it out. And hopefully abide by the result. Otherwise follow Robert's advice.

An accurate survey is a bonus when you resell. I did a four lot project last year and had everything surveyed to be certain we didn't mess up and have major issues after construction. It didn't tell me anything new, but I had documentation that buyers appreciated. --47.216.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by LTD [AZ]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 4:58 PM
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Or offer him ten bucks to mow the rest of your lawn too. ;)

- --47.216.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 6:05 PM
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Thanks everyone.

Mowing the lawn is not a big deal but having that grass and weed seeds to come to my area is also the problem. So I cannot allow him to come to my lawn and have those seeds spread and germinate again. I do weed control and have gotten most of the weeds under control.

Again, the bigger problem is, he thinks that it HIS land.

When I moved in 25 years ago, there were wooden sticks with pink ribbon on it. In a year or two, they were gone. I am going by that line but unfortunately did not take pictures or now have any proof.

Can I go by rebar that is buried in the ground? Will that be considered as demarcation line? I need to buy or rent a Metal Detector. Has anyone been successful? If we cannot go by that rebar, why do we have them? That is what the surveyor will do too. Else, I have the maps from county and that do not tell fine delineation.

My neighbor does not want to spend a dime on survey. Currently, I let the problem sit and wait for him to come to mow the lawn. At that time, I go out and take pictures at the same time call Police to intervene as he gets aggressive.

Can I spend money on survey then sue him for cutting aka damaging my lawn? --99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 6:25 PM
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I doubt cutting your lawn would be considered damaging it.I have never had a neighbor i couldnt get along with.I would just let him mow 5 feet of my lawn.If he ever wants to build he will have to get a survey at his expense.What is the problem with him mowing and seeds getting on your property?Sounds like you spend money on weed control and he doesnt?I grew up on a small farm and my parents are still there,dont know exactly where the property lines are but get along with the neighbors very well and fences go up close enough noone complains,if a tree falls in the woods near a line whoever gets it seems to work for us. --74.77.xx.xx




Property Boundary Line (by RB [TN]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 6:28 PM
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Have someone with metal detector experience

take a crack at it.

The odds are,

metal pins are there, ya just gotta find'em. --24.183.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 7:02 PM
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I have one neighbor who says the property line is about 10 feet over from where it really is. I've never cared enough to get a survey...and of course neither has he. I've owned that lot since 98. I'll probably still own it when I die. If he's still alive, the new owner can get a survey. It's just not a big enough deal to me to take any part of my life. --158.115.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by RTR [AL]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 7:28 PM
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I wish my neighbor would cut 6 ft of my yard why are you so angry over 6 ft of grass. --99.111.xx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 7:54 PM
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Find out the rules for domain. And figure out how much time you have to actually stop and interfere with his plan to get your land... ? At least you get some free mowing but you really don't want this cause you are treating the area. So find some kids with a metal detector and pay them $50 to look for the steaks. Otherwise I like the fence idea! That's a good one. --172.56.xx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by LTD [AZ]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 8:12 PM
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Uhm, this is kind of a novel idea, but after much reflection ;) it just came to me this evening.

What would happen if YOU mowed your lawn BEFORE he does? Then he'd have nothing to mow. Problem solved. --47.216.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 8:17 PM
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"The problem is, he thinks that it is still his property."

The problem with MY neighbor is that she thinks that taxing productive members of society and giving it to unproductive ones will solve all the world's problems.

So...he thinks it's his property. Therefore he mows it and scatters some weed seeds on your perfect lawn, which you treat with weed killer anyway. Is there any other real world consequence from his faulty thinking, or is that it? If that's it, send a letter (and a copy to yourself which you throw in a file unopened) giving him permission to do it. That protects you from adverse possession. Otherwise, I'd sit back and enjoy the free labor. --104.230.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 10:00 PM
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I was of same opinion as most of you have stated. He has been neighbor for 18 years and we never had an issue because occasionally, he would mow the grass only a feet over to my area. I let him cut that and never bothered.

Now he started getting 8 feet inside. I tried to explain him many times about weeds and my boundary line but the problem started when he told me that it is HIS property.

I am worried about his aggressiveness and attitude than willingness to understand my side of story. I would not be surprised if I see a fence over there.

My questions now are more technical. Why do we have those rebars buried 6 inches below ground if that cannot be used as boundary line? Good Metal Detectors do not cost more than $200 and it takes seconds to locate them.

How does the surveyor would know a property line if County map does not show a clear delineation? --99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by pete [OR]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 10:20 PM
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I had that situation where we had a dispute over where the line was. I said I will get it surveyed and he got angry and said he would get a lawyer. So, I thought, why stir things up its been this way for years. When I came back a few months later he had put up a fence on my property. I then called a surveyor, made him remove the fence back on his side. He was still mad at me. Ya gotta have boundaries. --35.132.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Mike SWMO [MO]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 10:39 PM
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Alex -- Have you actually read your state’s adverse possession (AP) laws. Sounds like you have not read them.

Missouri has 5 criteria that someone must pass in order to claim AP. Actual possession, Hostile (careful with this one), Open and notorious, Exclusive, Continuous

When I get where I think someone is going to try AP I just do something to stop a couple of the requirements.

One being exclusive use of the property. So I write a letter to someone and give them permission to use the land. Keep a record when your ringer uses the land then your neighbor would have to start all over.

Missouri AP used to be 20 years but the extremely intelligent lawmakers (grin) in the state have lowered it to 10 years.

Go forth and learn your rules.

--98.17.xxx.xx




Property Boundary Line (by Amy [FL]) Posted on: Sep 13, 2022 10:56 PM
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Go buy a detector and find your steel markers. Then clean up the detector and return it to store. No loss for you and you gained your lawn back. Treasure net.com

This is a good site for watching people find all kinds of stuff.

--99.120.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 7:32 AM
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Most places near me the pins are at the rear property lines and have a strong cover with the civil engineer license on the cap or a metal tag on the correct pin, using a spade push in diagonally to learn of the pin location. From your county recorder office learn who does this local, ask if they have any records on file - you may get lucky and only purchase copies - get a price and offer to split this with neighbor before your lose the soil. --76.190.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by FloridaNative [FL]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 7:57 AM
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Alex, you said when you moved in 25 years ago that there were wooden stakes with flags on the property. That means you have a survey already. You would have a copy of it in your closing package from the time you purchased the property. If you can't find it, then contact the title co that closed your purchase and they would, most likely, have a copy. I am assuming you haven't changed anything with the boundary's in the last 25 years.

If you can't find your copy and the title co doesn't have a copy (unlikely) then check with your building department. Ours keeps a copy of the survey's and permits and building plans digitally stored and to get a copy is nominal (just a copy fee). I get copies of surveys and building plans for all kinds of properties as part of my due diligence. You don't have to own the property to get a copy but in your case you already do own it. --73.205.xxx.xx




Property Boundary Line (by Arron [NY]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 4:10 PM
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"Go buy a detector and find your steel markers. Then clean up the detector and return it to store. "

Amy are you kidding? How dishonest do you want to be?! OMG, they are cheap enough to rent without being a thief.Yes I say a thief. I won't even try to explain it to you why.

And weeds? You say you treat them? So how much do you pay for that in a year?

I had probably the best lawn for over 20 years in my small city. I did it all,.. weed killer, watering, had a service that does fertilizer and mowed and raked on a regular basis, and replanted if necessary, people used to,, how perfect my lawn was. Yeah I took a lot of pride in that. Then one day it occurred to me how stupid this was. I stopped putting the poisons on my lawn and it is no longer the most beautiful lawn in my area.

I don't care if kids cross over my lawn or even upset if an occasional dog uses it,.I'm very happy with this choice. I have a lot of pride with many other things that are much more important than a lawn. I've saved the money and added it to gift it to certain charities.

As far as that amount of area,..what can he really do with it? Unless he tries to put up a building, on the property line (couldn't be done here anyway,.or a fence,.I wouldn't worry about it. Adverse possession on this particular situation would be very hard for him to ever prove,..how could he prove how much he (or you ) mowed how much of the lawn.

How old is he? Chances are he will pass on before anything is ever done. If he is too cheap to pay half for a survey, I can't imagine he spends much money on many things, including using that area and gambling that anything built would have to be removed. --37.19.xxx.xx




Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 4:37 PM
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Thanks everyone.

Thank you Amy, I will rent the Metal Detector.

Thank you Vee and FloridaNative. --99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 4:37 PM
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Thanks everyone.

Thank you Amy, I will rent the Metal Detector.

Thank you Vee and FloridaNative. --99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 4:37 PM
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Thanks everyone.

Thank you Amy, I will rent the Metal Detector.

Thank you Vee and FloridaNative. --99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 4:37 PM
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Thanks everyone.

Thank you Amy, I will rent the Metal Detector.

Thank you Vee and FloridaNative. --99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Lynn [MA]) Posted on: Sep 14, 2022 11:21 PM
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I have a multi where I was encroached on 3 sides. I had a crazy neighbor and in the end I put up a 6 ft chain link fence along the foundation of his house after the instrument survey. They ended up selling last year so that was a plus. The neighbor on the other 2 sides are encroaching and once I resolve an unrelated lawsuit, I plan to install more galvanized chain link fence and take legal action if need be. --72.93.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2022 12:59 PM
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How much does a survey cost for quarter acre lot (dispute is only on one boundary line with adjacent neighbor)?

Can iron pin's demarcation be taken as good as a survey ? If not, what is the purpose of those iron pins (rebar) buried 6 inches below ground on edges of property line? --99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2022 4:26 PM
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Same here. My neighbor has a 3 acre lot that takes a SW corner out of my 70 acre farm and in 2010 when a massive oak tree on his land by about 10 feet fell over, he never offered to help clean it up He is now mowing 15 to 20 feet into my land along both east and south borders. I told my farmhand to re-mow over him. I was thinking of a survey followed by a row of arbor vitae. --216.23.xxx.xx




Property Boundary Line (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Sep 15, 2022 5:08 PM
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Same here. My neighbor has a 3 acre lot that takes a SW corner out of my 70 acre farm and in 2010 when a massive oak tree on his land by about 10 feet fell over, he never offered to help clean it up He is now mowing 15 to 20 feet into my land along both east and south borders. I told my farmhand to re-mow over him. I was thinking of a survey followed by a row of arbor vitae. --216.23.xxx.xx




Property Boundary Line (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Sep 16, 2022 4:34 PM
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Arron is on point. dishonest. and we have several LL here disparaging renters for being dishonest…to op: you must pay the +/- 500for a survey and have pins marked. not sure why you don’t have survey from when you bought. --166.196.xx.xx




Property Boundary Line (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2022 6:12 PM
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Pmh, TX

Thank you for your reply. Yes, that is the point, if I locate the PINS, would I still need a survey? --99.98.xxx.xxx




Property Boundary Line (by Phil [OR]) Posted on: Sep 24, 2022 6:15 PM
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My father was a professional land surveyor. The wooden stakes that were in the ground when you bought the property may mean NOTHING. Realtors will often put those wooden stakes in the ground where they "think" the corners are at. If you are lucky, it can give you a good starting point to start looking.

If you locate the pins- no need for a survey. Used to be that rebar, or galvanized pipe was used for pins....now they require a cap with notice of who placed it.

I had my property surveyed after I bought it. those wooden stakes were off by over 10 feet on one corner.

Pay to get it surveyed. --76.138.xxx.xxx



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